Topic: REAL MEN
dreamerana's photo
Mon 03/30/15 10:47 AM
real men and gentlemen do exist.
it simply takes paying attention.

I've worked with young men who were making wrong choices and getting in trouble for a variety of reasons.
even my toughest guy had a gentleman inside him.
I'm afraid of heights and we were walking down a steep 3 level stairwell.
this guy who was the toughest kid on campus asked Miss teacher do you want me to hold your hand. I'm here if you need me.

(by the way, through help, support and counseling he grew up to be a responsible decent man.)

the point is there are good people if you pay attention and don't pre judge.

it's not fair to lump all men together for the idiocy of the one with whom we made a mistake.

JLaDawn's photo
Mon 03/30/15 10:50 AM


Real men and women exist....what the hell, it ain't like we are made of plastic. "Real" men and women are exactly that REAL. That means they make real mistakes and have real feelings and are in the same boat as all the other "real" people....trying to find their way in this real life the best way they know how. Some are just real good at it and some are real bad at it. drinks


This is part of what I've been trying to say this whole time! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: drinks flowers
drinker

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Mon 03/30/15 10:53 AM






I don't bash men, I am critical of their behavior, as one should be, in practice they cause much harm in the world. It is upsetting that this is all swept under the carpet and anyone who points it out is called names. I think more women AND men should take this matter seriously like I do. I am not the problem. Those in denial are.


Again, blaming MEN for all the problems in the world. You are quick to point out sexism by men, yet you practice sexism.


This is more denial.
Do you need a history book to read about sexism against women by men? Men invented sexism. I only point it out, I'm not sexist.


You realize you're the only one who believes you're not a misandrist, right? whoa

I don't agree with everything, but I've actually seen her come up with some very good points.

What I find peculiar: Your comments on women in this thread are very biased, negative and not respectful, yet no one picks up on that?? It (still) seems normal and generally accepted to knock women, yet if someone does the same towards men, the chit hits the fan.
Two wrongs don't make a right, you know.

And I do NOT agree with either attitude, but if one is wrong, the other is as well. That's equality for you

As long as no one gets that it's just as wrong to knock women as it is to knock men, and vice versa, this discussion will continue.
As long as one starts lashing when another is bashing, we won't get anywhere.

flowerforyou




So pointing out that women who ask the original question of this thread, which is nowhere near all women, generally have a predisposed notion of a "REAL" man, yet reject anyone who doesn't fit EVERYTHING on the checklist is sexist?


No that is not sexist.

I personally only have one thing on my checklist and that is so hard to find, the he genuinely loves me back as much as I love him. I have wondered for many years if men are capable of love as in fairytale love.. romantic love.. not just respect admiration or fondness.. but love. Why is Cinderella read to little girls, why isn't there a book for boys called Prince Charming? Why do women have to worry about this stuff and not men? It's so one sided from the beginning we have been brain washed by all this engrained sexism against women. Women were taught many lies.. to love and there will be a reward of the same in return. This is not true and men think we are holding them to a very high standard, more than they were ever taught. They feel so guilty that they become abusive jerks. This is what society makes of boys and girls and we are a product of society. So, who is wrong men or women? Probably both.

JLaDawn's photo
Mon 03/30/15 11:00 AM
Edited by JLaDawn on Mon 03/30/15 11:01 AM







I don't bash men, I am critical of their behavior, as one should be, in practice they cause much harm in the world. It is upsetting that this is all swept under the carpet and anyone who points it out is called names. I think more women AND men should take this matter seriously like I do. I am not the problem. Those in denial are.


Again, blaming MEN for all the problems in the world. You are quick to point out sexism by men, yet you practice sexism.


This is more denial.
Do you need a history book to read about sexism against women by men? Men invented sexism. I only point it out, I'm not sexist.


You realize you're the only one who believes you're not a misandrist, right? whoa

I don't agree with everything, but I've actually seen her come up with some very good points.

What I find peculiar: Your comments on women in this thread are very biased, negative and not respectful, yet no one picks up on that?? It (still) seems normal and generally accepted to knock women, yet if someone does the same towards men, the chit hits the fan.
Two wrongs don't make a right, you know.

And I do NOT agree with either attitude, but if one is wrong, the other is as well. That's equality for you

As long as no one gets that it's just as wrong to knock women as it is to knock men, and vice versa, this discussion will continue.
As long as one starts lashing when another is bashing, we won't get anywhere.

flowerforyou




So pointing out that women who ask the original question of this thread, which is nowhere near all women, generally have a predisposed notion of a "REAL" man, yet reject anyone who doesn't fit EVERYTHING on the checklist is sexist?


