Topic: I never realized till now
mysticalview21's photo
Sat 01/03/15 10:35 AM
Edited by mysticalview21 on Sat 01/03/15 10:42 AM
after I watched this program about world population ... how in countries it is dealt with ... some do have a limit of children you can have ... apposed to others where they feel have as many as possible and not think about what it does to the children ...
some starve and die or get deadly diseases ...
and mainly is the girls and women ...

because so many girls and women become and do the most work in the families and most do with out food and education to give their children to try help them survive ... some understand this over population but afraid to ask for birth control becouse of their husbend would beat and kill them in some cases ...not all ... and most that have abortions sometimes becouse of rape...die and loose their own lives becouse of unsanitary and unhealthy conditions ...

but this is just a part of the over population in the world ...
and what this means is more places should have education for women and girls ... and some being able to choose when to have a child ... an given birth control ... their is no blame all of the world contributes to this ... with as many children they have ... but what some do not understand is how poor the country can become

becouse of...and more then less suffer becouse of ...
and this is not getting any better some are trying to help try and educate those but as they say 1 at a time ... watch ... while others die ... we need more then 1 to survive to educate others of this suffering ...

this is the same why the USA has less becouse to many go with out education and do not understand the larger picture is the world ... which this is happening to also ... The USA is and has been helping other countries for a long time ...

but how do others expect if our country needs help... how are we able to give to other countries when their population have gotten out of control like the USA ... means the future need to have education grow not the population ... all around the world for everyone who are able ... do not take this wrong it is not that


I don't want people to have children ...just know at some point their may not be anyone to help each other but your own... an will be worse then ever if some do not get this education on how our world is going to suffer way more then now ...if you can believe that ... and education should start more while growing in younger minds ...


Dodo_David's photo
Sat 01/03/15 10:41 AM

I don't want people to have children ...just know at some point their may not be anyone to help each other but your own... an will be worse then ever if some do not get this education on how our world is going to suffer way more then now ...if you can believe that ... and education should start more for growing minds ...


huh And this was written by someone's parent. noway

msharmony's photo
Sat 01/03/15 10:52 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 01/03/15 10:53 AM
education is prime, education about how our resources (money)work and grow, about how to take care of ourselves (healthwise), about the importance of the family, the community, and the long term effects of our choices instead of the immediate gratification we have become addicted to,,,,

overpopulation is more subject to geography and resources

in the US we have more than enough of the resources(money) to be worried about overpopulation HERE, however the way our resources are doled out is another matter

birth rates are actually declining here over the last decades, but opportunities have declined and communities have become more individual oriented,,,,


I worry more about human detachment from each other than I do overpopulation,,,but ,, I'm just one person

there are many opinions on the topic of overpopulation, here is an interesting one out of millions

http://pop.org/content/debunking-myth-overpopulation

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Sat 01/03/15 11:26 AM

after I watched this program about world population ... how in countries it is dealt with ... some do have a limit of children you can have ... apposed to others where they feel have as many as possible and not think about what it does to the children ...
some starve and die or get deadly diseases ...
and mainly is the girls and women ...

because so many girls and women become and do the most work in the families and most do with out food and education to give their children to try help them survive ... some understand this over population but afraid to ask for birth control becouse of their husbend would beat and kill them in some cases ...not all ... and most that have abortions sometimes becouse of rape...die and loose their own lives becouse of unsanitary and unhealthy conditions ...

but this is just a part of the over population in the world ...
and what this means is more places should have education for women and girls ... and some being able to choose when to have a child ... an given birth control ... their is no blame all of the world contributes to this ... with as many children they have ... but what some do not understand is how poor the country can become

becouse of...and more then less suffer becouse of ...
and this is not getting any better some are trying to help try and educate those but as they say 1 at a time ... watch ... while others die ... we need more then 1 to survive to educate others of this suffering ...

this is the same why the USA has less becouse to many go with out education and do not understand the larger picture is the world ... which this is happening to also ... The USA is and has been helping other countries for a long time ...

but how do others expect if our country needs help... how are we able to give to other countries when their population have gotten out of control like the USA ... means the future need to have education grow not the population ... all around the world for everyone who are able ... do not take this wrong it is not that


I don't want people to have children ...just know at some point their may not be anyone to help each other but your own... an will be worse then ever if some do not get this education on how our world is going to suffer way more then now ...if you can believe that ... and education should start more while growing in younger minds ...


Don't know what the problem is, this matter is self educating and self solving. What you seem to have a problem with is the solution in action, the problem resolving itself. Nature always rules in the end.

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Sat 01/03/15 11:27 AM


I don't want people to have children ...just know at some point their may not be anyone to help each other but your own... an will be worse then ever if some do not get this education on how our world is going to suffer way more then now ...if you can believe that ... and education should start more for growing minds ...


huh And this was written by someone's parent. noway


Too bad other parents didn't read it.

