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Thus it goes and here we are   I'm not finding any humor in it. me neither but it is what it is |
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Yep hope you all like working mandatory overtime, being on call, no benefits for $10.00 an hour after spending those years in college and thousands of dollars. I'm not to greedy am I? yeah back in 70s when i would listen to auto workers talk about how they would throw bolts in motors and do other stuff to mess up new vehicles there is no wonder people started buying imports very few people could buy a new car built by workers making 5 times what most people made that is why the import market took off and jump to when the auto and steel plants started closing and those worker that made 4x as much as most people couldnt get jobs that paid enough so they collected their union money till it ran out then couldnt get a job near what they where making found out what real life was like they probably would of rather made half as much and kept their good job till they didnt want it anymore instead of till they priced themselves out of it thus it goes and here we are Auto workers did not "throw bolts into motors and do other stuff to mess up new vehicles". Auto company execs loosened tolerances, used inferior materials to boost profits, and didn't pay attention to market trends, ie gas prices. People started buying imports because of price and gas mileage. When auto workers started making decent wages auto sales boomed. Read the story of Henry Ford sometime. Sales of steel and other industrial and commercial products also boomed with the rising of the general economy. Most auto workers didn't make anywhere near five times the average of other U.S. workers. welll then i guess the ones telling the of those bad acts where lying uaw members then because i heard them myself bragging of such acts as throwing bolts in motor and stealing parts from where they worked --------------------- "wages and benefits" earned by their workers. As David Leonhardt pointed out in the New York Times (countering, in a sense, the earlier piece by Sorkin), the average GM, Ford and Chrysler worker receives compensation – wages, bonuses, overtime and paid time off – of about $40 an hour. Add in benefits such as health insurance and pensions and you get to about $55. Another $15 or so in benefits to retirees (known as "legacy costs") brings the number to roughly $70. http://www.factcheck.org/2008/12/auto-worker-salaries/ -------------------------------------------------------------- Half the entire U.S. workforce now earns less than $12.67 a hour. The federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hour is about 1/3 of a middle-class wage of $21.63 an hour. Last year the average CEO earned $10.8 million and paid a lower tax rate (15%) than those middle-class steelworkers, firefighters and teachers (25%). (See tax brackets and rates here) http://bud-meyers.blogspot.com/2012/04/wages-yesterday-today-and-tomorrow.html ------------------------------------------------------- yep you were right auto worker are getting over 6 times more than most american workers |
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Sorry Folks, but once again I have to mention, that 1% of the Worlds population, have as much Wealth as the other 99%
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Edited by
alleoops
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Tue 03/28/17 03:44 PM
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Mentioning county run Parkland Hospital in Dallas.
Dated: 08/27/2015 Meet The Three New Parkland Board Members The Dallas County Commissioners this week added three new members to Parkland Health & Hospital System’s board of managers, boosting its total from seven to 10. Commissioner John Wiley Price named Marvin Earle, a man who has served as a nurse recruiter for a 400-bed teaching hospital, a labor union negotiator for an outpatient ambulatory surgical center, and marketing director for a Nashville hospital. Commissioner Elba Garcia appointed Dr. Gonzalo Venegas, who earned his medical degree from the "Universidad Nacional Autonoma de Mexico" in the early 80s before immigrating to American in 1983. He trained in Obsterics and Gynecology at UT Southwestern and practiced at Methodist Medical Center, eventually serving as chairman of its OB/GYN department. Finally, Commissioner Mike Cantrell brought on Michael D. Williams, president and CEO of the Plano-based Community Hospital Corporation. Commissioner John Wiley Price is currently on trial in Federal Court for Bribery and tax evasion. Yea, we need more government run healthcare. |
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Mentioning county run Parkland Hospital in Dallas. Dated: 08/27/2015 Meet The Three New Parkland Board Members The Dallas County Commissioners this week added three new members to Parkland Health & Hospital System’s board of managers, boosting its total from seven to 10. Commissioner John Wiley Price named Marvin Earle, a man who has served as a nurse recruiter for a 400-bed teaching hospital, a labor union negotiator for an outpatient ambulatory surgical center, and marketing director for a Nashville hospital. Commissioner Elba Garcia appointed Dr. Gonzalo Venegas, who earned his medical degree from the "Universidad Nacional Autonoma de Mexico" in the early 80s before immigrating to American in 1983. He trained in Obsterics and Gynecology at UT Southwestern and practiced at Methodist Medical Center, eventually serving as chairman of its OB/GYN department. Finally, Commissioner Mike Cantrell brought on Michael D. Williams, president and CEO of the Plano-based Community Hospital Corporation. Commissioner John Wiley Price is currently on trial in Federal Court for Bribery and tax evasion. Yea, we need more government run healthcare. Show us, please, the exact MECHANISMS that prove that government CAUSES this kind of behavior. Then explain why we find corruption just like it in private institutions as well. A sarcastic comment isn't a logical argument for or against anything. |
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You can figure it out on your own. Lot's of stories of liberal run disasters around. Knock yourself out.