No that is not sexist.

I personally only have one thing on my checklist and that is so hard to find, the he genuinely loves me back as much as I love him. I have wondered for many years if men are capable of love as in fairytale love.. romantic love.. not just respect admiration or fondness.. but love. Why is Cinderella read to little girls, why isn't there a book for boys called Prince Charming? Why do women have to worry about this stuff and not men? It's so one sided from the beginning we have been brain washed by all this engrained sexism against women. Women were taught many lies.. to love and there will be a reward of the same in return. This is not true and men think we are holding them to a very high standard, more than they were ever taught. They feel so guilty that they become abusive jerks. This is what society makes of boys and girls and we are a product of society. So, who is wrong men or women? Probably both.
^^^^there is your difficulty right there....if you love someone you accept them...and that means accepting that sometimes he is a dbag...just like sometimes she is a biotch...you can't demand acceptance and not give it....that is not love.

mom333's photo
Mon 03/30/15 11:04 AM

Real men and women exist....what the hell, it ain't like we are made of plastic. "Real" men and women are exactly that REAL. That means they make real mistakes and have real feelings and are in the same boat as all the other "real" people....trying to find their way in this real life the best way they know how. Some are just real good at it and some are real bad at it. drinks
:banana:

mom333's photo
Mon 03/30/15 11:11 AM
Edited by mom333 on Mon 03/30/15 11:13 AM
there are loads of people on here looking for real love and that means the person you may get to know may not be perfect, some kooky, some with big histories. but do you know what I really hate about some of the men on here (im saying men but can be women too) you say stuff like women only want one thing, and if your nice to a woman she don't like it etc. well let me just say something I think I have a nice profile pic I mean I could have smiled but hey. now this gets men to the door so to speak but as soon as I say (because a lot don't actually read profiles) im a single mom they only ever think one thing themselves. and I can guarantee a lot of men on here have disregarded a woman because she didn't fir the requirements so to speak. the blame is on both sides men are as bad as the women they judge.

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Mon 03/30/15 11:11 AM
Edited by WonderWoman48 on Mon 03/30/15 11:14 AM


I have questions for men and I want them to be completely honest.
Do "real manly men" exist anymore?
Do real gentleman exist anymore?


I am a woman as you may be able to tell from my pic. Yet I will answer your question.
YES AND YES.
Where have you been to not meet real and gentlemen?
Maybe you need to change where you live?




I was thinking about moving to Texas.

I'm not sure anymore.laugh

dreamerana's photo
Mon 03/30/15 11:11 AM


I personally only have one thing on my checklist and that is so hard to find, the he genuinely loves me back as much as I love him. I have wondered for many years if men are capable of love as in fairytale love.. romantic love.. not just respect admiration or fondness.. but love. Why is Cinderella read to little girls, why isn't there a book for boys called Prince Charming? Why do women have to worry about this stuff and not men? It's so one sided from the beginning we have been brain washed by all this engrained sexism against women. Women were taught many lies.. to love and there will be a reward of the same in return. This is not true and men think we are holding them to a very high standard, more than they were ever taught. They feel so guilty that they become abusive jerks. This is what society makes of boys and girls and we are a product of society. So, who is wrong men or women? Probably both.


this is coming from someone who has also been hurt, abandoned (by my dad)
and then been victimized.
sometimes we need more in depth help (counseling) to be able to trust again.
we need to forgive, not for the person who hurt us, but in order to have peace within ourself.

yes, there is a possibility to find love after one has been hurt.
if you want to be loved fully, you have to be prepared to fully love in return. you have to know you have flaws and he will have flaws. and you mutually accept each other knowing neither one is perfect.
if you're like I was, afraid of men, it's ok to ask a man to take it slow.
it's ok to take your time and learn to trust.
a man who cares about will definitely do this.
it is possible to heal and find love again. flowerforyou

msharmony's photo
Mon 03/30/15 11:12 AM


Do "real manly men" exist anymore?
Do real gentleman exist anymore?


They do, but they are all looking for the womanly wimmins..drool


lol. nice answer

msharmony's photo
Mon 03/30/15 11:14 AM

Yet another topic to promote sexist or stereotyping of gender roles? Sure looks like it. Appears to be an acceptable topic.