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Sat 01/03/15 12:05 PM

education is prime, education about how our resources (money)work and grow, about how to take care of ourselves (healthwise), about the importance of the family, the community, and the long term effects of our choices instead of the immediate gratification we have become addicted to,,,,

overpopulation is more subject to geography and resources

in the US we have more than enough of the resources(money) to be worried about overpopulation HERE, however the way our resources are doled out is another matter

birth rates are actually declining here over the last decades, but opportunities have declined and communities have become more individual oriented,,,,


I worry more about human detachment from each other than I do overpopulation,,,but ,, I'm just one person

there are many opinions on the topic of overpopulation, here is an interesting one out of millions

http://pop.org/content/debunking-myth-overpopulation


Education, what education? But more importantly, just how is money a resource or actually, what is money? Is it something live that can work? What does it do? And if it grows, how big does it get? Can I plant some in my garden or does it need a pen? What do you feed it? But I do like how you include the collective, wouldn't want any selfishness.

I would love to hear your version of how geography and/or resources have anything to do with overpopulation. Is this another little quaint statement with no thought into the actual meaning? What is the cause? Which is the effect? Are they related?

Ah, back to money, again just how is that a resource? Just how are the resources doled out?

Oh no, are there anti-collectivist at work here? Where are they? Are they surrounding the welfare offices?

But I am most impressed by your UN sourced citation. Agenda 21 anyone?

msharmony's photo
Sat 01/03/15 12:18 PM
search on forbes for keywords 'money grow'

and you will have several answers from people that are 'educated' ,, although their source will most likely not be good enough for the constant antagonist,,,

Webster says a resource is

1

a : a source of supply or support : an available means —usually used in plural


ID say we do support ourselves through the primary RESOURCE of money which is bartered for our NATURAL and MANUFACTURED wants and needs



Webster defines grow as

to become larger : to increase in size, amount, etc

in the money market people invest regularly to increase the AMOUNT Of money they have,,,



as to the rest


there are many opinions on the topic of overpopulation

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Sat 01/03/15 12:38 PM

search on forbes for keywords 'money grow'

and you will have several answers from people that are 'educated' ,, although their source will most likely not be good enough for the constant antagonist,,,

Webster says a resource is

1

a : a source of supply or support : an available means —usually used in plural


ID say we do support ourselves through the primary RESOURCE of money which is bartered for our NATURAL and MANUFACTURED wants and needs



Webster defines grow as

to become larger : to increase in size, amount, etc

in the money market people invest regularly to increase the AMOUNT Of money they have,,,



as to the rest


there are many opinions on the topic of overpopulation



So in other words, you haven't a clue. Just another series of statements without knowledge of how they relate nor how they go together.

A series of suppositions without a clue as to the understandings of causation and effects. And opinions little interest me as they mean nothing without understanding the metaphysics, epistemology and in this case ethics.

But what does become especially clear is a response in the truest form of Plato and that Aristotle is truly dead. What is even clearer is the division of the metaphysical between us.

mysticalview21's photo
Tue 01/06/15 09:05 AM
Edited by mysticalview21 on Tue 01/06/15 09:07 AM
I did not mean I thought others should not have children... it is possibly how many ... other country are fighting this becouse they have no other means to birth control ... and they want it ...becouse mothers realize some of their children will die becouse of undernourishment ... example... when younger I thought I could not have any children becouse of my illness so I dragged my x to a specialist with me ... becouse i wanted a child ... well the specialist said he could not guarantee that once implanted ...I would have more then one child and some may die and some may be ill and you will have to care for them with machines they might have to be on and have back up ones also... so right then I said maybe this was not meant to be ...

I could not bring a suffering children in this world like that...to live a suffering life to only die later ... well that in a since is something other women around the world are going through they have children but not healthy children becouse of to many children to care for and conditions they live in... when their own county does not do very much for them and has charities to have to help them ...

an as young women they try and get education so they can have a healthy family ... this is what most have been working on around the world ... trying to get the schools to educate children to have a better life for them selves and family but this of course does not come with out resistances for change ... and of course it is all about the $ to ... but they let their people live with famine and no water ... but we struggle as a country to help them...

I know it will continue... and some help as it is ... but they said with education population will be less and others will have a chance of a better life around the world and here ...

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Tue 01/06/15 09:53 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Tue 01/06/15 09:54 AM

Ted Turner has made many speeches and appearances addressing the matter.

His solution? Genocide! It would seem that most governments concur......

Therein is the world of today

mysticalview21's photo
Tue 01/06/15 07:37 PM


Ted Turner has made many speeches and appearances addressing the matter.

His solution? Genocide! It would seem that most governments concur......

Therein is the world of today



really ... I know he can be maybe a ruthless business man ...
but find it hard to believe he would be that cold ... and say that ... any thing to back it up ...


slow deaths is all that seem to be happening now ...