Topic: We must use Russian Rockets???
metalwing's photo
Thu 10/08/15 04:49 AM
For years, the United Launch Alliance—a joint venture between Boeing and Lockheed Martin—provided the U.S. Air Force's only way of getting satellites into orbit. After a lot of contention, SpaceX broke up that monopoly in May of this year, when the company got permission to start launching national security payloads. Now, it seems ULA can't compete with SpaceX.

ULA's Atlas V launch vehicle relies on Russian engines to get off the ground. Last year those RD-180 engines were banned by Congress from launches involving military and spy satellites, after Russia invaded Crimea, adding even more tension to the U.S.'s already fraught relationship with the former USSR.

Although ULA is working on a replacement for the RD-180, its BE-4 is not likely to be ready for the launchpad until 2019 at the earliest. ULA is seeking an exemption from the ban so that they can continue doing business in the meantime. Reuters reports that a decision is expected “fairly soon”.

If the Defense Department doesn't make an exemption to the restrictions, ULA won't be able to make a bid on a new launch contract to send a GPS satellite into space. If ULA wins its exemption, this will be the first competition for a large military satellite launch contract since 2006.

It seems likely ULA will get its exemption, as the Air Force is suddenly concerned about fostering competition and having a back-up provider. Reuters quotes Defense Undersecretary Frank Kendall:

"If you’re only dependent on one source for launches, and something happens to that source, then you’re in deep trouble," he said. "At the end of the day want to make sure we have two ways to get our payloads into space."

Dumbness in motion!

Special note: Some of SpaceX's rockets have blown up lately.

InvictusV's photo
Thu 10/08/15 02:50 PM
I work for a Space X supplier and I know that the failures have woken them up..

Their head of quality has been here several times.

NASA just launched a sounding rocket from Wallops last night. First launch since the Antares explosion destroyed the launch pad facility.

I haven't paid attention to what Orbital has been doing lately, but I think they are scaling back until they have a viable replacement for that old russian mess they were using when the Antares blew..


Rock's photo
Thu 10/08/15 03:28 PM
Hasn't been anything decent come out of Russia, since the era of the czars.

Russian stuff sucks!


metalwing's photo
Thu 10/08/15 03:35 PM
Interesting note: The old Saturn Five was the most reliable heavy lift rocket ever built. They are recreating the F-1 engines without all the hand welding. Heaven forbid we should reuse a design that works well.

InvictusV's photo
Thu 10/08/15 03:47 PM

Interesting note: The old Saturn Five was the most reliable heavy lift rocket ever built. They are recreating the F-1 engines without all the hand welding. Heaven forbid we should reuse a design that works well.


is that for the SLS?


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Thu 10/08/15 04:31 PM
I heard today that some of the Russian Missals Fired from ships fell short into Iran. Too bad :)