Topic: A Born Again Christian Is A Prisoner.
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Sat 05/09/15 06:01 PM
2 Timothy 1:8 KJV

Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me His prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God;


Paul wrote to Timothy and also to us who are in the race that we should not be ashamed of the testimony of our LORD. And there is something in this 2 Timothy 1:8 we should meditate more of.
Here Paul by Faith, has surrendered all to the LORD, and he called himself "His prisoner" someone who has lost his right and owns not his life, not even taking his next step by his own decision, but by the lead of the Holy Spirit partaking of the afflictions of the gospel according to the Supernatural power of the Most High God.

In other words, we the followers of CHRIST (born again) are also "in prison" for our SAVIOUR and LORD JESUS CHRIST. We are not thieves, we are not murderers, no, we are peculiar treasure unto the LORD our GOD if we obey the voice of the LORD indeed (Genesis 19:5).
We must have this in our mind that anyone who must follow JESUS will deny himself, not after the things of this world, not minding the earthly things that'd add no value to the things of GOD and carrying his cross daily, and follow JESUS every day by day. We need the help of the Holy Spirit to be able to finish well and accomplish it.

MAY GOD BLESS AND HELP US ALL TO WORK WITH HIM AND FINISH STRONG IN THE NAME OF JESUS! AMEN..............!!!

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Sun 05/10/15 11:36 PM
Edited by SassyEuro2 on Sun 05/10/15 11:43 PM
PRISONER - Hebrew definition.
In brief. MISHMAR ( Mish-mawr )
(noun, masculine word) Original word SHAMAR

GUARD, watch, observance.

Biblehub.com/ hebrew

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Shalom



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Mon 05/11/15 12:00 AM
hi Toks waving

I don't know much about the bible, so I can't comment on the quotation itself.

rather just share some thoughts and questions.

if a person is dedicated to their faith, born again or not, doesn't that in turn set them free?

if it's all in God's name and in God's hands, does that not make our cares less and make our spirit more free because of not holding on to negativity?

if we are in God's light or path, don't we learn to forgive and to love one another?

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Mon 05/11/15 12:38 AM
Can I try to answer you?
You can always get Good when he is on line.
Or you can wait for him

Jesusmyall's photo
Mon 05/11/15 11:32 AM

2 Timothy 1:8 KJV

Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me His prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God;


Paul wrote to Timothy and also to us who are in the race that we should not be ashamed of the testimony of our LORD. And there is something in this 2 Timothy 1:8 we should meditate more of.
Here Paul by Faith, has surrendered all to the LORD, and he called himself "His prisoner" someone who has lost his right and owns not his life, not even taking his next step by his own decision, but by the lead of the Holy Spirit partaking of the afflictions of the gospel according to the Supernatural power of the Most High God.

In other words, we the followers of CHRIST (born again) are also "in prison" for our SAVIOUR and LORD JESUS CHRIST. We are not thieves, we are not murderers, no, we are peculiar treasure unto the LORD our GOD if we obey the voice of the LORD indeed (Genesis 19:5).
We must have this in our mind that anyone who must follow JESUS will deny himself, not after the things of this world, not minding the earthly things that'd add no value to the things of GOD and carrying his cross daily, and follow JESUS every day by day. We need the help of the Holy Spirit to be able to finish well and accomplish it.

MAY GOD BLESS AND HELP US ALL TO WORK WITH HIM AND FINISH STRONG IN THE NAME OF JESUS! AMEN..............!!!



Hey, Toks, have you read the book, "Finishing Strong"? It is a great book! Look for it in a Christian bookshop and read it - recommended.

Your post reminds me of a story I heard from a pastor;...about a believer in Jesus Christ who was slapped and some persons around him, urged him to return the slap. But he repeatedly said to them, "you don't understand...my hands have been tied...I cannot return the slap", because of Jesus!

And yes, many believers still serve prison terms today for their faith - just like Paul in his days. But we all pray for grace...that wherever we are...whatever the condition, we should NEVER deny CHRIST. Amen!!!

