Topic: Charleston South Carolina - Shooting
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Thu 06/18/15 01:44 PM
Edited by RebelArcher on Thu 06/18/15 01:45 PM
but yea,
lets keep blaming the guns.
Dear Leader didnt even let the bodies get cold before trying to exploit the incident for political gain.....


"" We don' t have all the facts , but we do
know that once again, innocent people
were killed in part because someone who
wanted to inflict harm had no trouble
getting their hand on a gun.""
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/06/18/full-text-obamas-remarks-on-fatal-shooting-in-charleston-s-c/

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Thu 06/18/15 01:47 PM
Edited by SassyEuro2 on Thu 06/18/15 01:51 PM
http://dailycaller.com/2015/06/18/breaking-in-wake-of-south-carolina-shooting-obama-calls-for-gun-control/

Obama (video), asking for gun control

* Charleston ,South Carolina is the 24th largest USA city w/ many gun owners, as is their/ our 'right ' *


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Thu 06/18/15 01:51 PM

but yea,
lets keep blaming the guns.
Dear Leader didnt even let the bodies get cold before trying to exploit the incident for political gain.....


"" We don' t have all the facts , but we do
know that once again, innocent people
were killed in part because someone who
wanted to inflict harm had no trouble
getting their hand on a gun.""
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/06/18/full-text-obamas-remarks-on-fatal-shooting-in-charleston-s-c/


Does Obama have anyone to advise him of "appropriateness"?

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Thu 06/18/15 02:01 PM


but yea,
lets keep blaming the guns.
Dear Leader didnt even let the bodies get cold before trying to exploit the incident for political gain.....


"" We don' t have all the facts , but we do
know that once again, innocent people
were killed in part because someone who
wanted to inflict harm had no trouble
getting their hand on a gun.""
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/06/18/full-text-obamas-remarks-on-fatal-shooting-in-charleston-s-c/


Does Obama have anyone to advise him of "appropriateness"?


I think he has done more damage to 'race relations' than any other leader/ President.
And this is just ANOTHER criminal case- involving Afro- Americans, that he not only involves himself, but uses it at the EXPENSE of others for HIS OWN AGENDA.
* NO other President has involved themselves in LOCAL crimes (City & State), like he has.* rant


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Thu 06/18/15 02:03 PM
oops oops

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Thu 06/18/15 02:23 PM
Tomato stated >>>
Charleston shooter Dylan Storm Roof was reportedly taking a drug that has been linked with sudden outbursts of violence, fitting the pattern of innumerable other mass shooters who were on or had recently come off pharmaceutical drugs linked to aggression.


Another case of unsupervised meds or patient not taking his prescription as directed or he was having really - really bad side affects but didn't communicate that to his physician! But let's allow him access to a weapon --- :banana:

Those heavy duty prescription drugs --- bad a$$ things to be mess'n around with!

And for those 'broken record' humans >>> OMG - still trashing our president...and yet if he didn't comment there'd still be cynical comments about his 'lack of caring'!

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Thu 06/18/15 02:48 PM

but yea,
lets keep blaming the guns.
Dear Leader didnt even let the bodies get cold before trying to exploit the incident for political gain.....


"" We don' t have all the facts , but we do
know that once again, innocent people
were killed in part because someone who
wanted to inflict harm had no trouble
getting their hand on a gun.""
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/06/18/full-text-obamas-remarks-on-fatal-shooting-in-charleston-s-c/

all i keep hearing on the news now is "more gun control", phuking sickening. if those people in the church were allowed to exercise their 2nd amendment rights (church was gun free zone), someone would blew this dude away before he killed all them people. just like james holmes in colorado, he had 2 movie theaters closer to him, but yet he drove out of the way to target a theater that was a gun free zone. pretty convenient this stuff happens not long after obama tries to push his gun control BS. i swear the government uses tragedies to further political agendas. and i honestly think SOME of these shootings are fake/staged, but im not going to get into that because i dont have my tin foil hat on at the moment. i love how the media ignores the FACT that all these murderers are on some type of prescription drug. the gov is just going to try to keep chipping away at gun rights until noone is allowed to own them anymore. all in the name of safety, when in reality the department of justice's own records show gun violence and murders has gone DOWN steadily over the years. this story stinks worse than a months old gym socks. he just stands up in the church and says "im here to kill black people" and just starts shooting, like come on government, you can come up with a better story than that. this must be the brainwashing that douche holder was talking about.



