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Topic: Leftists Delusional View of Trump
Robxbox73's photo
Mon 11/21/16 12:16 AM

balance is a goal to strive for,,


Not if it means accepting pedophiles and entities that want to tear down America. No more kissing other governments *****. Stand up for your country.

isaac_dede's photo
Mon 11/21/16 12:41 AM
Balance can NEVER be achieved in a frwe society. ...ever.

there will ALWAYS be someone who works harder and get more..those that don't work aren't entitled to any of it and shouldn't be.....is it unbalanced sure, but is it fair? Absolutely.

If my neighbor is lucky and wins the lottery, I shouldn't expect him to fix my driveway. .its his..it is unbalanced? Yes. Is it fair? Yep he was lucky.

Problem is people seem to think balanced and fair mean the same. They don't.

Someone is always going to feel slighted and blame everyone else but themselves.

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 11/21/16 01:35 AM
http://thesnarkwhohuntsback.wordpress.com/favorite-passages-from-atlas-shrugged/the-story-of-the-twentieth-century-motor-company-atlas-shrugged-part-ii/
Think it is too far fetched?
Look around and think again!

msharmony's photo
Mon 11/21/16 07:42 AM

Balance can NEVER be achieved in a frwe society. ...ever.

there will ALWAYS be someone who works harder and get more..those that don't work aren't entitled to any of it and shouldn't be.....is it unbalanced sure, but is it fair? Absolutely.

If my neighbor is lucky and wins the lottery, I shouldn't expect him to fix my driveway. .its his..it is unbalanced? Yes. Is it fair? Yep he was lucky.

Problem is people seem to think balanced and fair mean the same. They don't.

Someone is always going to feel slighted and blame everyone else but themselves.



there will always be those who dont work harder and get more,, if someone is born into millions and a coveted family name should they disparage those who are born into abject poverty for not working 'as hard'?

but balance , to me, is trying to apply standards consistently


balance to me, is looking for responsibility , and not blame, learning from the past and USING that for ideas forward

walking in other peoples shoes


not making things about 'liberals' this and 'conservatives' that , but instead making them about people and the things they do, understanding that hardly anyone falls squarely and exclusively into a political philosophy

isaac_dede's photo
Mon 11/21/16 10:06 AM


Balance can NEVER be achieved in a frwe society. ...ever.

there will ALWAYS be someone who works harder and get more..those that don't work aren't entitled to any of it and shouldn't be.....is it unbalanced sure, but is it fair? Absolutely.

If my neighbor is lucky and wins the lottery, I shouldn't expect him to fix my driveway. .its his..it is unbalanced? Yes. Is it fair? Yep he was lucky.

Problem is people seem to think balanced and fair mean the same. They don't.

Someone is always going to feel slighted and blame everyone else but themselves.



there will always be those who dont work harder and get more,, if someone is born into millions and a coveted family name should they disparage those who are born into abject poverty for not working 'as hard'?

but balance , to me, is trying to apply standards consistently


balance to me, is looking for responsibility , and not blame, learning from the past and USING that for ideas forward

walking in other peoples shoes


not making things about 'liberals' this and 'conservatives' that , but instead making them about people and the things they do, understanding that hardly anyone falls squarely and exclusively into a political philosophy


Immediately making a judgment on someone 'born into millions' with a 'name' I personally wonder when they got a name, was it their dads work? Their grandpa's work, their great grand-parents work? Someome somewhere alobg their lineage ESTABLISHED that name.....

I'm of the mindset that I'd like to learn WHY that name holds value, what was their accomplishments, I hope to establish my own name one day, and I hope my great great grandkids will still be able to succeed off my name.

There are stories everywhere of people succeeding out of poverty. They all have one thing in common, they worked their butts off, and believed in themselves more than anyone around them, they went after it and never gave up....

I don't think anyone should disparage anyone else, but FAR too many people blame their surroundings instead of themselves.

msharmony's photo
Mon 11/21/16 04:09 PM
I think its impossible to really measure what working 'hard' is in a manner that can determine who is working 'harder'

but hard work isn't what makes success, its what is used to shame people into working 'harder', usually to reinforce someone elses success

success comes from understanding the system, and money,, and working 'smart'

Kindlightheart's photo
Mon 11/21/16 05:21 PM

Soros dislikes Americagrumble

...Soros hate humans...he writhes in the idea that he is above human...the prick needs to understand that he lined his pockets from killing his own people...sure it was the best time of his life...yet..he's still a piece of human garbage the blue bloods will never accept...hence his hatred...he will always be nothing...all his money...still he is nothing ohwellflowerforyou

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Mon 11/21/16 06:03 PM
Edited by SimpyComplicated on Mon 11/21/16 06:04 PM

Balance can NEVER be achieved in a frwe society. ...ever.

there will ALWAYS be someone who works harder and get more..those that don't work aren't entitled to any of it and shouldn't be.....is it unbalanced sure, but is it fair? Absolutely.

