Topic: COULD THERE BE ANYMORE OBSTRUCTION?
mightymoe's photo
Fri 02/16/18 01:16 PM
People always whining about Trump's tax returns... Did they forget that the IRS is part of the government? They can look at anyones tax return anytime they want....do you think the Democrats never looked? How stupid is that? Liberals all over the world are out for Trump, and you think they haven't already looked?


whoa whoa

Argo's photo
Fri 02/16/18 04:01 PM
Trump is required by law to submit his tax return to the IRS

the IRS releasing those records for the public to scrutinize
would be against the law without his permission...

those are two very different things...whoa

mightymoe's photo
Fri 02/16/18 04:40 PM

Trump is required by law to submit his tax return to the IRS

the IRS releasing those records for the public to scrutinize
would be against the law without his permission...

those are two very different things...whoa
then maybe they should arrest Trump since it's "against the law"... Glad you know so much about law, Trump is in serious trouble. .whoa

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Fri 02/16/18 05:28 PM


Trump is required by law to submit his tax return to the IRS

the IRS releasing those records for the public to scrutinize
would be against the law without his permission...

those are two very different things...whoa
then maybe they should arrest Trump since it's "against the law"... Glad you know so much about law, Trump is in serious trouble. .whoa


Yea, and don't forget the Russian thing, he's in bad trouble.ohwell

Argo's photo
Fri 02/16/18 06:18 PM
i'll try one more time and then that's it...

Trump obeyed the law by filing his return..

the IRS also is obeying the law by keeping his return private
and not releasing it to the public without his consent...

only a bumpkin who just fell off the turnip truck would think,
just because someone happens to be employed by the government
would have the authority to gain access to those returns...

not Schumer, not Pelosi, not Pence or Ryan either, nobody...

only Trump himself can volunteer them or they could be
subpoenaed by the court and that's it...

since all other presidents for the past 40 years have
willingly volunteered their tax returns without whining
about doing so....IMO Trump is hiding something, or he
would release them and shut everyones mouth about it,
including mine...


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Fri 02/16/18 06:22 PM
COULD THERE BE ANYMORE OBSTRUCTION?

I know! Right?!
How dare people be wary of McCarthyism!

I can't tell you how many times I've watched/heard/read these senate hearings or grand council interrogations or whatever and someone is grandstanding and asking questions that are simply meant to cause outrage or as part of some political game.

Might as well be:
"Yes or no, do you still enjoy beating your wife?"
"...."
"Your honor, let the record show they're not answering the question, so I must treat them as a hostile witness...I ask again, sir! Yes or no, do you enjoy beating your wife?"
"I can't answer that..."
"Come now! It's a simple question! It makes me wonder what you have to hide and why you are so hostile to these proceedings! We just want the truth! We are public servants and the American people have a right to know! So I'll rephrase! Yes or no, did the Russians offer assistance while you were enjoying beating your wife?!"
"...No?"
"So you did enjoy beating your wife and it was you who asked the Russians for assistance! I move to charge this man wife aggravated assault! How dare you! What kind of cowardly vermin beats his wife in front of his children and kicks dogs only to steal their food and feed it to their grandmother while high on heroin and groping a teenage child before driving to work at 8 a.m. with Russian involvement?! Traitor! ...Is any single part of that true?"
"Well, yes...I do go to work at..."
"He admits his perfidy! He quite probably touched a child and possibly kicked a dog! And we need greater legislation to combat the rampant heroin epidemic in this country!"

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Fri 02/16/18 07:37 PM
Edited by Integrityis1st on Fri 02/16/18 07:49 PM

People always whining about Trump's tax returns... Did they forget that the IRS is part of the government? They can look at anyones tax return anytime they want....do you think the Democrats never looked? How stupid is that? Liberals all over the world are out for Trump, and you think they haven't already looked?


whoa whoa

More like they don't like the man I worship reeling back all the legislative crap and their overreach of power. Of course the wealthiest in the world want to keep it that way, so they own the media by funding the with lots of money to push rhetoric/false narrative.
I'll leave ya with a quote:
The entire object of of true education is (make people) not merely to do the right things, but enjoy the right things-not merely industrious, but to love industry - not merely learned, but to love knowledge - not merely pure, but to love purity - not merely just, but to hunger and thirst after justice.
John Ruskin
whoa

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Fri 02/16/18 07:57 PM


Time to start peeling the Hillary onion..Now we should start seeing some indictments..Everything is pointing to no collusion and it only cost the tax payers 10 million dollars..what a bargain..eh..LOCK HER UP ..and throw away the key cuz grandma's goin' to jail..and she should have plenty of company..Now let's see if justice is gonna be fair..cuz America is watching..smile2

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Fri 02/16/18 07:59 PM


They better catch her quick before she rides out on her BROOM..:laughing:

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Fri 02/16/18 08:02 PM



Time to start peeling the Hillary onion..Now we should start seeing some indictments..Everything is pointing to no collusion and it only cost the tax payers 10 million dollars..what a bargain..eh..LOCK HER UP ..and throw away the key cuz grandma's goin' to jail..and she should have plenty of company..Now let's see if justice is gonna be fair..cuz America is watching..smile2


what did emails on a server cost taxpayers? and what will another Clinton investigation, yielding nothing, add on to what taxpayers have already paid towards the witch hunt?