F U HOLDER YOU ANTI AMERICAN PIECE OF GARBAGE!

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Thu 06/18/15 02:53 PM



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Thu 06/18/15 03:17 PM
Edited by RebelArcher on Thu 06/18/15 03:18 PM
OMG - still trashing our
president...and yet if he didn't comment
there'd still be cynical comments about his
'lack of caring'!
You dont know that for certain....because your dear president keeps making dumbazz comments. It hadnt even been 24hrs since the shooting and he makes that statement. You should go take a shower after defending him for that.
Ive seen nothing but support for the victims families....and hope for justice to be served.....by people of ALL races and political affiliations....all agreeing that an appropriate time would come to discuss anything outside of caring for the families and bringing the shooter to justice.
Defend that hack all you want, but that political whoring at that moment was disgusting. And Ill beat that dead horse til it rots.

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Thu 06/18/15 03:38 PM

but yea,
lets keep blaming the guns.
Dear Leader didnt even let the bodies get cold before trying to exploit the incident for political gain.....


"" We don' t have all the facts , but we do
know that once again, innocent people
were killed in part because someone who
wanted to inflict harm had no trouble
getting their hand on a gun.""



Innocent people were killed because no one there had a gun to defend themselves from sick killers like this.
Obama still doesn't get it. slaphead

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Thu 06/18/15 03:49 PM


but yea,
lets keep blaming the guns.
Dear Leader didnt even let the bodies get cold before trying to exploit the incident for political gain.....


"" We don' t have all the facts , but we do
know that once again, innocent people
were killed in part because someone who
wanted to inflict harm had no trouble
getting their hand on a gun.""



Innocent people were killed because no one there had a gun to defend themselves from sick killers like this.
Obama still doesn't get it. slaphead

exactly, they go to gun free zones because they know the people will be defenseless. just like james holmes passed up 2 movie theaters closer to him and went out of the way to a theater that was a gun free zone, its like shooting fish in a barrel. and of course obomba dosnt mention the fact this kid was taking pharmaceutical drugs, just instead immegiately blames the gun, as if the gun somehow loaded itself, walked itself to the church and pulled the trigger by itself.

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Thu 06/18/15 04:01 PM
Edited by 2OLD2MESSAROUND on Thu 06/18/15 04:04 PM
OMG - still trashing our president...and yet if he didn't comment there'd still be cynical comments about his
'lack of caring'!

RebelArcher stated >>>
You dont know that for certain....because your dear president keeps making dumbazz comments. It hadnt even been 24hrs since the shooting and he makes that statement. You should go take a shower after defending him for that.
Ive seen nothing but support for the victims families....and hope for justice to be served.....by people of ALL races and political affiliations....all agreeing that an appropriate time would come to discuss anything outside of caring for the families and bringing the shooter to justice.
Defend that hack all you want, but that political whoring at that moment was disgusting. And Ill beat that dead horse til it rots.


Your 'Right Leaning POV' seems to cause issues with what people say: but that's seems often the major malfunction from the 'RIGHT'!!! Inability to listen - just make CR*P up! noway

I posted what I did because the THASHING has zero limits; disrespecting our POTUS seems the only consistent mantra that 'TEAM I HATE OBAMA' can do! :wink:

Oddly your 'SELECTIVE' hearing must cause you to ignore all those humans that have been calling/pushing for better gun control and they DO CONTACT THEIR ELECTED REPRESENATIVES! And now here they are speaking out 'AGAIN'! flowerforyou

And here's the perfect place to dump this --- the other side to your POV...>>>

Gun owners not likely to use firearms for self-defense, study claims

A new study attempts to debunk the claim that gun owners rely on their firearms for self-defense.
Updated at 6:15 p.m.

The left-leaning Violence Policy Center released a study Wednesday that finds people are much more likely to use a gun to kill someone without cause than to protect themselves.

According to the study, gun owners committed 259 justifiable homicides compared to 8,342 criminal homicides in 2012, the most recent year data was available.

That means gun owners are 32 times more likely to kill someone without cause than to act in self-defense, the study reasoned.

'We hope legislators in every state will stop believing the self-defense myth and look at the facts,'�� says Julia Wyman, executive director of States United to Prevent Gun Violence. '��Guns do not make our families or communities safer.'��

But the National Rifle Association (NRA) called the study into question.

