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Topic: Struggle with faith
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Fri 05/04/18 10:43 PM
Edited by ReserveCorp on Fri 05/04/18 10:43 PM


Yeah you can be the pope for all I care but I still can't buy that argument.





sorry, had to step away and do my farm rounds laugh


and, i'm not trying to sell you anything. i am only showing you how the Bible has been incorrectly interpreted by what the scripture factually claim


But your interpretation is the correct one, right? whoa

iam_resurrected's photo
Fri 05/04/18 11:09 PM



Yeah you can be the pope for all I care but I still can't buy that argument.





sorry, had to step away and do my farm rounds laugh


and, i'm not trying to sell you anything. i am only showing you how the Bible has been incorrectly interpreted by what the scripture factually claim


But your interpretation is the correct one, right? whoa




it's based upon scripture. it's not just a wild guess. but i was not there when it was written to ensure this is what was specifically meant.

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Fri 05/04/18 11:41 PM

There's 4 people in the entire world at the time..adam,eve ,Cain and Abel and the Lord your God commanded offerings?

Jonah's reference counters your assumption that you should love God from the heart and not obligation. Did you think Jonah loved him from the heart or was he not compelled ?

Get the difference?


I believe we can all jump to assumptions taking bits and pieces of what we read. I would not assume there were only 4 people, being that Cain stated

Gen 4
14 Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me.”

15 But the Lord said to him, “Not so[e]; anyone who kills Cain will suffer vengeance seven times over.” Then the Lord put a mark on Cain so that no one who found him would kill him. 16 So Cain went out from the Lord’s presence and lived in the land of Nod,[f] east of Eden.


this seems to me that there were more people on the Earth than those in the story of Adam and Even and Cain and Abel

ReserveCorp's photo
Sat 05/05/18 12:44 AM


There's 4 people in the entire world at the time..adam,eve ,Cain and Abel and the Lord your God commanded offerings?

Jonah's reference counters your assumption that you should love God from the heart and not obligation. Did you think Jonah loved him from the heart or was he not compelled ?

Get the difference?


I believe we can all jump to assumptions taking bits and pieces of what we read. I would not assume there were only 4 people, being that Cain stated

Gen 4
14 Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me.”

15 But the Lord said to him, “Not so[e]; anyone who kills Cain will suffer vengeance seven times over.” Then the Lord put a mark on Cain so that no one who found him would kill him. 16 So Cain went out from the Lord’s presence and lived in the land of Nod,[f] east of Eden.

this seems to me that there were more people on the Earth than those in the story of Adam and Even and Cain and Abel



Indeed. Cain went to "the land of Nod." The Nodites (Nephilim) lived there. They were the "giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown." (Genesis 6:4)

76:2.1 Less than two years after Cain’s birth, Abel was born, the first child of Adam and Eve to be born in the second garden. When Abel grew up to the age of twelve years, he elected to be a herder; Cain had chosen to follow agriculture.

76:2.2 Now, in those days it was customary to make offerings to the priesthood of the things at hand. Herders would bring of their flocks, farmers of the fruits of the fields; and in accordance with this custom, Cain and Abel likewise made periodic offerings to the priests. The two boys had many times argued about the relative merits of their vocations, and Abel was not slow to note that preference was shown for his animal sacrifices. In vain did Cain appeal to the traditions of the first Eden, to the former preference for the fruits of the fields. But this Abel would not allow, and he taunted his older brother in his discomfiture.

76:2.3 In the days of the first Eden Adam had indeed sought to discourage the offering of animal sacrifice so that Cain had a justifiable precedent for his contentions. It was, however, difficult to organize the religious life of the second Eden. Adam was burdened with a thousand and one details associated with the work of building, defense, and agriculture. Being much depressed spiritually, he intrusted the organization of worship and education to those of Nodite extraction who had served in these capacities in the first garden; and in even so short a time the officiating Nodite priests were reverting to the standards and rulings of pre-Adamic times.

76:2.4 The two boys never got along well, and this matter of sacrifices further contributed to the growing hatred between them. Abel knew he was the son of both Adam and Eve and never failed to impress upon Cain that Adam was not his father. Cain was not pure violet as his father was of the Nodite race later admixed with the blue and the red man and with the aboriginal Andonic stock. And all of this, with Cain’s natural bellicose inheritance, caused him to nourish an ever-increasing hatred for his younger brother.

76:2.5 The boys were respectively eighteen and twenty years of age when the tension between them was finally resolved, one day, when Abel’s taunts so infuriated his bellicose brother that Cain turned upon him in wrath and slew him. -The Urantia Book

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Sat 05/05/18 12:49 PM
Yeah right sad

ReserveCorp's photo
Sat 05/05/18 01:24 PM

Yeah right sad


laugh

It is kinda funny. But true. "Truth is stranger than fiction." -Mark Twain

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Sun 05/06/18 09:51 AM

Yeah right sad






spot on :thumbsup:

the urantia crap is far gone that followers are permanently lost.

in my own research, so far i have learned those who follow the urantia are those who also believe in aliens and abductions.

which is ironic, because more scientist due to their research believe in GOD [Pew Research Poll] and have never found evidence of aliens.

so the followers of urantia according to science and the WORD of God are just making it up as they go laugh laugh laugh

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Sun 05/06/18 05:07 PM
Some of you need to see the rules specific to this forum

https://mingle2.com/topic/249614

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