Should I have waited for the misandry before I ask?




we often have cases where the thread title doesnt match the actual question

are there 'real men',, is a bit sexist, implying not all men are real


are there 'menly men' or 'gentlemen' is more of a description of a TYPE of man,, which is not sexist , except maybe in needing to question if they exist

isntead of WHERE are the menly men or gentlemen


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Mon 03/30/15 11:21 AM








I don't bash men, I am critical of their behavior, as one should be, in practice they cause much harm in the world. It is upsetting that this is all swept under the carpet and anyone who points it out is called names. I think more women AND men should take this matter seriously like I do. I am not the problem. Those in denial are.


Again, blaming MEN for all the problems in the world. You are quick to point out sexism by men, yet you practice sexism.


This is more denial.
Do you need a history book to read about sexism against women by men? Men invented sexism. I only point it out, I'm not sexist.


You realize you're the only one who believes you're not a misandrist, right? whoa

I don't agree with everything, but I've actually seen her come up with some very good points.

What I find peculiar: Your comments on women in this thread are very biased, negative and not respectful, yet no one picks up on that?? It (still) seems normal and generally accepted to knock women, yet if someone does the same towards men, the chit hits the fan.
Two wrongs don't make a right, you know.

And I do NOT agree with either attitude, but if one is wrong, the other is as well. That's equality for you

As long as no one gets that it's just as wrong to knock women as it is to knock men, and vice versa, this discussion will continue.
As long as one starts lashing when another is bashing, we won't get anywhere.

flowerforyou




So pointing out that women who ask the original question of this thread, which is nowhere near all women, generally have a predisposed notion of a "REAL" man, yet reject anyone who doesn't fit EVERYTHING on the checklist is sexist?


No that is not sexist.

I personally only have one thing on my checklist and that is so hard to find, the he genuinely loves me back as much as I love him. I have wondered for many years if men are capable of love as in fairytale love.. romantic love.. not just respect admiration or fondness.. but love. Why is Cinderella read to little girls, why isn't there a book for boys called Prince Charming? Why do women have to worry about this stuff and not men? It's so one sided from the beginning we have been brain washed by all this engrained sexism against women. Women were taught many lies.. to love and there will be a reward of the same in return. This is not true and men think we are holding them to a very high standard, more than they were ever taught. They feel so guilty that they become abusive jerks. This is what society makes of boys and girls and we are a product of society. So, who is wrong men or women? Probably both.
^^^^there is your difficulty right there....if you love someone you accept them...and that means accepting that sometimes he is a dbag...just like sometimes she is a biotch...you can't demand acceptance and not give it....that is not love.


A man will have the utmost patience and care with a woman he loves, a dbag won't, that's not love...being treated like crap is not love. Accepting being treated like crap is not love, it's not even self love.

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Mon 03/30/15 11:26 AM



I have questions for men and I want them to be completely honest.
Do "real manly men" exist anymore?
Do real gentleman exist anymore?


I am a woman as you may be able to tell from my pic. Yet I will answer your question.
YES AND YES.
Where have you been to not meet real and gentlemen?
Maybe you need to change where you live?




I was thinking about moving to Texas.

I'm not sure anymore.laugh


:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:


JLaDawn's photo
Mon 03/30/15 11:27 AM









I don't bash men, I am critical of their behavior, as one should be, in practice they cause much harm in the world. It is upsetting that this is all swept under the carpet and anyone who points it out is called names. I think more women AND men should take this matter seriously like I do. I am not the problem. Those in denial are.


Again, blaming MEN for all the problems in the world. You are quick to point out sexism by men, yet you practice sexism.


This is more denial.
Do you need a history book to read about sexism against women by men? Men invented sexism. I only point it out, I'm not sexist.


You realize you're the only one who believes you're not a misandrist, right? whoa

I don't agree with everything, but I've actually seen her come up with some very good points.

What I find peculiar: Your comments on women in this thread are very biased, negative and not respectful, yet no one picks up on that?? It (still) seems normal and generally accepted to knock women, yet if someone does the same towards men, the chit hits the fan.
Two wrongs don't make a right, you know.

And I do NOT agree with either attitude, but if one is wrong, the other is as well. That's equality for you

As long as no one gets that it's just as wrong to knock women as it is to knock men, and vice versa, this discussion will continue.
As long as one starts lashing when another is bashing, we won't get anywhere.

flowerforyou




So pointing out that women who ask the original question of this thread, which is nowhere near all women, generally have a predisposed notion of a "REAL" man, yet reject anyone who doesn't fit EVERYTHING on the checklist is sexist?


No that is not sexist.

