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From Brexit to Texit: Texas secession movement targets 2018 ballot
While Britain’s vote to leave the European Union shocked even some ‘Brexit’ supporters, the Texas Nationalist Movement is confident Texans will vote for independence in 2018. Now Governor Greg Abbott is being asked to answer their ‘Texit’ appeal. The last state to secede from the US was Texas 155 years ago, but history does repeat itself from time to time. That time is now, or at least will be in 2018, if the Texas Nationalist Movement gets its way. “The win for Brexit opens the door for Texit by establishing, concretely, that it is possible to have an adult conversation on independence and letting the people have the final say,” Daniel Miller, President of the TNM, said in a statement on Friday. Boasting 261,231 supporters on its website, TNM is calling for more Texans to join and bring pressure on Abbott to allow a vote on independence from the US and its “sprawling Federal bureaucracy.” Failing to put its single issue on the ballot last year, and with the Brexit victory coming too late to rally support for a 2016 attempt, TNM will aim for the 2018 mid-term election to convince voters to leave the US. The Lone Star State was the 28th to join the Union in 1845, following nine years of being an independent republic. And based on its present day $1.6 trillion economy, if it did become a separate nation, it would be among the 10 top economies in the world, Miller says. The group has 208,643 likes on Facebook, compared to 132,057 for the Texas Democratic Party and 75,470 for the state’s GOP. Other similar Facebook pages have garnered many followers as well. And Texas is not alone when it comes to following the Brexit example. "We intend to mimic that process here in California by putting an independence referendum on the ballot so we can exercise our right to self-determination and vote to leave or remain part of the American Union," Louis Marinelli, president of the Yes California Independence Campaign, told Reuters. Long before Brexit was seriously considered, a 2014 Reuters/Ipsos poll found that 23.9 percent of Americans were open to the idea of their own state exiting the Union. http://www.rt.com/usa/348303-brexit-texit-texas-secession/ TNM Calls On Abbott To Support Texit Vote ![]() http://www.thetnm.org/tnm_calls_on_abbott_to_support_texit_vote/ After Brexit, what? U.S. secessionists hankering for 'Texit' Texas Governor Greg Abbott speaks at a campaign rally for U.S. Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz in Dallas, Texas February 29, 2016 (Reuters) - Emboldened by Brexit, U.S. secessionists in Texas are keen to adopt the campaign tactics used to sway the British vote for leaving the European Union and are demanding "Texit" comes next. The citizen-driven vote in Britain can be a model for Texas, which was an independent country from 1836 to 1845, and its $1.6 trillion a year economy would be among the 10 largest in the world, said Daniel Miller, president of the Texas Nationalist Movement. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-usa-secession-idUSKCN0ZA3F4/ ![]() ![]() http://texasflag.facts.co/texasstateflagof/texasflag.php Abbott’s Strategy in Texas: 44 Lawsuits, One Opponent: Obama Administration Former attorney general, now governor, has led a red-state revolt against the White House June 24, 2016 DALLAS—When a deadlocked Supreme Court on Thursday blocked President Barack Obama’s plan to give millions of illegal immigrants a temporary reprieve from deportation, it marked a pivotal victory for the administration’s most relentless legal adversary: the state of Texas. http://www.wsj.com/articles/abbotts-strategy-in-texas-44-lawsuits-one-opponent-obama-administration-1466778976?mod=rss_US_News/ |
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#Texit #Calexit? Brexit vote inspires long-forgotten movements for independence in US
As America celebrates its 240th anniversary of independence from Britain, Texas' and California's campaigns to secede from the US have been given a kiss of life. But are they really ready to follow #Brexit and revive their bids to break away from Washington. #Texit #Texodus Right after the Brexit success, people in Texas began pushing for a ‘Texit’– a Texas split from the USA – on social media. To explain why Texas should secede from the Union, Twitter users showed the map of EU and outlined the area of the Lone Star State. And it looks rather impressive. Others even suggested a better hashtag for a Texas exit: #Texodus, a portmanteau of ‘Texas’ plus ‘exodus’, the migration of Jews from Egypt. Texas was the 28th state to join the Union in 1845, following nine years as an independent republic. According to speculation from the Texas Nationalist Movement, the state could exit the US as early as 2018. “In the Brexit vote, the people of UK felt that they were paying more into EU than were getting out of it. And it’s exactly as it is here in Texas,” Daniel Miller, President of the TNM, told RT. According to Miller, there is a sense locally that the best people to govern Texas are Texans. [READ MORE: From Brexit to Texit: Texas secession movement targets 2018 ballot] Boasting 261,231 supporters on its