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What amazes me, is that most of us, where ever we live-see it for what it is, but for some unexplained reason the powers that be,still insist in treating these B------s with kid gloves, mind you I don't think he will need much help when he tries to hang himself
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It is always a tragedy when such crimes occur.
And since, as someone above pointed out, these crimes happen in all cultures and religions, there is no support for making any political points about it. The best that can be done, is to appreciate that another of these horrible people has been stopped. |
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It is always a tragedy when such crimes occur. And since, as someone above pointed out, these crimes happen in all cultures and religions, there is no support for making any political points about it. The best that can be done, is to appreciate that another of these horrible people has been stopped. When I posted this topic I may have been even think of the other religious people who have done the same, but previous comments and yours remind me of the others who have committed similar acts. All religions are about control and power and some of the one's in authority use it to for there own gain. The stupid sheep following these religions put there children at risk for there own stupid beliefs. |
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I agree Igor,
The trouble is, as I mentioned earlier, in the UK he can be out in 5 years, even less if he is a super good boy,HAL AL Menu, the rehab doesn't work, and when he does get out, he jumps the housing line,anonymity put in place,different ID, total benefits for him and his family,and what do we think he will be getting up to with all the spare time on his hands,it happens all to often,when the Criminal gets better treatment than the victim,and yes it is right across the divide of all cultures and religions, I just wonder how his victims will be treated,when they apply for social housing, the truth is,it's a F-----g joke. |
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Sat 07/08/17 07:59 AM
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I agree Igor, The trouble is, as I mentioned earlier, in the UK he can be out in 5 years, even less if he is a super good boy,HAL AL Menu, the rehab doesn't work, and when he does get out, he jumps the housing line,anonymity put in place,different ID, total benefits for him and his family,and what do we think he will be getting up to with all the spare time on his hands,it happens all to often,when the Criminal gets better treatment than the victim,and yes it is right across the divide of all cultures and religions, I just wonder how his victims will be treated,when they apply for social housing, the truth is,it's a F-----g joke. I think they have said he has to serve a minimum of 7 years. And thanks to the human rights brigade and all the do gooders prison has become a luxury and not a penalty! He's 83 I think so hopefully he'll die before he gets released! |
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I have seen here as well, that some crimes like this, are not punished or otherwise dealt with (I am actually opposed to PUNISHMENT per se, I'm more cold-hearted about such things) nearly as much and as thoroughly as they ought to be.
No one ACCIDENTALLY abuses small children like this. I've seen how all manner of abusers find their own favored cover stories for what I am convinced that they know is wrong. To my thinking, there is no way that someone who commits any crime, and is only sorry that they were caught, should be allowed to go back into free society. |
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Igor, I don't know how the Law works in the States,but in the UK we have had cases where BABY'S had been Raped, beaten to death, starved,burnt with Cigarettes,and because the offenders were on drugs, they claim,Diminished Responsibility,and are getting away with paltry sentences,the Law-I am afraid to say has got a lot to answer for,it's all very well patting ourselves on the back for not having the death penalty, and I am not really sure that it would be a proper deterrent to most of the idiots that are intent on blowing themselves up anyway,but it would certainly take this filth out of society,stop clogging up the already overcrowded prisons, just get rid of them,animals treat their young better
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Igor, I don't know how the Law works in the States,but in the UK we have had cases where BABY'S had been Raped, beaten to death, starved,burnt with Cigarettes,and because the offenders were on drugs, they claim,Diminished Responsibility,and are getting away with paltry sentences,the Law-I am afraid to say has got a lot to answer for,it's all very well patting ourselves on the back for not having the death penalty, and I am not really sure that it would be a proper deterrent to most of the idiots that are intent on blowing themselves up anyway,but it would certainly take this filth out of society,stop clogging up the already overcrowded prisons, just get rid of them,animals treat their young better  I can never understand people who are against punishment? Would be interesting to see there face while they get home one day and the wife, daughter or mother is laying on the floor with there throat cut, pants around there ankles after being raped! When they catch the person responsible what would they say? Aww, come on poor lad, did your cat get run over when you were little? 
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I know prison is a punishment, but I see it more as a weeding out of those who would take away the rights of peaceful people to live without being raped, robbed, murdered or any other type of crime that they can come up with.
Maybe when some of these people are released, they could go to the neighbourhood of those who think they should get out early. See if they worry about their lives or family. |
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I know prison is a punishment, but I see it more as a weeding out of those who would take away the rights of peaceful people to live without being raped, robbed, murdered or any other type of crime that they can come up with. Maybe when some of these people are released, they could go to the neighbourhood of those who think they should get out early. See if they worry about their lives or family.
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I know prison is a punishment, but I see it more as a weeding out of those who would take away the rights of peaceful people to live without being raped, robbed, murdered or any other type of crime that they can come up with. Maybe when some of these people are released, they could go to the neighbourhood of those who think they should get out early. See if they worry about their lives or family.
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can i hear an AMEN......for those catholic priests, protestant pastors and jewish rabbis, along with this muslim cleric, who are all equally adept in the art of *fleecing their flocks... Amen!