I personally only have one thing on my checklist and that is so hard to find, the he genuinely loves me back as much as I love him. I have wondered for many years if men are capable of love as in fairytale love.. romantic love.. not just respect admiration or fondness.. but love. Why is Cinderella read to little girls, why isn't there a book for boys called Prince Charming? Why do women have to worry about this stuff and not men? It's so one sided from the beginning we have been brain washed by all this engrained sexism against women. Women were taught many lies.. to love and there will be a reward of the same in return. This is not true and men think we are holding them to a very high standard, more than they were ever taught. They feel so guilty that they become abusive jerks. This is what society makes of boys and girls and we are a product of society. So, who is wrong men or women? Probably both.
^^^^there is your difficulty right there....if you love someone you accept them...and that means accepting that sometimes he is a dbag...just like sometimes she is a biotch...you can't demand acceptance and not give it....that is not love.


A man will have the utmost patience and care with a woman he loves, a dbag won't, that's not love...being treated like crap is not love. Accepting being treated like crap is not love, it's not even self love.
A PERFECT man will....sure. but men ain't perfect. They are going to hurt your feelings. They are going to be careless. They are going to treat you like crap. Just like YOU are going to do all those things to him. Love is accepting that no one is perfect but that he/she is worthy of your love and striving to be worthy of theirs....to the best of our imperfect abilities. Impossible expectations ain't gonna get you anywhere but old, sad and lonely.

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Mon 03/30/15 11:32 AM
Edited by WonderWoman48 on Mon 03/30/15 11:33 AM




I have questions for men and I want them to be completely honest.
Do "real manly men" exist anymore?
Do real gentleman exist anymore?


I am a woman as you may be able to tell from my pic. Yet I will answer your question.
YES AND YES.
Where have you been to not meet real and gentlemen?
Maybe you need to change where you live?




I was thinking about moving to Texas.

I'm not sure anymore.laugh


:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:



Debbie flowerforyou

You know what I'm talking about! laugh

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Mon 03/30/15 11:34 AM
Edited by debbie1980 on Mon 03/30/15 11:35 AM





I have questions for men and I want them to be completely honest.
Do "real manly men" exist anymore?
Do real gentleman exist anymore?


I am a woman as you may be able to tell from my pic. Yet I will answer your question.
YES AND YES.
Where have you been to not meet real and gentlemen?
Maybe you need to change where you live?




I was thinking about moving to Texas.

I'm not sure anymore.laugh


:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:



Debbie flowerforyou



Wooohooooo, like, like, Ya know bigsmile drool drool bigsmile

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Mon 03/30/15 11:56 AM




I have questions for men and I want them to be completely honest.
Do "real manly men" exist anymore?
Do real gentleman exist anymore?


I am a woman as you may be able to tell from my pic. Yet I will answer your question.
YES AND YES.
Where have you been to not meet real and gentlemen?
Maybe you need to change where you live?




I was thinking about moving to Texas.

I'm not sure anymore.laugh


:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:



if any of you pretty little fillies would like to beautify texas with your presence, you have a friend in the alamocity who would be honored to show y'all around. i don't have a palomino, but your welcome to get your legs around the back of a harley. there are other things to love in texas besides the real men here

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Mon 03/30/15 12:05 PM





I have questions for men and I want them to be completely honest.
Do "real manly men" exist anymore?
Do real gentleman exist anymore?


I am a woman as you may be able to tell from my pic. Yet I will answer your question.
YES AND YES.
Where have you been to not meet real and gentlemen?
Maybe you need to change where you live?




I was thinking about moving to Texas.

I'm not sure anymore.laugh


:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:



if any of you pretty little fillies would like to beautify texas with your presence, you have a friend in the alamocity who would be honored to show y'all around. i don't have a palomino, but your welcome to get your legs around the back of a harley. there are other things to love in texas besides the real men here



bigsmile bigsmile

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Mon 03/30/15 12:31 PM
Pecan pie??? drool
Steak?? drool drool
I need to get to Texas!!!

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Mon 03/30/15 12:56 PM
I don't need a perfect man, but I also don't need a man to treat me like crap. If a man regularly treats me like crap, the first thing he can say goodbye to is sex, next is food, next is clean clothes...next I will be gone.

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Mon 03/30/15 01:02 PM

I don't need a perfect man, but I also don't need a man to treat me like crap. If a man regularly treats me like crap, the first thing he can say goodbye to is sex, next is food, next is clean clothes...next I will be gone.

i don't need a perfect woman, but i also don't need a woman to treat me like crap. if a woman regularly treats me like crap, the first thing she can say goodbye to is sex, next is food, next is clean clothes...next i will be gone

if you can see how horrible that sounds, then there is hope for you. if not, then cook for yourself, do your own laundry, get a bob with plenty of batteries, and enjoy your cats