If my neighbor is lucky and wins the lottery, I shouldn't expect him to fix my driveway. .its his..it is unbalanced? Yes. Is it fair? Yep he was lucky.

Problem is people seem to think balanced and fair mean the same. They don't.

Someone is always going to feel slighted and blame everyone else but themselves.


Balance is always being achieved in society, just not perfect balance.
If perfect balance is every achieved it will only be a fleeting achievement.

Fair is a fanciful construct

Effect on self, others and environment is what individuals and society are always balancing.

Equality of this balance is what I fancy

dust4fun's photo
Mon 11/21/16 08:30 PM


Balance can NEVER be achieved in a frwe society. ...ever.

there will ALWAYS be someone who works harder and get more..those that don't work aren't entitled to any of it and shouldn't be.....is it unbalanced sure, but is it fair? Absolutely.

If my neighbor is lucky and wins the lottery, I shouldn't expect him to fix my driveway. .its his..it is unbalanced? Yes. Is it fair? Yep he was lucky.

Problem is people seem to think balanced and fair mean the same. They don't.

Someone is always going to feel slighted and blame everyone else but themselves.



there will always be those who dont work harder and get more,, if someone is born into millions and a coveted family name should they disparage those who are born into abject poverty for not working 'as hard'?

but balance , to me, is trying to apply standards consistently


balance to me, is looking for responsibility , and not blame, learning from the past and USING that for ideas forward

walking in other peoples shoes


not making things about 'liberals' this and 'conservatives' that , but instead making them about people and the things they do, understanding that hardly anyone falls squarely and exclusively into a political philosophy

Are things really as off balance as people think? Who really is paying their own way, and who just thinks they aren't getting enough? The average spent per student in the US each year is $12,871. That includes all expenses, instruction its self is $7,500 of that. Do the math, that's $150,000 for the 12 years of grammer school. 50.9% are considered economically disadvantaged. The majority of people do not pay enough into the system to support their own children's education much less what they use from the system. If someone has 3 children and makes less than the required they not only get $1000 tax credit for each child, but can also be eligible for an earned tax credit. So as we are bashing rich people who are in a 40% tax bracket, and corporations, stop and think of what we truly get from the system. It may seem way out of wack, but in a lot of ways its balanced more towards those who need it than most are willing to admit.

dust4fun's photo
Mon 11/21/16 08:47 PM
Here's some more balance. 50.9% of students are white, but that number seems to be falling and soon below half. 24% are Hispanic,that one seems to be growing fast, but maybe our new wall will slow it a little. 8.6% are considered English learners, I'm guessing may come to this country for opportunity, which may include free education and plenty of hand outs.

msharmony's photo
Tue 11/22/16 12:09 AM
people contribute in many ways to keep society going,, taxes arent the only contribution that makes things fair of balanced

but it is interesting that a simple statement about striving for balance can cause disagreement

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 11/22/16 01:44 AM
http://www.lowellsun.com/breakingnews/ci_30592390/massachusetts-college-stops-flying-american-flag-after-it

Mass. college stops flying U.S. flag after students say its a symbol of racism, hatred
By Susan Svrluga, The Washington Post
Updated: 11/21/2016 03:52:19 PM EST



The day after the election, some people at Hampshire College reacted to news of Donald Trump's victory by calling for removal of the American flag at the center of campus, saying it was a symbol of racism and hatred. That night, some lowered it. And the following night - sometime before dawn on Veterans Day - people burned it.

The flag was quickly replaced, but the college board announced it would be flown at half-staff, "both to acknowledge the grief and pain experienced by so many and to enable the full complexity of voices and experiences to be heard."

That didn't work, Jonathan Lash, the president of the small liberal-arts college in western Massachusetts said Monday.

Lowering the flag to half-staff offended many, and the backlash was immediate, especially from veterans and military families who saw it as disrespectful of the tradition of national mourning.