"This 'so-called' study, which was paid for and promoted by gun control advocates is rubbish," NRA spokeswoman Jennifer Baker said. "VPC fails to note that only a fraction of defensive firearm homicides are reported to the FBI and the study doesn't account for the many crimes deterred by a firearm that do not result in a homicide. Recent polling shows that most Americans believe exercising their constitutional right to self-protection makes them safer and this is just another transparent attempt to push gun control."��


http://thehill.com/regulation/245280-gun-owners-not-likely-to-use-firearms-for-self-defense-study-claims

BTW - my daily shower really isn't any part of this thread; but when the lack of data/facts...always fall back on vitriol! :banana:





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Thu 06/18/15 04:38 PM
Your 'Right Leaning POV' seems to cause
issues with what people say: but that's seems
often the major malfunction from the
'RIGHT'!!! Inability to listen - just make CR*P
up!
What did I make up? I posted what Obama said today verbatim.


Oddly your 'SELECTIVE' hearing must cause
you to ignore all those humans that have been
calling/pushing for better gun control and
they DO CONTACT THEIR ELECTED
REPRESENATIVES! And now here they are
speaking out 'AGAIN'!
Please let any national candidate run an election with gun control as one of his/her top 3 things to implement....I dare them.

The left-leaning Violence Policy Center
released a study Wednesday that finds
people are much more likely to use a gun to
kill someone without cause than to protect
themselves.
El Oh El, stopped reading their propaganda right there.


.always fall back on vitriol!
My vitriol? Im not the one with 5 exclamation points and 12 capitalized words in one post alone.
So.....






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Thu 06/18/15 04:41 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3130396/Dylann-Storm-Roof-21-glares-hauled-away-cuffs.html

" The Most Hated Man In America "

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Thu 06/18/15 04:46 PM
You should go take a shower after defending him for that.
slaphead

You need a chalk board and stick figures - you A$$umed yet again; my post...DUH LMAO This just can't get any better...and yet here's the best way to truly get rid of all the 'self-inflicted STUPID humans'>>>

Florida man checks if gun is loaded by putting it to head, pulling trigger; kills self
4:55 a.m. Wednesday, June 17, 2015

A 49-year-old man from Mims is dead after shooting himself in the head accidentally on Sunday, police said.

According to WKMG-TV, Charles Cooper and a female friend were on property that he owns in Mims, a town in North Florida, when the gun went off. The two were having a barbeque at the time and had been drinking, according to police.

The police report stated that Cooper retrieved his handgun and removed the magazine. His friend said that she was unsure if a round was in the chamber and when Cooper raised the handgun and pulled the trigger, it discharged, and he fell next to the fire.

According to police, Cooper was pronounced dead at the scene.

The Volusia County Medical Examiner’s Office is set to perform an autopsy.

Read more at WKMG-TV.


Not something the NRA likes to admit - like squawking about data that they can't prove when there's no data to support what they claim either!

NRA = Slightly skewed but if the 'Lesser thinking' humans don't question what the NRA spews then there's no descent either! LOL

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Thu 06/18/15 04:50 PM
SassyEuro posted >>>
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3130396/Dylann-Storm-Roof-21-glares-hauled-away-cuffs.html

" The Most Hated Man In America "


Quite the dichotomy between our nations headlines and what they publish over the pond in the UK...isn't it!

FB is blowing up about the 'white officers' wrapping him up in a bullet proof vest {as seen in the photo's}...but there really is something medically off with Dylan; and to have his father purchase that weapon for him just a month ago!!!

OMG...some parents! :angry:

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Thu 06/18/15 04:51 PM
Florida man checks if gun is loaded by putting it to head, pulling trigger; kills self
4:55 a.m. Wednesday, June 17, 2015

A 49-year-old man from Mims is dead after shooting himself in the head accidentally on Sunday, police said.

According to WKMG-TV, Charles Cooper and a female friend were on property that he owns in Mims, a town in North Florida, when the gun went off. The two were having a barbeque at the time and had been drinking, according to police.

The police report stated that Cooper retrieved his handgun and removed the magazine. His friend said that she was unsure if a round was in the chamber and when Cooper raised the handgun and pulled the trigger, it discharged, and he fell next to the fire.

