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Topic: Immigration Conference Committee
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Mon 01/28/19 04:55 PM
Edited by oldkid46 on Mon 01/28/19 05:02 PM
The committee meets for the first time Wednesday
Senate:
Four Republicans:

Sen. Richard Shelby of Alabama, the Senate Appropriations chairman
Sen. Shelley Moore Capito of West Virginia, the chairwoman of the Senate Homeland Security Appropriations Subcommittee
Sen. John Hoeven of North Dakota, a member of the Senate Appropriations Committee
Sen. Roy Blunt of Missouri, a member of the Senate Appropriations Committee

Three Democrats

Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont, the top Democrat on the Senate Appropriations Committee
Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois, who is the second ranking Democrat in the chamber and a member of the Appropriations Committee
Sen. Jon Tester of Montana, the top Democrat on the Senate Homeland Security Appropriations Subcommittee
House:
Six Democrats

Rep. Nita Lowey of New York, chairwoman of the House Appropriations Committee
Rep. Lucille Roybal-Allard of California, chairwoman of the House Appropriations Homeland Security Subcommittee
Rep. David Price of North Carolina, a member of the House Appropriations Homeland Security Subcommittee
Rep. Barbara Lee of California, Appropriations Committee member
Rep. Henry Cuellar of Texas, Appropriations Committee member
Rep. Pete Aguilar of California, Appropriations Committee member
Four Republicans

Rep. Kay Granger of Texas, the top Republican on the House Appropriations Committee
Rep. Chuck Fleischmann of Tennessee, the top Republican on the House Appropriations Subcommittee on Homeland Security
Rep. Tom Graves of Georgia, Appropriations Committee member
Rep. Steven Palazzo of Mississippi, Appropriations Committee member

They are going to need all the help they can find!!

msharmony's photo
Mon 01/28/19 05:01 PM
It should be interesting if they are able to find a fiscally responsible compromise that actually looks at REAL data to determine 'security' needs, and doesnt compromise other types of security and welfare to do so.


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Tue 01/29/19 07:49 PM
The estimate is there is 11 million illegal ( or undocumented for the liberals) immigrants in the US. That is more people than many of the states. Why can't they just put a bounty out for them and let the general population round them up. I would think $2k to $3k each would be a fair price, and it would save the tax payers billions in the long run. We could probably even up the bounty more if they are brought in dead instead of alive. We all know the government is terrible at handling money, so why not give the private sector the opportunity to solve the problem?

msharmony's photo
Tue 01/29/19 09:56 PM

The estimate is there is 11 million illegal ( or undocumented for the liberals) immigrants in the US. That is more people than many of the states. Why can't they just put a bounty out for them and let the general population round them up. I would think $2k to $3k each would be a fair price, and it would save the tax payers billions in the long run. We could probably even up the bounty more if they are brought in dead instead of alive. We all know the government is terrible at handling money, so why not give the private sector the opportunity to solve the problem?


I hope that is a joke. Slaves were not 'documented' for freedom. And there were bounties to solve that problem and killing as well. Documents express following a process, they dont equate to the value of human life.

Wylie's photo
Tue 01/29/19 10:03 PM
An Eisenhower wouldn't be out of the question IMHO.


The system is being bled dry by people not paying into it.

msharmony's photo
Tue 01/29/19 10:51 PM

An Eisenhower wouldn't be out of the question IMHO.


The system is being bled dry by people not paying into it.


Increased incomes would help that problem, but it is easier to scapegoat those who dont have as much to pay ....



Rock's photo
Tue 01/29/19 11:26 PM
Congress won't do jack or chit,
to curb illegal immigration.

They'll do their level best, to do nothing.
They'll call it a bill, give it a nice name,
and run soundbites for the media.

And, that's all that will happen.




oldkid46's photo
Wed 01/30/19 06:55 AM

Congress won't do jack or chit,
to curb illegal immigration.

They'll do their level best, to do nothing.
They'll call it a bill, give it a nice name,
and run soundbites for the media.

And, that's all that will happen.




I hope you are very wrong!! I hope Trump won't accept such a bunch of s+it and force it back to Congressfrustrated

Wylie's photo
Wed 01/30/19 07:15 AM


An Eisenhower wouldn't be out of the question IMHO.


The system is being bled dry by people not paying into it.


Increased incomes would help that problem, but it is easier to scapegoat those who dont have as much to pay ....





Toss the soap box, illegals aren't paying into the system but manage to collect from it.

oldkid46's photo
Wed 01/30/19 07:33 AM



An Eisenhower wouldn't be out of the question IMHO.


The system is being bled dry by people not paying into it.


Increased incomes would help that problem, but it is easier to scapegoat those who dont have as much to pay ....





Toss the soap box, illegals aren't paying into the system but manage to collect from it.
Illegal workers either have fake documents or working without. If an employer receives fake documents, the employer is required to withhold Social Security and income taxes. Are you suggesting that these employers are engaged in tax fraud?

Wylie's photo
Wed 01/30/19 07:39 AM




An Eisenhower wouldn't be out of the question IMHO.


The system is being bled dry by people not paying into it.


Increased incomes would help that problem, but it is easier to scapegoat those who dont have as much to pay ....