On Friday, Lash told the campus community that its efforts to convey respect and sorrow had had the opposite effect, and announced that the college would remove the flag entirely.

He said there is a tremendous range of views on campus, "people for whom the flag is a very powerful symbol of fear they've felt all their lives because they grew up as people of color, never feeling safe - and people for whom it's a symbol of their highest aspiration for the country.
"

Dissent over the flag's meaning has intensified nationally in recent months, with some seeing it as a symbol of unity and pride, and others as one of oppression. Lash said he was trying to find a way to allow the community to have a direct, open, respectful conversation about those contradictory ideas. He hopes removing the symbol will free people up to talk.

Similar debates are playing out on other campuses, where protests and demonstrations followed the election results, some of them with anger directed at the national symbol.

At Brown University, some students tore up and stomped on flags from an event honoring veterans last week, while others hurried to replace and protect the flags.

At American University the day after the election, students upset about Trump's victory burned flags and shouted "F-- white America!"

And at many campuses, minority students have been targeted and harassed in the days after the election, with swastikas scrawled on doors, women's hijabs yanked off, black students being called racial slurs and racist posters glued to campus walls.

In a message to the Hampshire community earlier this month, board leaders wrote that the divisions and conflicts of the presidential campaign that erupted after the election were felt acutely and personally. "On campus we have seen numerous expressions of pain, fear, anger, and vulnerability - understandable given news reports from across the country about acts of hostility and violence against people of color, immigrants, international citizens, and Muslims," it said.

In an email to the campus community Friday, Lash wrote that college leaders hoped that removing the flag "will enable us to instead focus our efforts on addressing racist, misogynistic, Islamophobic, anti-immigrant, anti-Semitic, and anti-LGBTQ rhetoric and behaviors."

He also wrote, "Some have perceived the action of lowering the flag as a commentary on the results of the presidential election - this, unequivocally, was not our intent."

The decision was met with anger, outrage and derision from many on social media.

Lash said in an interview that he is hopeful the college community will find a way to listen to one another's concerns in the next month or two while the flag is down, but acknowledged that may be difficult. "I don't think the country did it very well," he said. "I'm hoping we can as a campus."

Delusional as all HELL!mad sick ill

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Tue 11/22/16 02:46 AM

http://www.lowellsun.com/breakingnews/ci_30592390/massachusetts-college-stops-flying-american-flag-after-it

Mass. college stops flying U.S. flag after students say its a symbol of racism, hatred
By Susan Svrluga, The Washington Post
Updated: 11/21/2016 03:52:19 PM EST



The day after the election, some people at Hampshire College reacted to news of Donald Trump's victory by calling for removal of the American flag at the center of campus, saying it was a symbol of racism and hatred. That night, some lowered it. And the following night - sometime before dawn on Veterans Day - people burned it.

The flag was quickly replaced, but the college board announced it would be flown at half-staff, "both to acknowledge the grief and pain experienced by so many and to enable the full complexity of voices and experiences to be heard."

That didn't work, Jonathan Lash, the president of the small liberal-arts college in western Massachusetts said Monday.

Lowering the flag to half-staff offended many, and the backlash was immediate, especially from veterans and military families who saw it as disrespectful of the tradition of national mourning.

On Friday, Lash told the campus community that its efforts to convey respect and sorrow had had the opposite effect, and announced that the college would remove the flag entirely.

He said there is a tremendous range of views on campus, "people for whom the flag is a very powerful symbol of fear they've felt all their lives because they grew up as people of color, never feeling safe - and people for whom it's a symbol of their highest aspiration for the country.
"

Dissent over the flag's meaning has intensified nationally in recent months, with some seeing it as a symbol of unity and pride, and others as one of oppression. Lash said he was trying to find a way to allow the community to have a direct, open, respectful conversation about those contradictory ideas. He hopes removing the symbol will free people up to talk.

Similar debates are playing out on other campuses, where protests and demonstrations followed the election results, some of them with anger directed at the national symbol.

At Brown University, some students tore up and stomped on flags from an event honoring veterans last week, while others hurried to replace and protect the flags.

At American University the day after the election, students upset about Trump's victory burned flags and shouted "F-- white America!"

And at many campuses, minority students have been targeted and harassed in the days after the election, with swastikas scrawled on doors, women's hijabs yanked off, black students being called racial slurs and racist posters glued to campus walls.

