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Topic: Trump- 25% tariff on all steel imports
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Sun 03/04/18 03:29 AM
The tariffs will lead manufacturers to purchase more US steel and aluminum versus inferior Chinese steel and aluminum.

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Mon 03/12/18 06:34 PM
Tariffs finally launched, but with exemptions for Mexico and Canada, the two largest exporters to the US.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/03/trumps-tariffs-amount-to-symbolism-not-substance-thank-god/

Republicans don't like tariffs, and they got Trump to back down.

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Mon 03/12/18 07:04 PM

The tariffs will lead manufacturers to purchase more US steel and aluminum versus inferior Chinese steel and aluminum.
that's the whole point of it, but some can't see past their liberalness...

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Tue 03/13/18 04:42 AM


The tariffs will lead manufacturers to purchase more US steel and aluminum versus inferior Chinese steel and aluminum.
that's the whole point of it, but some can't see past their liberalness...


Republicans don't oppose tariffs because of their "liberalness."

Proponents of Free Market Capitalism don't oppose tariffs because they are "liberal."

Since at least 1980, the Republican "solution" to low cost imports of anything, has been to drive wages and benefits down.

If anything, the people on that end of the political spectrum see tariffs as a "liberal" idea.

Oh, and by the way, there is no evidence that Chinese steel and aluminum is "inferior."

And more significant, Chinese imports of those materials are only ONE PERCENT of what America brings in. Most of what we import comes from Canada and Mexico.

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Tue 03/13/18 05:30 AM



The tariffs will lead manufacturers to purchase more US steel and aluminum versus inferior Chinese steel and aluminum.
that's the whole point of it, but some can't see past their liberalness...


Republicans don't oppose tariffs because of their "liberalness."

Proponents of Free Market Capitalism don't oppose tariffs because they are "liberal."

Since at least 1980, the Republican "solution" to low cost imports of anything, has been to drive wages and benefits down.

If anything, the people on that end of the political spectrum see tariffs as a "liberal" idea.

Oh, and by the way, there is no evidence that Chinese steel and aluminum is "inferior."

And more significant, Chinese imports of those materials are only ONE PERCENT of what America brings in. Most of what we import comes from Canada and Mexico.
sorry, I'm not buying anything you say....just sit back and watch MSNBC to get spoon fed more lies...

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Tue 03/13/18 07:46 AM

It is a start if we are also paying tariffs for selling to others

now, lets impose international tax on companies that are outsourcing potential american income to other countries

that along with the additional tariff those countries charge them for their products, should keep our products 'american' and our americans better employed

Hi msharmony, we had this discussion a few months ago about cheap imports, unfortunately most people will buy the cheapest items even if they are foreign. We have suffered from cheap Chinese steel to,ruined steel towns . We do produce a purer type of steel and copper. The Chinese steel is very poor quality. The main reason for any import is price so it's kinda catch 22.

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Tue 03/13/18 09:24 AM


It is a start if we are also paying tariffs for selling to others

now, lets impose international tax on companies that are outsourcing potential american income to other countries

that along with the additional tariff those countries charge them for their products, should keep our products 'american' and our americans better employed

Hi msharmony, we had this discussion a few months ago about cheap imports, unfortunately most people will buy the cheapest items even if they are foreign. We have suffered from cheap Chinese steel to,ruined steel towns . We do produce a purer type of steel and copper. The Chinese steel is very poor quality. The main reason for any import is price so it's kinda catch 22.
I would also take it a step further and start taxing the companies that are using automated robots that took jobs away from tax paying citizens

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Tue 03/13/18 09:48 AM



It is a start if we are also paying tariffs for selling to others

now, lets impose international tax on companies that are outsourcing potential american income to other countries

that along with the additional tariff those countries charge them for their products, should keep our products 'american' and our americans better employed

Hi msharmony, we had this discussion a few months ago about cheap imports, unfortunately most people will buy the cheapest items even if they are foreign. We have suffered from cheap Chinese steel to,ruined steel towns . We do produce a purer type of steel and copper. The Chinese steel is very poor quality. The main reason for any import is price so it's kinda catch 22.
I would also take it a step further and start taxing the companies that are using automated robots that took jobs away from tax paying citizens

The car industry is a prime example of this mo.
Robots don't strike or have pensions. Unfortunately there are no "British "cars, although we make and assemble several makes, the unions saw to that years ago, constant striking! Again is down to price.
This is what I had with msharmony, example, if tomatoes are $1 a bag imported and $1.50 home grown then the majority will go for the import. Now, there could be a 25 cent tariff on that but that doesn't help job's only the government.

