Topic: government likes dumb cops
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Tue 06/09/15 12:37 PM

US Police Do Not Hire Intelligent People: Ex-CIA Contractor
“They do require people that are incapable of logical compassionate thinking”



by Press TV | June 9, 2015
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The United States police departments do not employ relatively intelligent people so that they cannot act compassionately and logically when encountering criminals, says former CIA contractor Steven Kelley.

“There is a policy here in the United States that people of a relatively high IQ are not allowed to become police officers,” Kelley told Press TV on Tuesday.

“There is actually a test given to applicants and if they score too high they are not eligible to join law enforcement,” he said, adding “They do require people that are incapable of logical compassionate thinking.”

Kelley made the remarks when asked about a video, which was recently released showing a police officer handcuffing and physically holding down a black teenage girl at a pool party in Texas.

The video shows a white police officer in McKinney shouting and ordering some black teens to lie on the ground while telling others to disperse in a neighborhood pool on Friday.

Kelley said such incidents seem “to be a recurring issue that is certainly becoming a major problem here in the United States with the law enforcement seemingly choosing to persecute the minorities, the black people.”

“This is not just a geographical issue with the south because obviously this is happening in almost every state here in the United States,” he noted.

He went on to say that “within the current administration, (there is) the desire to try to spread as much dissent and trouble amongst the racists.”

“The militarization of the police here in the United States is also a big problem but ultimately I think what this really illustrates is the fact that this country has become the fascist.”

“The Obama administration is trying very hard to use this incidence to show that they need to federalize the police force which obviously would be incredibly bad,” he said.

In another incident, a video emerged showing disturbing images of US police officers beating a mentally-ill man with batons in Salinas, California.

The video shows Salinas police firing a Taser at the victim, repeatedly striking him with batons before handcuffing him on Friday.

Court OKs Barring High IQs for Cops



A man whose bid to become a police officer was rejected after he scored too high on an intelligence test has lost an appeal in his federal lawsuit against the city.

The 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New York upheld a lower court’s decision that the city did not discriminate against Robert Jordan because the same standards were applied to everyone who took the test.

“This kind of puts an official face on discrimination in America against people of a certain class,” Jordan said today from his Waterford home. “I maintain you have no more control over your basic intelligence than your eye color or your gender or anything else.”

He said he does not plan to take any further legal action.

Jordan, a 49-year-old college graduate, took the exam in 1996 and scored 33 points, the equivalent of an IQ of 125. But New London police interviewed only candidates who scored 20 to 27, on the theory that those who scored too high could get bored with police work and leave soon after undergoing costly training.

Most Cops Just Above Normal The average score nationally for police officers is 21 to 22, the equivalent of an IQ of 104, or just a little above average.

Jordan alleged his rejection from the police force was discrimination. He sued the city, saying his civil rights were violated because he was denied equal protection under the law.

But the U.S. District Court found that New London had “shown a rational basis for the policy.” In a ruling dated Aug. 23, the 2nd Circuit agreed. The court said the policy might be unwise but was a rational way to reduce job turnover.

Jordan has worked as a prison guard since he took the test.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836

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Tue 06/09/15 03:16 PM
Have you discussed this with any of the " dumb" cops in your town? Or is it just that you only have the balls to write about it on a web page, not actually face to face with those who you are calling stupid.

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Tue 06/09/15 04:51 PM

Have you discussed this with any of the " dumb" cops in your town? Or is it just that you only have the balls to write about it on a web page, not actually face to face with those who you are calling stupid.

its not my opinion, its a fact. the court ruled its ok to discriminate against cops who are above a certain intelligence level.and why dont you quit worrying about what i do, and worry about yourself. if your trying to imply that im too "afraid" to tell a cop i think hes stupid, how would you know? YOU DONT KNOW ME. you always come into my threads trying to act like a tuff guy. your a wanna be internet hard @$$ who thinks he's cool cause he can criticize me for posting something that is true. like i said its not my opinion, the court ruled its ok for departments to discriminate against cops for being too smart. why dont you quit trying to pick fights with me all the time and worry about yourself.

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Tue 06/09/15 05:44 PM
Hit a nerve Tomato?.. you don't expect some backlash when YOU classify a few 100,000 cops as dumb? Your words

And this is a forum.. which means that I have the right to state what I feel, you don't have to agree.. And I don't expect you to.

When I see you post something that I find to be offensive I will call you on it. There is nothing " tough guy" about that. That is the way I am. I call it as I see it. If I am going to call someone or a group of people stupid..I do it to their face.

As for "popping in" yes I do on occasion because I have a life to live, so I don't have the luxury of sitting at a computer monitoring a web site all day and night

I stand by my comment

see ya later.. I actually have to go to work ;)

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Tue 06/09/15 06:15 PM

Hit a nerve Tomato?.. you don't expect some backlash when YOU classify a few 100,000 cops as dumb? Your words

And this is a forum.. which means that I have the right to state what I feel, you don't have to agree.. And I don't expect you to.

When I see you post something that I find to be offensive I will call you on it. There is nothing " tough guy" about that. That is the way I am. I call it as I see it. If I am going to call someone or a group of people stupid..I do it to their face.