In a message to the Hampshire community earlier this month, board leaders wrote that the divisions and conflicts of the presidential campaign that erupted after the election were felt acutely and personally. "On campus we have seen numerous expressions of pain, fear, anger, and vulnerability - understandable given news reports from across the country about acts of hostility and violence against people of color, immigrants, international citizens, and Muslims," it said.

In an email to the campus community Friday, Lash wrote that college leaders hoped that removing the flag "will enable us to instead focus our efforts on addressing racist, misogynistic, Islamophobic, anti-immigrant, anti-Semitic, and anti-LGBTQ rhetoric and behaviors."

He also wrote, "Some have perceived the action of lowering the flag as a commentary on the results of the presidential election - this, unequivocally, was not our intent."

The decision was met with anger, outrage and derision from many on social media.

Lash said in an interview that he is hopeful the college community will find a way to listen to one another's concerns in the next month or two while the flag is down, but acknowledged that may be difficult. "I don't think the country did it very well," he said. "I'm hoping we can as a campus."

Delusional as all HELL!mad sick ill


I agree hell is a delusion.
But what specific delusion are you comparing it too?

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 11/22/16 03:08 AM


http://www.lowellsun.com/breakingnews/ci_30592390/massachusetts-college-stops-flying-american-flag-after-it

Mass. college stops flying U.S. flag after students say its a symbol of racism, hatred
By Susan Svrluga, The Washington Post
Updated: 11/21/2016 03:52:19 PM EST



The day after the election, some people at Hampshire College reacted to news of Donald Trump's victory by calling for removal of the American flag at the center of campus, saying it was a symbol of racism and hatred. That night, some lowered it. And the following night - sometime before dawn on Veterans Day - people burned it.

The flag was quickly replaced, but the college board announced it would be flown at half-staff, "both to acknowledge the grief and pain experienced by so many and to enable the full complexity of voices and experiences to be heard."

That didn't work, Jonathan Lash, the president of the small liberal-arts college in western Massachusetts said Monday.

Lowering the flag to half-staff offended many, and the backlash was immediate, especially from veterans and military families who saw it as disrespectful of the tradition of national mourning.

On Friday, Lash told the campus community that its efforts to convey respect and sorrow had had the opposite effect, and announced that the college would remove the flag entirely.

He said there is a tremendous range of views on campus, "people for whom the flag is a very powerful symbol of fear they've felt all their lives because they grew up as people of color, never feeling safe - and people for whom it's a symbol of their highest aspiration for the country.
"

Dissent over the flag's meaning has intensified nationally in recent months, with some seeing it as a symbol of unity and pride, and others as one of oppression. Lash said he was trying to find a way to allow the community to have a direct, open, respectful conversation about those contradictory ideas. He hopes removing the symbol will free people up to talk.

Similar debates are playing out on other campuses, where protests and demonstrations followed the election results, some of them with anger directed at the national symbol.

At Brown University, some students tore up and stomped on flags from an event honoring veterans last week, while others hurried to replace and protect the flags.

At American University the day after the election, students upset about Trump's victory burned flags and shouted "F-- white America!"

And at many campuses, minority students have been targeted and harassed in the days after the election, with swastikas scrawled on doors, women's hijabs yanked off, black students being called racial slurs and racist posters glued to campus walls.

In a message to the Hampshire community earlier this month, board leaders wrote that the divisions and conflicts of the presidential campaign that erupted after the election were felt acutely and personally. "On campus we have seen numerous expressions of pain, fear, anger, and vulnerability - understandable given news reports from across the country about acts of hostility and violence against people of color, immigrants, international citizens, and Muslims," it said.

In an email to the campus community Friday, Lash wrote that college leaders hoped that removing the flag "will enable us to instead focus our efforts on addressing racist, misogynistic, Islamophobic, anti-immigrant, anti-Semitic, and anti-LGBTQ rhetoric and behaviors."

He also wrote, "Some have perceived the action of lowering the flag as a commentary on the results of the presidential election - this, unequivocally, was not our intent."

The decision was met with anger, outrage and derision from many on social media.

Lash said in an interview that he is hopeful the college community will find a way to listen to one another's concerns in the next month or two while the flag is down, but acknowledged that may be difficult. "I don't think the country did it very well," he said. "I'm hoping we can as a campus."

Delusional as all HELL!mad sick ill


I agree hell is a delusion.
But what specific delusion are you comparing it too?
read the Article!

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