website, TNM is calling for more Texans to join and bring pressure on Texas Governor Greg Abbott to allow a vote on independence from the US and its “sprawling Federal bureaucracy.” And based on its present day $1.6 trillion economy, if it did become a separate nation, it would be among the 10 top economies in the world, Miller said. The group has more likes on Facebook than the Texas Democratic Party, one of the two major political parties in Texas, with 211,000 ‘likes’ compared to 133,000. #Calexit #Caleavefornia And Texas is not alone when it comes to following the Brexit example – some in California, the most populous US state, are ready to split, too. Maybe a Calexit might not be a bad idea. 6th largest economy in world & an engine for economic growth. California as a sovereign republic. — Shervin Pishevar (@shervin) June 24, 2016 The ‘Yes, California’ Twitter community, which leads the campaign for the Golden State to secede from the United States, already compared the size of California to the EU. “We are here in California subsidizing the other states of this union,” Louis J. Marinelli, president of the Yes, California independence campaign, told RT. “As a result we are losing tens, sometimes hundreds of billions of dollars every year” to other states. Thus, Californians don’t have enough to improve healthcare or education, he added. “We did an informal poll. We asked 9,000 Californians: ‘Should California become an independent country?’ And our response at that time was 41 percent said ‘Yes’. That’s why we take so much encouragement after what happened in the Brexit vote,” he added. Some 7,000 users ‘like’ Yes California on Facebook. The group is organizing a California Independence Rally on the 166th Anniversary of Californian ‘Statehood’ September 9. California officially joined US back in 1850, becoming its 31st state. [READ MORE: Brexit changes nothing{ Yet California and Texas are not the only US states eager to exit the union. [READ MORE: Washington fears Brexit will unravel its anti-Russia policy] Native Americans, who have long struggled for independence status in the US, proposed their own Republic of Lakotah back in 2007. It is, in fact, a virtual state which covers some 200,000 sq km and includes territories of North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Wyoming and Montana. In the meantime, the Alaskan Independence Party (AIP) has been calling to quit the US since 1980s. There is also the so-called Cascadian movement in the US and Canada, which calls to form a country consisting of Washington, Oregon and portions of other US states, as well as British Columbia, Canada. Hawaii, the most recent state of the US, which received statehood back in 1959, has also had its own independence movements since the 1960s. One of them, the Hawaiian sovereignty movement, says that the archipelago’s annexation was illegal. However, according to Eugene Volokh, a law professor at University of California, the exit of states from the US, and Texit in particular, won’t happen. "A state couldn’t legally force the US to let it secede, if the US refused. But if the state and the US agreed, that would be doable. At worst, it would require a constitutional amendment, but most likely an act of Congress, coupled with a majority referendum that the state government views as binding, would suffice," Volokh told the Dallas Observer He added that “most Texans ….are proud to be Americans, whether or not they like what the federal government is doing, and they can see the benefits of remaining part of a powerful country that can defend their interests.” http://www.rt.com/usa/348303-brexit-texit-texas-secession/ |
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“We are here in California subsidizing the other states of this union,” Louis J. Marinelli, president of the Yes, California independence campaign, told RT. “As a result we are losing tens, sometimes hundreds of billions of dollars every year” to other states. Thus, Californians don’t have enough to improve healthcare or education, he added. In the meantime, the Alaskan Independence Party (AIP) has been calling to quit the US since 1980s. There is also the so-called Cascadian movement in the US and Canada, which calls to form a country consisting of Washington, Oregon and portions of other US states, as well as British Columbia, Canada. 1..Re: California... hmmm, how do I say this?....here is an example of the difference between a Canadian and an American.. Here in Canada, with our social structure, the 'rich' Provinces (State), helps the 'poorer' Provinces (State)..so everyone can have access to programs/health/education/etc.. Canadians are sharers I guess and the Americans are me, me, me.. 2. Re: AIP - BC ain't going nowhere, so not sure where/who thought up this idea.. bullcrap. |
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Edited by
Conrad_73
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Wed 07/06/16 06:54 AM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascadia_(independence_movement)
http://www.cascadianow.org/ ![]() And then we have Quebec! ![]() |
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Edited by
RustyKitty