Toss the soap box, illegals aren't paying into the system but manage to collect from it.
Illegal workers either have fake documents or working without. If an employer receives fake documents, the employer is required to withhold Social Security and income taxes. Are you suggesting that these employers are engaged in tax fraud?

So a debate on speculations made?
I'll go with too many employers fudge their taxes for $200 Bob.

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Wed 01/30/19 08:44 AM
Edited by tombraider on Wed 01/30/19 08:49 AM

In my opinion they are flooding our country with illegals and giving them our money and sending our money to foreign countries in order to break the economy at the same time flooding our government with women of color nut job socialists so that if you say anything about them they can claim you're either sexists or racists..or both..Agenda 21 people it's happening and has been for quite some time.As far as fake documents Obama' birth certificate is fake and he isn't even a naturalized citizen..

oldkid46's photo
Wed 01/30/19 09:02 AM





An Eisenhower wouldn't be out of the question IMHO.


The system is being bled dry by people not paying into it.


Increased incomes would help that problem, but it is easier to scapegoat those who dont have as much to pay ....





Toss the soap box, illegals aren't paying into the system but manage to collect from it.
Illegal workers either have fake documents or working without. If an employer receives fake documents, the employer is required to withhold Social Security and income taxes. Are you suggesting that these employers are engaged in tax fraud?

So a debate on speculations made?
I'll go with too many employers fudge their taxes for $200 Bob.
This brings us back to the E-verify system, requiring employers to use it, and significant penalties for not. I would hope that is one area the conference committee will discuss and put in the final bill.

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Wed 01/30/19 09:06 AM
Edited by tombraider on Wed 01/30/19 09:21 AM


It would be a nice thought I just don't know if we can get the pedophiles and luciferians in our government on the same page in order to accomplish that feat..after all they like all those children that are being brought over the borders by some of these illegals....not to mention it doesn't fall in line with agenda 21..and the destruction of our economy..We can't get 5 billion dollars to protect our borders when the Democtic party just overwhelmingly voted to give the European Union-NATO 1 trillion dollars to protect theirs..spock

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Wed 01/30/19 09:41 AM
Edited by tombraider on Wed 01/30/19 09:43 AM


Hang in there patriots..sources say indictments are to be unsealed next week and they are not for Trump..One for sure.. Female/treason .Q

Wylie's photo
Wed 01/30/19 10:26 AM



Hang in there patriots..sources say indictments are to be unsealed next week and they are not for Trump..One for sure.. Female/treason .Q

I'm not so sure about this Q, according to that source the indictments are only, what, 6,8 months late now?

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Wed 01/30/19 10:37 AM
Edited by tombraider on Wed 01/30/19 10:42 AM


So far all that Q has said has been happening..It's all a wait and see ..altho it does correlate with when the SOTU comes out..If you follow Q you can see a lot of what has been said has happened..could it be smoke and mirrors..from what I've seen it could all be that.including the Russian Collusion investigation..

This could all be a BIG SHOW..especially when we can all see how guilty Hillary is and nothing has happened..Alot of this is going through military tribunals..not leaking this info out when it first happens..Brennan and Comey have been indicted..has anyone heard that.Truth is it's all a wait and see..I also heard that the Brennan and Comey indictment info will come out in a couple of weeks..again we'll see..

Wylie's photo
Wed 01/30/19 10:43 AM
Edited by Wylie on Wed 01/30/19 11:05 AM



This could all be a BIG SHOW

It's just a Roman Circus with cake for everyone if you ask me. And yeah I know the cake wasn't a real thing which just makes it more fitting IMHO.
Here
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-astore/bread-and-circuses-in-rom_b_3414248.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_them_eat_cake


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Wed 01/30/19 11:08 AM
Edited by tombraider on Wed 01/30/19 11:09 AM

It all could be just a BIG SHOW to confuse the masses..the one thing I don't get is why is Hillary not in jail..and we know that the FISA warrant was illegaly obtained so how can they continue with the investigation..Some say that Q is short for Qanon ..military intelligence..time will tell .I hate to think that no one is investigating Hillary and she is going to get away with her crimes.. especially If we look at what the NYPD found on A.Weiner's laptop..How much of everything we know is lies..we do know that the main stream media has been lying to us for years if we look at Operation Mockingbird and what William Casey ex director of the CIA has said..So it's any one's guess..Time will tell .

Wylie's photo
Wed 01/30/19 11:34 AM


It all could be just a BIG SHOW to confuse the masses..the one thing I don't get is why is Hillary not in jail..and we know that the FISA warrant was illegaly obtained so how can they continue with the investigation..Some say that Q is short for Qanon ..military intelligence..time will tell .I hate to think that no one is investigating Hillary and she is going to get away with her crimes.. especially If we look at what the NYPD found on A.Weiner's laptop..How much of everything we know is lies..we do know that the main stream media has been lying to us for years if we look at Operation Mockingbird and what William Casey ex director of the CIA has said..So it's any one's guess..Time will tell .

There's no way in hell I'll ever claim to have all the answers. What I do know is that this country is not run by the people for the people and hasn't been for many decades if not since origin.

The military industrial complex isn't going to cut off it's own foot nor will the corporations that fund their own interests through the actions of the militants and other "policing" agencies.

It's long been known our media is fed to us with the interests of the elite whom literally get away with murder as long as they fill the rolls needed by the serious money.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWVgDLDNp5w




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