As for "popping in" yes I do on occasion because I have a life to live, so I don't have the luxury of sitting at a computer monitoring a web site all day and night

I stand by my comment

see ya later.. I actually have to go to work ;)

i never said you dont have a right to an opinion, i said your a troll who's always trying to start $h1t. and where exactly did i state that every single cop in the US is dumb? i said its ridiculous that departments are allowed to discriminate against someone for being too smart. maybe you could use a trip back to grade school, seems your reading isnt quite up to par. nowhere in this thread did i say "every cop in the US is dumb" so i dont know where you got that from. i simply stated the FACT that departments are allowed to deny someone from being a police officer because theyre too smart is ridiculous. why wouldnt departments want intelligent people policing the streets? why would they only want people below a certain IQ level to be cops? that was the point of the thread. but as usual you come in here putting words in my mouth and trying to act like a tuff guy. please show me in this post where I made the claim that every single cop in the US is dumb? good go have fun at work, somehow i feel like that comment is made to imply that i dont have a job and that i sit home all day and night posting on forums? well sorry i have a job that has downtime, and i can use a computer freely when im not busy.

and i stand by my comment also, your an annoying troll who gets a hard on everytime i post something and feel the need to come in and put words in my mouth and act like a hard @$$.

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Tue 06/09/15 06:25 PM
Hit a nerve Tomato?.. you don't expect some backlash when YOU classify a few 100,000 cops as dumb? Your words


so since those were "my words", i would like you to show me exactly where i said that. surely you know how to copy and paste, ill be waiting for you to show me where i made that claim. funny im not seeing where i said that at all in this thread. maybe you should read or try to read what i posted before you make accusations. so like i said ill be waiting for you to show me "my words" where i said that every single cop in the US is dumb.

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Tue 06/09/15 07:35 PM
ill be waiting for you to show me "my words" where i said that every single cop in the US is dumb.

It's in the title of the thread?
"government likes dumb cops "

Which seems to be derived from the title of the article?
"US Police Do Not Hire Intelligent People: Ex-CIA Contractor"


I thought this was just commonly known.
Like "cops carry guns," it's "they don't hire people with the highest iq's."

the court ruled its ok for departments to discriminate against cops for being too smart.

Businesses discriminate all the time.
You see a lot of men working at hooters?
You see a lot of 64 year old lifeguards?
You see a lot of recent felons working as school teachers?
A lot of hospitals test for and won't hire smokers.

There's tons of precedent for any industry to discriminate for some reason.

It just reminds me...wasn't there a story not too long ago about a dwarf suing starbucks for violating equal opportunity laws, but the dward was fired because they would need a stool or ladder to work there, and that presented a workplace hazard and possibly violated OSHA rules?

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Tue 06/09/15 08:00 PM
I live 'just' north of McKinney, Texas.

For the uninitiated...
McKinney, is the meth AND heroin capitol of northern Texas.

I avoid that sh|thole town, at all costs.

Salinas, California...
Ever been to Chinatown in Salinas?
There aren't any Chinese people left in Chinatown. The thieves pawned 'em all.

C.I.A.
Just because "intelligence" is their middle name, doesn't mean they're actually intelligent.

The gubbahmint disinformation, that you so vehemently rail against?

A good portion of the b.s., comes from the C.I.A....

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Tue 06/09/15 08:31 PM


Hit a nerve Tomato?.. you don't expect some backlash when YOU classify a few 100,000 cops as dumb? Your words

And this is a forum.. which means that I have the right to state what I feel, you don't have to agree.. And I don't expect you to.

When I see you post something that I find to be offensive I will call you on it. There is nothing " tough guy" about that. That is the way I am. I call it as I see it. If I am going to call someone or a group of people stupid..I do it to their face.

As for "popping in" yes I do on occasion because I have a life to live, so I don't have the luxury of sitting at a computer monitoring a web site all day and night

I stand by my comment

see ya later.. I actually have to go to work ;)

i never said you dont have a right to an opinion, i said your a troll who's always trying to start $h1t. and where exactly did i state that every single cop in the US is dumb? i said its ridiculous that departments are allowed to discriminate against someone for being too smart. maybe you could use a trip back to grade school, seems your reading isnt quite up to par. nowhere in this thread did i say "every cop in the US is dumb" so i dont know where you got that from. i simply stated the FACT that departments are allowed to deny someone from being a police officer because theyre too smart is ridiculous. why wouldnt departments want intelligent people policing the streets? why would they only want people below a certain IQ level to be cops? that was the point of the thread. but as usual you come in here putting words in my mouth and trying to act like a tuff guy. please show me in this post where I made the claim that every single cop in the US is dumb? good go have fun at work, somehow i feel like that comment is made to imply that i dont have a job and that i sit home all day and night posting on forums? well sorry i have a job that has downtime, and i can use a computer freely when im not busy.

and i stand by my comment also, your an annoying troll who gets a hard on everytime i post something and feel the need to come in and put words in my mouth and act like a hard @$$.