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Yep hope you all like working mandatory overtime, being on call, no benefits for $10.00 an hour after spending those years in college and thousands of dollars. I'm not to greedy am I? yeah back in 70s when i would listen to auto workers talk about how they would throw bolts in motors and do other stuff to mess up new vehicles there is no wonder people started buying imports very few people could buy a new car built by workers making 5 times what most people made that is why the import market took off and jump to when the auto and steel plants started closing and those worker that made 4x as much as most people couldnt get jobs that paid enough so they collected their union money till it ran out then couldnt get a job near what they where making found out what real life was like they probably would of rather made half as much and kept their good job till they didnt want it anymore instead of till they priced themselves out of it thus it goes and here we are Auto workers did not "throw bolts into motors and do other stuff to mess up new vehicles". Auto company execs loosened tolerances, used inferior materials to boost profits, and didn't pay attention to market trends, ie gas prices. People started buying imports because of price and gas mileage. When auto workers started making decent wages auto sales boomed. Read the story of Henry Ford sometime. Sales of steel and other industrial and commercial products also boomed with the rising of the general economy. Most auto workers didn't make anywhere near five times the average of other U.S. workers. welll then i guess the ones telling the of those bad acts where lying uaw members then because i heard them myself bragging of such acts as throwing bolts in motor and stealing parts from where they worked --------------------- "wages and benefits" earned by their workers. As David Leonhardt pointed out in the New York Times (countering, in a sense, the earlier piece by Sorkin), the average GM, Ford and Chrysler worker receives compensation – wages, bonuses, overtime and paid time off – of about $40 an hour. Add in benefits such as health insurance and pensions and you get to about $55. Another $15 or so in benefits to retirees (known as "legacy costs") brings the number to roughly $70. http://www.factcheck.org/2008/12/auto-worker-salaries/ -------------------------------------------------------------- Half the entire U.S. workforce now earns less than $12.67 a hour. The federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hour is about 1/3 of a middle-class wage of $21.63 an hour. Last year the average CEO earned $10.8 million and paid a lower tax rate (15%) than those middle-class steelworkers, firefighters and teachers (25%). (See tax brackets and rates here) http://bud-meyers.blogspot.com/2012/04/wages-yesterday-today-and-tomorrow.html ------------------------------------------------------- yep you were right auto worker are getting over 6 times more than most american workers Sometime CEOs make over 20 million a year. And your $70 an hour is an exaggerated figure this day and age especially with the crap insurance they provide now. So just because everyone else makes $12 an hour that's what everyone should make. Sounds just like the words of a CEO. I can't justify paying employees more than the average wage gotta stay competitive! |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Wed 03/29/17 08:11 AM
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the average can be misleading with wages because the difference between the high end and low end can be so vast,,,,, and it includes those with entry level wages and those with seniority and significant time in the company as well,,,,
if we compare the average cited with the 'average' american wage, it is not 6 times more either,,, According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the average American worker got paid $24.57 per hour in December, or $850.12 per week. That was up from $24.17 per hour and $829.03 per week a year ago. However, average income can be misleading given that wages differ significantly from industry to industry.Jan 18, 2015 https://www.fool.com/investing/general/2015/01/18/how-does-your-income-stack-up-against-the-average.aspx |
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