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The reason why I am overall opposed to PUNISHMENT per se, is precisely because I too have seen too many cases of the most vile acts being "punished" by the legal system, with nothing at all positive resulting.
For one thing, people who do such things are never caused to become valuable members of society, safe to have among us. Punishment only works for people who commit crimes for the sake of personal convenience, from what I've seen. The horrid people we speak of here, respond to the threat of punishment by putting their energy into hiding what they do. And I am at least of two minds about it. Intellectually, I would have it be so that all such people who have committed anything approaching such crimes, be perhaps branded on their face, so that forever after, it would be known that they must not be trusted. I would have most of them permanently jailed. At the same time, I have had friends murdered, and I know that my emotional reaction is that I would like to carefully drive a bulldozer over the killer's bodies, and then use the machine to shove what remained into a shallow ravine for burial, or perhaps be fed to other creatures which are not a part of our food chain. But punishment, no. Punishment implies that such a person can be forgiven and redeemed. I don't personally believe that they can be. Now. If it is one day discovered that people with such proclivities in their physiology can be identified through blood or other tests, and appropriately repaired through chemistry or perhaps brain surgery, I would alter my views accordingly. In a nutshell, so to speak, these are not acts of a sane person who has made poor choices. They are creatures who are fundamentally too abnormal to have amongst the rest of us. |
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Glad you agree Igor, as you say sometimes nothing positive comes from punishing some of these so called Human beings, but there is satisfaction on behalf of the victims,for instance, if someone committed murder to one of my Family members, I would want the Altimate punishment,the chair-the rope,not the drugs, I wouldn't want them to go peacefully,so called punishment these days just turns out to be a break from their Barbarism,of course a nice way of sorting it,would be to let them loose in the neighborhood where they committed the crime,let the family have the satisfaction of deciding his fate,just send in the Authorities to clean up the mess.
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The reason why I am overall opposed to PUNISHMENT per se, is precisely because I too have seen too many cases of the most vile acts being "punished" by the legal system, with nothing at all positive resulting. For one thing, people who do such things are never caused to become valuable members of society, safe to have among us. Punishment only works for people who commit crimes for the sake of personal convenience, from what I've seen. The horrid people we speak of here, respond to the threat of punishment by putting their energy into hiding what they do. And I am at least of two minds about it. Intellectually, I would have it be so that all such people who have committed anything approaching such crimes, be perhaps branded on their face, so that forever after, it would be known that they must not be trusted. I would have most of them permanently jailed. At the same time, I have had friends murdered, and I know that my emotional reaction is that I would like to carefully drive a bulldozer over the killer's bodies, and then use the machine to shove what remained into a shallow ravine for burial, or perhaps be fed to other creatures which are not a part of our food chain. But punishment, no. Punishment implies that such a person can be forgiven and redeemed. I don't personally believe that they can be. Now. If it is one day discovered that people with such proclivities in their physiology can be identified through blood or other tests, and appropriately repaired through chemistry or perhaps brain surgery, I would alter my views accordingly. In a nutshell, so to speak, these are not acts of a sane person who has made poor choices. They are creatures who are fundamentally too abnormal to have amongst the rest of us. Yeah,Igor,Brave New World,punish People before they commit a Crime! Seems work along this line has already taken place 3/4 of a Century ago! What about those the Body Politic "can't repair"? Hartheim Castle all over again? |
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I hate it that crimes like that receive such light sentences. Its such a slap in the face for the victims and their families. Im actually grateful that the parents of these children actually believed the accusations of the young victims because in many religions , the leaders are considered to be the indisputable oracles of god , and the parents side with THEM. On a different note though, are religious leaders the only group, that seems to receive special favors in court? Arent there other groups of "privileged groups " that benefit from concessins in the legal system? eg wealthy individuals, celebrities, some political leaders etc? |
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I am also glad the parents found the strength to speak out against this monster who victimized innocent children.
You are right, there are other privileged groups that receive "special" treatment by the law and who's crimes often go unpunished. I believe when religious leader's, family member's or doctor's are the criminal's involved, there is also that element of trust, given by us all, that is violated and leaves wounds of it's own. |
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To me, it seems the rich and the ruling class can get away with a lot more. Look at the church. There have been accusations of cover ups in sexual assault cases. Then, I remember one case awhile ago, a young man got off because he had been to spoiled and did not know about consequences. It seems that whenever you watch the news, someone is able to sidestep the full force of the law.
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To me, it seems the rich and the ruling class can get away with a lot more. Look at the church. There have been accusations of cover ups in sexual assault cases. Then, I remember one case awhile ago, a young man got off because he had been to spoiled and did not know about consequences. It seems that whenever you watch the news, someone is able to sidestep the full force of the law. Spot on TV
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Yeah,Igor,Brave New World,punish People before they commit a Crime! Seems work along this line has already taken place 3/4 of a Century ago! What about those the Body Politic "can't repair"? Hartheim Castle all over again? Who said anything about punishing people before they commit a crime? |
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