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Topic: dll hell
HillFolk's photo
Sat 12/01/07 05:20 PM
Got the yahoo tool bar through mozilla which eliminated the need to download it to ubuntu.

netuserlla's photo
Sun 12/02/07 06:51 AM
So am I to understand that you have the Linux Ubuntu 7.10 Gusty Gibbon version? If so, Beryl is not included in the manager, so you will have use a 'sudo apt-get' to get it. Or you might be able to get it in the synaptic package manager.(administrative tools).

As for feisty fawn, the built in Gaim IM will easily connect you to the MSN and Yahoo IMs.

As for gusty gibbon, the built in Pidgion IM easily connects to MSN, Yahoo, and Myspace.

netuserlla's photo
Sun 12/02/07 06:58 AM

Got the yahoo tool bar through mozilla which eliminated the need to download it to ubuntu.




I am not very fond of tool bars (I even hide my bookmarks toolbar), but the add on 'video download helper' is very nice for firefox browser.
-------tools/\downloads/\extensions/\video download helper-------

HillFolk's photo
Sun 12/02/07 02:37 PM
Running kopete which let me run the yahoo messenger. There are so many freeware programs that one can run. Starting to get the hang of it. Yeah, I am constantly using the view full screen on the browser. I can understand the dislike of toolbars. Neat pop up blocker built right in to the mozilla.

HillFolk's photo
Sun 12/02/07 02:42 PM
I am liking the gutsy gibbon better. I always like working with betas. I got to run the beta for Windows 98 before 98 was on the market.

HillFolk's photo
Mon 12/03/07 05:59 AM
netuserlla, another reason that I forgot since I have been on Windows so long that I like about Linux is that one doesn't have to run scan disk and defrag with Linux. Found a great Mahjong game and the program called Envy fixed my Nvidia problem.

netuserlla's photo
Wed 12/12/07 02:19 PM
Soo very cool. I love hearing from other 'Linux' users like myself.
Yea, I think that it is great that the filing system stays in tact.
Kopete was one of my favorite IM programs also.
I know that there are thousands of programs for free that are easily accessable through the add/remove, but don't forget that you can even try alot of newly written programs available for free by compiling it in code using the sudo apt-get.(or yum)

RainbowTrout's photo
Thu 12/13/07 08:20 PM
aptitude versus apt-get

If someone asks you to sudo rm -rf anything, don't do it, and don't run any command with rm in it unless you know exactly what you're doing. Read this for more information.

http://ubuntuforums.org/announcement.php?a=54

http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/aptitude

Evidently Ubuntu has something similiar to dll hell.:smile:

Note: In order for aptitude to work properly, you must first do an update, then an install. Also, you cannot install with apt-get or Synaptic and then expect to have dependencies removed by uninstalling with aptitude.

All dependencies must resolved before moving on. Oh, cool. According to the advice I am getting just use debs because they remove the dependencies. I equate dependencies to dll files. It is starting to make sense.

KalamazooGuy87's photo
Thu 12/13/07 09:14 PM

I was impressed with Windows 2000 professional. Have been considering the move to XP. Just know my way around ME. Sure would miss msconfig though.


XP still has msconfig, 200 doesnt not.. in 200 you have to manually remove such start up registry keys =)

i know late on the post here

alex4nder's photo
Thu 12/13/07 10:47 PM
windows needs to do away with registry =/

KalamazooGuy87's photo
Thu 12/13/07 10:50 PM
tweak it out you mean... Windows tweaks things only visable to the human eye, we buy things on looks Vista looks really nice on the boot up, about all i can say on this.

chrish's photo
Fri 12/14/07 04:17 AM

tweak it out you mean... Windows tweaks things only visable to the human eye, we buy things on looks Vista looks really nice on the boot up, about all i can say on this.


I disagree. Vista looks like the girl (or guy) that should look nice (everything in proportion and in the right place) but for some reason your just not attracted to.

RainbowTrout's photo
Fri 12/14/07 05:35 AM
GtkOrphan (a Perl/Gtk2 application for debian systems) is a graphical tool which analyzes the status of your installations, looking for orphaned libraries. It implements a GUI front-end for deborphan, adding the package-removal capability.

Ok, here is something that I have seen before with dlls. Dlls can get orphaned. Dlls are Dynamics linking libraries and one dlls can serve more than one program.

I am sure the libraries are different but have seen library files when using the synaptic package manager.

RainbowTrout's photo
Fri 12/14/07 05:39 AM
At GtkOrphan's first run, you should initialize your system in order to keep track of needed packages, even if they are reported as orphaned.
In the main window, expand the "Options" section and check the "Show all orphan packages, not only those in the libs section" checkbox. Note: with this option, GtkOrphan will report as "orphaned" all those installed packages that are not dependencies for any other. In this way, for instance, packages such as gparted, ubuntu-desktop, wine will be listed too, as they are "top-level" packages and no other package depends on them. Now you can traverse this list and right-click->hibernate each package you want to keep and that you don't want to be reported as orphaned anymore. The hibernation list will keep these files and will not show them anymore. You can access and modify the hibernation list as you want, from the View menu or from the right-click popup menu.

That seems highly risky to me. I think I won't mess with that.laugh

RainbowTrout's photo
Fri 12/14/07 05:42 AM
Isn't it amazing how the registry in Windows started as the tree in DOS?

RainbowTrout's photo
Fri 12/14/07 05:43 AM
But, yet Bill Gates was quoted as saying that DOS is dead.laugh

RainbowTrout's photo
Fri 12/14/07 05:47 AM
When you use the TREE command each directory name is displayed along with the names of any subdirectories within it. The display will be in a format like the summary below. (Different versions of DOS may display the data in a slightly different format.)

First, the root directory and the directories within it are listed (directory names listed in a five column display):

DIRECTORY PATH LISTING FOR VOLUME (volume name)

Path is C:

Then each directory within the root is listed:

Path is: C:\(directory name)

The first time I installed Ubuntu some how I had a C:/ in Ubuntu when I tried using Wine. I thought, uh oh.laugh

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