According to police, Cooper was pronounced dead at the scene.

The Volusia County Medical Examiner’s Office is set to perform an autopsy.

Read more at WKMG-TV.


yepp, none of us should have guns because of what THIS guy did. 99.99999% of us are smarter than to put a gun to our head and pull the trigger to see if its loaded.

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Thu 06/18/15 04:54 PM

SassyEuro posted >>>
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3130396/Dylann-Storm-Roof-21-glares-hauled-away-cuffs.html

" The Most Hated Man In America "


Quite the dichotomy between our nations headlines and what they publish over the pond in the UK...isn't it!

FB is blowing up about the 'white officers' wrapping him up in a bullet proof vest {as seen in the photo's}...but there really is something medically off with Dylan; and to have his father purchase that weapon for him just a month ago!!!

OMG...some parents! :angry:


OMG and american father, bought his american son a gun for his birthday, OMG what a tragedy. people buy guns for family members all the time. we should ban fathers and sons, that way this type of thing wont happen again.

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Thu 06/18/15 05:07 PM
SassyEuro posted >>>
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3130396/Dylann-Storm-Roof-21-glares-hauled-away-cuffs.html

" The Most Hated Man In America "

2old2 stated >>>
Quite the dichotomy between our nations headlines and what they publish over the pond in the UK...isn't it!

FB is blowing up about the 'white officers' wrapping him up in a bullet proof vest {as seen in the photo's}...but there really is something medically off with Dylan; and to have his father purchase that weapon for him just a month ago!!!

OMG...some parents! :angry:


tomato posted >>>
OMG and american father, bought his american son a gun for his birthday, OMG what a tragedy. people buy guns for family members all the time. we should ban fathers and sons, that way this type of thing wont happen again.


NOW - NOW...don't go getting all 'GIRLY HYSTERIA' about that; flowerforyou

YOU were then one that posted Dylann's prior drug issue - RIGHT? :wink: And when & if you ever become a Father...I know you'd be better aware and hellish more responsible to provide you 'habitual-drugged up dependent child' a weapongrumble Unless you were hoping he could just 'OFF HIMSELF' and that would remove the problem child from his responsibility --- noway

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Thu 06/18/15 05:15 PM
Edited by 2OLD2MESSAROUND on Thu 06/18/15 05:17 PM
Florida man checks if gun is loaded by putting it to head, pulling trigger; kills self
4:55 a.m. Wednesday, June 17, 2015

A 49-year-old man from Mims is dead after shooting himself in the head accidentally on Sunday, police said.

According to WKMG-TV, Charles Cooper and a female friend were on property that he owns in Mims, a town in North Florida, when the gun went off. The two were having a barbeque at the time and had been drinking, according to police.

The police report stated that Cooper retrieved his handgun and removed the magazine. His friend said that she was unsure if a round was in the chamber and when Cooper raised the handgun and pulled the trigger, it discharged, and he fell next to the fire.

According to police, Cooper was pronounced dead at the scene.

The Volusia County Medical Examiner'�s Office is set to perform an autopsy.

Read more at WKMG-TV.

Tomato posted >>>
yepp, none of us should have guns because of what THIS guy did. 99.99999% of us are smarter than to put a gun to our head and pull the trigger to see if its loaded.


Amazing - and here I was thinking that you would see the 'HUMOR' in that article! Geeze, lightenup...you didn't hand that MORON the hand gun! laugh

But I just happen to have some data about those incidents; and I just knew you'd love to read about them too! LMAO >>>

Abstract

This study compares other-inflicted and self-inflicted unintentional firearm fatalities. Data come from the National Violent Death Reporting System, a new surveillance system from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Data are currently available from 16 states and parts of California for various years 2003 �- 2006. Of the 363 unintentional firearm fatalities, about half (49%) were other-inflicted, ranging from 78% of child (aged 0 - ��14) deaths to 19% of older adult (aged 55+) deaths. In other-inflicted shooting deaths, the shooters were overwhelmingly young (81% under age 25). The shooters in the other-inflicted deaths were primarily friends (43%) or family (47%); brothers were the most common family shooter. To learn how to prevent unintentional injuries, it is critical to have information not only on the victim, but also on the person who inflicted the injury.


http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0001457510000114

Just in case you're wanting to make hard copies for your file! :wink: flowerforyou