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Mon 05/11/15 04:52 PM

hi Toks waving

I don't know much about the bible, so I can't comment on the quotation itself.

rather just share some thoughts and questions.

if a person is dedicated to their faith, born again or not, doesn't that in turn set them free?

if it's all in God's name and in God's hands, does that not make our cares less and make our spirit more free because of not holding on to negativity?

if we are in God's light or path, don't we learn to forgive and to love one another?



It's been long dreamerana. :smile: waving
Above me are "3" reasonable questions, and am right here in the hot seat.haha...




(Question 1). If a person is dedicated to their faith, born again or not, doesn't that in turn set them free?

The knowledge of the truth of the Bible is the bedrock of my Christian faith.
John chapter number 3 verse number 1 to 7.
1. THERE was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
2. The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
3. Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5. Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. KJV

Acts 4:12 KJV
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. (Salvation could be found only in Jesus).

Faith should be based on the WORD OF GOD (The Holy Bible). Anyone who wants to be free must not joke with this.
*must be born again
*must repent of his or her sins and accept Jesus Christ as his or her personal LORD and SAVIOUR. Whoever JESUS has set free is free indeed.




(Question 2). If it's all in God's name and in God's hands, does that not make our cares less and make our spirit more free because of not holding on to negativity?

If it's all in God's name and in God's hands, it makes our cares less and we ought to be alive in the Spirit and be watchful all the time because "the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do things that ye would."(Galatians 5:17).
We don't have to relax while the devil is restless, as a roaring Lion, walking about, seeking whom he may devour: (1 Peter 5:8).





(Question 3). If we are in God's light or path, don't we learn to forgive and to love one another?

If we are in God's light or in God's path, we must learn to forgive and to love one another with the divine love of GOD.

Ephesians 4:32 KJV
And be ye kind one to another, tender-hearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

1 John 4:8 KJV
He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

1 John 4:21 KJV
And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.

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Toks88's photo
Mon 05/11/15 05:01 PM


2 Timothy 1:8 KJV

Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me His prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God;


Paul wrote to Timothy and also to us who are in the race that we should not be ashamed of the testimony of our LORD. And there is something in this 2 Timothy 1:8 we should meditate more of.
Here Paul by Faith, has surrendered all to the LORD, and he called himself "His prisoner" someone who has lost his right and owns not his life, not even taking his next step by his own decision, but by the lead of the Holy Spirit partaking of the afflictions of the gospel according to the Supernatural power of the Most High God.

In other words, we the followers of CHRIST (born again) are also "in prison" for our SAVIOUR and LORD JESUS CHRIST. We are not thieves, we are not murderers, no, we are peculiar treasure unto the LORD our GOD if we obey the voice of the LORD indeed (Genesis 19:5).
We must have this in our mind that anyone who must follow JESUS will deny himself, not after the things of this world, not minding the earthly things that'd add no value to the things of GOD and carrying his cross daily, and follow JESUS every day by day. We need the help of the Holy Spirit to be able to finish well and accomplish it.

MAY GOD BLESS AND HELP US ALL TO WORK WITH HIM AND FINISH STRONG IN THE NAME OF JESUS! AMEN..............!!!



Hey, Toks, have you read the book, "Finishing Strong"? It is a great book! Look for it in a Christian bookshop and read it - recommended.

Your post reminds me of a story I heard from a pastor;...about a believer in Jesus Christ who was slapped and some persons around him, urged him to return the slap. But he repeatedly said to them, "you don't understand...my hands have been tied...I cannot return the slap", because of Jesus!

And yes, many believers still serve prison terms today for their faith - just like Paul in his days. But we all pray for grace...that wherever we are...whatever the condition, we should NEVER deny CHRIST. Amen!!!



Hi Jesusmyall in all.haha... Nope, I have not red the book " Finishing Strong." I'd visit the bookshop soon and I must buy it. And I have already prepared a topic on that title "I WILL FINISH STRONG"
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