A troll.. Tomato??? Lol.. actually I run a worldwide manufacturing company, which is common knowledge to many on Mingle. I don't have time to play "I spy" on computers.

You know,, one of those companies that you drive by their corporate office and say to yourself.. Wow.. I wonder how I can get a job it there... that kind of place.

You see Tomato, there are 2 kinds of people in this world.. those who complain and those who act.

We are on different points of the spectrum.. thus will always clash.. nothing wrong with that ;)

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Tue 06/09/15 08:41 PM

ill be waiting for you to show me "my words" where i said that every single cop in the US is dumb.

It's in the title of the thread?
"government likes dumb cops "

Which seems to be derived from the title of the article?
"US Police Do Not Hire Intelligent People: Ex-CIA Contractor"


I thought this was just commonly known.
Like "cops carry guns," it's "they don't hire people with the highest iq's."

the court ruled its ok for departments to discriminate against cops for being too smart.

Businesses discriminate all the time.
You see a lot of men working at hooters?
You see a lot of 64 year old lifeguards?
You see a lot of recent felons working as school teachers?
A lot of hospitals test for and won't hire smokers.

There's tons of precedent for any industry to discriminate for some reason.

It just reminds me...wasn't there a story not too long ago about a dwarf suing starbucks for violating equal opportunity laws, but the dward was fired because they would need a stool or ladder to work there, and that presented a workplace hazard and possibly violated OSHA rules?


yes the title says "government likes dumb cops"

where exactly in there do I say "all cops in the US are dumb"

and why should being too intelligent disqualify you from being a cop?
why dont men work at hooters? why dont 64 YO ppl be lifeguards? like come on man those are some horrible examples, and dont even make sense. why dont men work at hooters? well lets see maybe because the whole theme of the restaurant is having girls with larger than normal breasts serving you. why dont 64 YO's be lifeguards, well maybe because theyre old and dont require the physical traits to be able to save someone who is drowning. why dont felons work as school teachers, because people dont want people with a criminal record around their children. all of those are understandable. but to say a person is "too smart" to be a cop is ridiculous.

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Tue 06/09/15 08:49 PM



Hit a nerve Tomato?.. you don't expect some backlash when YOU classify a few 100,000 cops as dumb? Your words

And this is a forum.. which means that I have the right to state what I feel, you don't have to agree.. And I don't expect you to.

When I see you post something that I find to be offensive I will call you on it. There is nothing " tough guy" about that. That is the way I am. I call it as I see it. If I am going to call someone or a group of people stupid..I do it to their face.

As for "popping in" yes I do on occasion because I have a life to live, so I don't have the luxury of sitting at a computer monitoring a web site all day and night

I stand by my comment

see ya later.. I actually have to go to work ;)

i never said you dont have a right to an opinion, i said your a troll who's always trying to start $h1t. and where exactly did i state that every single cop in the US is dumb? i said its ridiculous that departments are allowed to discriminate against someone for being too smart. maybe you could use a trip back to grade school, seems your reading isnt quite up to par. nowhere in this thread did i say "every cop in the US is dumb" so i dont know where you got that from. i simply stated the FACT that departments are allowed to deny someone from being a police officer because theyre too smart is ridiculous. why wouldnt departments want intelligent people policing the streets? why would they only want people below a certain IQ level to be cops? that was the point of the thread. but as usual you come in here putting words in my mouth and trying to act like a tuff guy. please show me in this post where I made the claim that every single cop in the US is dumb? good go have fun at work, somehow i feel like that comment is made to imply that i dont have a job and that i sit home all day and night posting on forums? well sorry i have a job that has downtime, and i can use a computer freely when im not busy.

and i stand by my comment also, your an annoying troll who gets a hard on everytime i post something and feel the need to come in and put words in my mouth and act like a hard @$$.


A troll.. Tomato??? Lol.. actually I run a worldwide manufacturing company, which is common knowledge to many on Mingle. I don't have time to play "I spy" on computers.

You know,, one of those companies that you drive by their corporate office and say to yourself.. Wow.. I wonder how I can get a job it there... that kind of place.

You see Tomato, there are 2 kinds of people in this world.. those who complain and those who act.

We are on different points of the spectrum.. thus will always clash.. nothing wrong with that ;)

i could care less where you work, im still waiting for you to show me where i said "every single cop in the US is dumb", after all those were "my words"

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Tue 06/09/15 08:53 PM

I live 'just' north of McKinney, Texas.

For the uninitiated...
McKinney, is the meth AND heroin capitol of northern Texas.

I avoid that sh|thole town, at all costs.

Salinas, California...
Ever been to Chinatown in Salinas?
There aren't any Chinese people left in Chinatown. The thieves pawned 'em all.

C.I.A.
Just because "intelligence" is their middle name, doesn't mean they're actually intelligent.

The gubbahmint disinformation, that you so vehemently rail against?

A good portion of the b.s., comes from the C.I.A....

understandable you cant just trust everything a person who worked for the CIA says, but im not just taking his word for it. theres an actual court ruling that substantiates it. a court actually ruled a police department can deny someone from being a cop for simply being "too smart", why wouldnt you want intelligent people to be able to police the streets? that makes no sense.