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Tue 03/13/18 09:48 AM
Edited by Unknow on Tue 03/13/18 09:50 AM



It is a start if we are also paying tariffs for selling to others

now, lets impose international tax on companies that are outsourcing potential american income to other countries

that along with the additional tariff those countries charge them for their products, should keep our products 'american' and our americans better employed

Hi msharmony, we had this discussion a few months ago about cheap imports, unfortunately most people will buy the cheapest items even if they are foreign. We have suffered from cheap Chinese steel to,ruined steel towns . We do produce a purer type of steel and copper. The Chinese steel is very poor quality. The main reason for any import is price so it's kinda catch 22.
I would also take it a step further and start taxing the companies that are using automated robots that took jobs away from tax paying citizens

The car industry is a prime example of this mo.
Robots don't strike or have pensions. Unfortunately there are no "British "cars, although we make and assemble several makes, the unions saw to that years ago, constant striking! Again is down to price.
This is what I had with msharmony, example, if tomatoes are $1 a bag imported and $1.50 home grown then the majority will go for the import. Now, there could be a 25 cent tariff on that but that doesn't help job's only the government. Even Boeing have thousands of parts made in China!

mightymoe's photo
Tue 03/13/18 09:56 AM




It is a start if we are also paying tariffs for selling to others

now, lets impose international tax on companies that are outsourcing potential american income to other countries

that along with the additional tariff those countries charge them for their products, should keep our products 'american' and our americans better employed

Hi msharmony, we had this discussion a few months ago about cheap imports, unfortunately most people will buy the cheapest items even if they are foreign. We have suffered from cheap Chinese steel to,ruined steel towns . We do produce a purer type of steel and copper. The Chinese steel is very poor quality. The main reason for any import is price so it's kinda catch 22.
I would also take it a step further and start taxing the companies that are using automated robots that took jobs away from tax paying citizens

The car industry is a prime example of this mo.
Robots don't strike or have pensions. Unfortunately there are no "British "cars, although we make and assemble several makes, the unions saw to that years ago, constant striking! Again is down to price.
This is what I had with msharmony, example, if tomatoes are $1 a bag imported and $1.50 home grown then the majority will go for the import. Now, there could be a 25 cent tariff on that but that doesn't help job's only the government. Even Boeing have thousands of parts made in China!
not only that, they get rid unions that cost them extra money, the robots do it faster and better, but the prices still keep going up...

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Tue 03/13/18 10:06 AM
Oh definitely, the prices never go down!
Like when they started with nuclear power stations back in the day, people were told power would be virtually free!
I often wonder how it would be if we didn't import /export and just made everything in house?

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Tue 03/13/18 10:56 AM




The tariffs will lead manufacturers to purchase more US steel and aluminum versus inferior Chinese steel and aluminum.
that's the whole point of it, but some can't see past their liberalness...


Republicans don't oppose tariffs because of their "liberalness."

Proponents of Free Market Capitalism don't oppose tariffs because they are "liberal."

Since at least 1980, the Republican "solution" to low cost imports of anything, has been to drive wages and benefits down.

If anything, the people on that end of the political spectrum see tariffs as a "liberal" idea.

Oh, and by the way, there is no evidence that Chinese steel and aluminum is "inferior."

And more significant, Chinese imports of those materials are only ONE PERCENT of what America brings in. Most of what we import comes from Canada and Mexico.
sorry, I'm not buying anything you say....just sit back and watch MSNBC to get spoon fed more lies...



I have no idea what cnbc says.

I got the information from National Review.

I understand if you prefer prejudice to information.

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Tue 03/13/18 11:10 AM
Something I have noticed in your movies is you would always see the big american cars, now it's all BMW, volvo and such like.

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Tue 03/13/18 11:58 AM

Something I have noticed in your movies is you would always see the big american cars, now it's all BMW, volvo and such like.
thanks to obarry and the libs, they're Mexican cars now... No such thing as American made cars anymore...I think Toyota has a plant over here somewhere tho...

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Tue 03/13/18 12:08 PM
Thought so. do you think they got a foot hold in the usa because of the fact you all liked the v8's low mpg cars? And there's do 2-3 times more per gallon?

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Tue 03/13/18 05:15 PM

Oh definitely, the prices never go down!
Like when they started with nuclear power stations back in the day, people were told power would be virtually free!
I often wonder how it would be if we didn't import /export and just made everything in house?

Fukashima. The latest costly environmental disaster. I guess millions of dollars and contaminated water from three reactors spewing out into the ocean for five years out weighs a little acid rain. Built on a fault line!what

Oh yeah and China has very high standards. What ever the get there hands on gets melted down.
They make sure we get the utmost quality as the are laughing all the way to the bank.

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