There is nothing to LOCK HER UP or TRUMP up for, those who were caught with direct evidence however, like those 13 being indicted for interfering with elections wont be so lucky.

Trump isnt going to jail anymore than Hilary will, neither can be proven to have done anything that rises to the level of a crime, unless both are sent to jail for negligence, which both could be argued to have been, but which no politician has gone to jail for before

msharmony's photo
Fri 02/16/18 08:04 PM
politicians dont get imprisoned for mere negligence, at worst, they just harm their chances at being elected, or re elected.

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Fri 02/16/18 08:12 PM
Edited by alleoops on Fri 02/16/18 08:12 PM

i'll try one more time and then that's it...

Trump obeyed the law by filing his return..

the IRS also is obeying the law by keeping his return private
and not releasing it to the public without his consent...

only a bumpkin who just fell off the turnip truck would think,
just because someone happens to be employed by the government
would have the authority to gain access to those returns...

not Schumer, not Pelosi, not Pence or Ryan either, nobody...

only Trump himself can volunteer them or they could be
subpoenaed by the court and that's it...

since all other presidents for the past 40 years have
willingly volunteered their tax returns without whining
about doing so....IMO Trump is hiding something, or he
would release them and shut everyones mouth about it,
including mine...





Argo, that was a good try but the fact remains, there is NO law
requiring the POTUS to release his tax returns. If he has done
something illegal or wrong the IRS will handle it. That's
what they do. And Trump is NOT the first POTUS to decline the
opportunity, google Gerald Ford.

msharmony's photo
Fri 02/16/18 08:20 PM


i'll try one more time and then that's it...

Trump obeyed the law by filing his return..

the IRS also is obeying the law by keeping his return private
and not releasing it to the public without his consent...

only a bumpkin who just fell off the turnip truck would think,
just because someone happens to be employed by the government
would have the authority to gain access to those returns...

not Schumer, not Pelosi, not Pence or Ryan either, nobody...

only Trump himself can volunteer them or they could be
subpoenaed by the court and that's it...

since all other presidents for the past 40 years have
willingly volunteered their tax returns without whining
about doing so....IMO Trump is hiding something, or he
would release them and shut everyones mouth about it,
including mine...





Argo, that was a good try but the fact remains, there is NO law
requiring the POTUS to release his tax returns. If he has done
something illegal or wrong the IRS will handle it. That's
what they do. And Trump is NOT the first POTUS to decline the
opportunity, google Gerald Ford.



I think he did. He said in the past 40 years. Ford assumed office in 1974, which was over 40 years ago.

no photo
Fri 02/16/18 08:45 PM
Edited by Integrityis1st on Fri 02/16/18 08:47 PM


Trump is required by law to submit his tax return to the IRS

the IRS releasing those records for the public to scrutinize
would be against the law without his permission...

those are two very different things...whoa
then maybe they should arrest Trump since it's "against the law"... Glad you know so much about law, Trump is in serious trouble. .whoa

Been in trouble since the start.

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Fri 02/16/18 08:45 PM



Hopefully they'll be able to figure out a way to charge her with treason..smile2

msharmony's photo
Fri 02/16/18 08:48 PM
Keep hoping.

US Constitution, Article 3 section 3

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

doesnt sound like having email on the wrong server will rise to the case ... but who knows.

no photo
Fri 02/16/18 09:00 PM


We'll see..still pretty much a waiting game ..as we watch the spin off..hopefully this proves to be as interesting if nothing else..

Argo's photo
Fri 02/16/18 09:40 PM
Edited by Argo on Fri 02/16/18 09:48 PM


i'll try one more time and then that's it...

Trump obeyed the law by filing his return..

the IRS also is obeying the law by keeping his return private
and not releasing it to the public without his consent...

only a bumpkin who just fell off the turnip truck would think,
just because someone happens to be employed by the government
would have the authority to gain access to those returns...

not Schumer, not Pelosi, not Pence or Ryan either, nobody...

only Trump himself can volunteer them or they could be
subpoenaed by the court and that's it...

since all other presidents for the past 40 years have
willingly volunteered their tax returns without whining
about doing so....IMO Trump is hiding something, or he
would release them and shut everyones mouth about it,
including mine...





Argo, that was a good try but the fact remains, there is NO law
requiring the POTUS to release his tax returns. If he has done
something illegal or wrong the IRS will handle it. That's
what they do. And Trump is NOT the first POTUS to decline the
opportunity, google Gerald Ford.


Nixon in his famous speech "the people need to know
whether or not their President is a crook.
Well, i am not a crook. i have earned everything i have got"
holding to his word Nixon reluctantly released his
returns a week later..

Ford was never elected President, when he ran for it himself
in 1976 he did release a 10-year summary of his returns but
Carter who released his full return beat him anyway...

so from Nixon in 1973 until the present, 45 years later
Trump is the one and only who has declined to volunteer
any returns whatsoever...take note Nixon, Ford and Trump
ALL Republicans...




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Fri 02/16/18 09:52 PM
That is all true, they all felt that was the thing to do.
Apparently Trump doesn't so he will be the first not to
do so. Maybe he will start a new trend.

Argo's photo
Fri 02/16/18 09:57 PM
Trump is a Bum....maybe he'll start another trend
like grabbin' woman by their genitals or mocking
the handicapped or insulting POW's.... need i go on ???