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Wed 07/06/16 07:09 AM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascadia_(independence_movement) http://www.cascadianow.org/ ![]() And then we have Quebec! ![]() Thanks..old news.. still going nowhere.. |
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From Brexit to Texit: Texas secession movement targets 2018 ballot While Britain’s vote to leave the European Union shocked even some ‘Brexit’ supporters, the Texas Nationalist Movement is confident Texans will vote for independence in 2018. Now Governor Greg Abbott is being asked to answer their ‘Texit’ appeal. The last state to secede from the US was Texas 155 years ago, but history does repeat itself from time to time. That time is now, or at least will be in 2018, if the Texas Nationalist Movement gets its way. “The win for Brexit opens the door for Texit by establishing, concretely, that it is possible to have an adult conversation on independence and letting the people have the final say,” Daniel Miller, President of the TNM, said in a statement on Friday. Boasting 261,231 supporters on its website, TNM is calling for more Texans to join and bring pressure on Abbott to allow a vote on independence from the US and its “sprawling Federal bureaucracy.” Failing to put its single issue on the ballot last year, and with the Brexit victory coming too late to rally support for a 2016 attempt, TNM will aim for the 2018 mid-term election to convince voters to leave the US. The Lone Star State was the 28th to join the Union in 1845, following nine years of being an independent republic. And based on its present day $1.6 trillion economy, if it did become a separate nation, it would be among the 10 top economies in the world, Miller says. The group has 208,643 likes on Facebook, compared to 132,057 for the Texas Democratic Party and 75,470 for the state’s GOP. Other similar Facebook pages have garnered many followers as well. And Texas is not alone when it comes to following the Brexit example. "We intend to mimic that process here in California by putting an independence referendum on the ballot so we can exercise our right to self-determination and vote to leave or remain part of the American Union," Louis Marinelli, president of the Yes California Independence Campaign, told Reuters. Long before Brexit was seriously considered, a 2014 Reuters/Ipsos poll found that 23.9 percent of Americans were open to the idea of their own state exiting the Union. http://www.rt.com/usa/348303-brexit-texit-texas-secession/ TNM Calls On Abbott To Support Texit Vote ![]() http://www.thetnm.org/tnm_calls_on_abbott_to_support_texit_vote/ After Brexit, what? U.S. secessionists hankering for 'Texit' Texas Governor Greg Abbott speaks at a campaign rally for U.S. Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz in Dallas, Texas February 29, 2016 (Reuters) - Emboldened by Brexit, U.S. secessionists in Texas are keen to adopt the campaign tactics used to sway the British vote for leaving the European Union and are demanding "Texit" comes next. The citizen-driven vote in Britain can be a model for Texas, which was an independent country from 1836 to 1845, and its $1.6 trillion a year economy would be among the 10 largest in the world, said Daniel Miller, president of the Texas Nationalist Movement. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-usa-secession-idUSKCN0ZA3F4/ ![]() ![]() http://texasflag.facts.co/texasstateflagof/texasflag.php Abbott’s Strategy in Texas: 44 Lawsuits, One Opponent: Obama Administration Former attorney general, now governor, has led a red-state revolt against the White House June 24, 2016 DALLAS—When a deadlocked Supreme Court on Thursday blocked President Barack Obama’s plan to give millions of illegal immigrants a temporary reprieve from deportation, it marked a pivotal victory for the administration’s most relentless legal adversary: the state of Texas. http://www.wsj.com/articles/abbotts-strategy-in-texas-44-lawsuits-one-opponent-obama-administration-1466778976?mod=rss_US_News/ Does Texas have a Legal Right to secede,or would it cause another Civil War? |
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Does Texas have a Legal Right to secede,or would it cause another Civil War? [Quote/] Yes, all states have the right.. Even territories/ partial States, (to become their own state, which are also doing). And that is what the civil war was over in the first place. The North (Washington/ government/Lincoln), wanting taxes & authority over every individual state. There are usually at least 16 States that want to succeed at a time. (Not..just Southern ones). At the point when there were 26+ States & the (major) media (finally , writing about it).... Then the ' Confederate Battle Flag' issued appeared.. So ignorant people would think it is about race (like some think the civil war was about slavery), & jump on a SJW bandwagon... Smfh ; when in reality, it is about breaking sovereignty & ONE power to override the 50+. Anyway. Thank you. I try to include every state that had a major story & as many countries as possible. 6 Texas forum personalities and not one post on a 11 day old thread. Smfh. Ugh..why did I even bother? Well.. That is changing. ![]() |
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