Topic: Redacted Tonight ...adult language :>)
mysticalview21's photo
Fri 02/01/19 06:14 PM
laugh


This was really good ... very interesting ... noway
although I think they hired more lighting this yr ... laugh
with that man made weather :thumbsup:


https://youtu.be/BLkzE8-tQyk

petenh's photo
Sun 02/03/19 02:37 PM
Interesting show.

For the folks who don't think that the Russians are NOT active on American social media, Wikipedia states quite succinctly that RT is a Russian propaganda outlet, funded by Putin's team to create an "Alternative facts" source. YouTube actually has a banner on that URL that refers the reader to the Wikipedia article on RT, such a comment by YouTube is something I have not seen on other YouTube pages.

As we know Trump watches more TV than any previous president, (he is also the least read president of the 45, another superlative, albeit embarrassing, for him.) I wonder if this is one of the shows Trump has enjoyed watching every week since it has been on?


Wylie's photo
Sun 02/03/19 03:10 PM
Edited by Wylie on Sun 02/03/19 03:20 PM
Filmed in the early 80s, kinda spooky now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gnpCqsXE8g&t=552s

Redacted I appreciate to an extent, reason being they could use some more depth in the research department sometimes. Great satire though.

petenh's photo
Sun 02/03/19 03:58 PM
In the Wikipedia article, it mentioned that John Kerry went after them when he was Sec of State, I believe, for their "misleading" facts.

But then again, that is what propaganda is meant to do.

Russian propaganda on American airwaves and social media. Scary.

Wylie's photo
Sun 02/03/19 04:07 PM
Edited by Wylie on Sun 02/03/19 04:47 PM

In the Wikipedia article, it mentioned that John Kerry went after them when he was Sec of State, I believe, for their "misleading" facts.

But then again, that is what propaganda is meant to do.

Russian propaganda on American airwaves and social media. Scary.

I understand what you're saying although we have our own propaganda as well.

Just one point, the Gulf of Tonkin incident and the declassified information that has surfaced. There are far too many surfacing to argue with all of them anymore IMHO.

Edit: Here's another
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzeHpf3OYQY&t=656s

petenh's photo
Sun 02/03/19 05:16 PM


In the Wikipedia article, it mentioned that John Kerry went after them when he was Sec of State, I believe, for their "misleading" facts.

But then again, that is what propaganda is meant to do.

Russian propaganda on American airwaves and social media. Scary.

I understand what you're saying although we have our own propaganda as well.

Just one point, the Gulf of Tonkin incident and the declassified information that has surfaced. There are far too many surfacing to argue with all of them anymore IMHO.

Edit: Here's another
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzeHpf3OYQY&t=656s


Wow, a 90 minute one and a 3 hour one, I will have to take some time and watch those. Like you say, those are old videos, looks like both in the 80s?

The stuff from the OP is not 40 years old, it is on social media and carried by Comcast. And people are reacting to it (in the YouTube comments) like it is objective news. Does this not scare you that the Russians on our social media might be influencing the stupider people in this country about what to think?

Wylie's photo
Sun 02/03/19 05:42 PM
Edited by Wylie on Sun 02/03/19 05:59 PM



In the Wikipedia article, it mentioned that John Kerry went after them when he was Sec of State, I believe, for their "misleading" facts.

But then again, that is what propaganda is meant to do.

Russian propaganda on American airwaves and social media. Scary.

I understand what you're saying although we have our own propaganda as well.

Just one point, the Gulf of Tonkin incident and the declassified information that has surfaced. There are far too many surfacing to argue with all of them anymore IMHO.

Edit: Here's another
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzeHpf3OYQY&t=656s


Wow, a 90 minute one and a 3 hour one, I will have to take some time and watch those. Like you say, those are old videos, looks like both in the 80s?

The stuff from the OP is not 40 years old, it is on social media and carried by Comcast. And people are reacting to it (in the YouTube comments) like it is objective news. Does this not scare you that the Russians on our social media might be influencing the stupider people in this country about what to think?

I believe they are both from the 80s, yes.

I didn't know Redacted was that old, or are you referring to the news base within the story. Edit, I misread, your post.

Key point that should really be mentioned is in the beginning of each show they state that the program is comedy. Subjective reasoning/critical thinking isn't so well taught in our educational system anymore, I'll give you that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EywxzHBwofM&feature=youtu.be

May I ask an opinion on a book that has all but been abolished?
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-phoenix-program-douglas-valentine/1119574645?ean=9781497620209&st=PLA&sid=BNB_NOOK+EBooks&sourceId=PLAGoNA&dpid=tdtve346c&2sid=Google_c&gclid=CjwKCAiAv9riBRANEiwA9Dqv1SQKA5yhkEAuvVu7uTrGOGlG8mCqpq3ufTz1F9U0hsyWPm2e7vjKZhoCSxIQAvD_BwE

petenh's photo
Sun 02/03/19 06:28 PM
I will put your book on the list. Currently reading a VERY scary book called "The Fifth Risk", by Michael Lewis. I wish it was fiction.

A book everyone on this forum should read is "Factfulness" by Rosling. It will show you how folks are manipulating you.

As far as Redacted, the RT used to stand for Russia Today. It might pretend it is comedy, but judging by the comments underneath, a lot of folks are not getting the "Comedy" of it, but sucking up the propaganda as fact

Wylie's photo
Sun 02/03/19 06:43 PM

I will put your book on the list. Currently reading a VERY scary book called "The Fifth Risk", by Michael Lewis. I wish it was fiction.

A book everyone on this forum should read is "Factfulness" by Rosling. It will show you how folks are manipulating you.

As far as Redacted, the RT used to stand for Russia Today. It might pretend it is comedy, but judging by the comments underneath, a lot of folks are not getting the "Comedy" of it, but sucking up the propaganda as fact


The corruption's far to deep to matter if they even knew what they were doing at this point IMHO.

Phoenix Program is very much akin to the book you've mentioned. Taking our freedoms and liberties by means of fear and manipulation, only it is an example of how it worked in Vietnam.

As far as Redacted, utilize it for what's it's worth, any and all information gained can be of some value at some point if you ask me.



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Mon 02/04/19 04:54 PM
I believe RT America...

mostly all of their shows ... are good ... I do not believe they are fake news at all ... they can say what the corporate media can't ... that is the big difference ... and is a preference ... or choice smile2



there really in turn to whats happens in the USA ... most all are Canadian or American Journalist ... their now talking about New knowledge... that show is propaganda also... trying to hurt new comers in politics ... never heard of it ... till now ...


I like Chris Hedges reporting ... on RT & ...
https://www.truthdig.com/author/chris_hedges/




thanks for your comments ...

petenh's photo
Mon 02/04/19 06:15 PM

I believe RT America...

mostly all of their shows ... are good ... I do not believe they are fake news at all ... they can say what the corporate media can't ... that is the big difference ... and is a preference ... or choice smile2



there really in turn to whats happens in the USA ... most all are Canadian or American Journalist ... their now talking about New knowledge... that show is propaganda also... trying to hurt new comers in politics ... never heard of it ... till now ...


I like Chris Hedges reporting ... on RT & ...
https://www.truthdig.com/author/chris_hedges/




thanks for your comments ...


I did not say they were fake news, I said they are proven RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA aimed directly at Americans too lazy to think. READ the Wikipedia link tagged at the top of the comments.

When they tell you it is proven Russian Propaganda, you understand that a foreign power is paying to pipe that in here to influence how you think? And how you vote?


Wylie's photo
Mon 02/04/19 06:40 PM

I believe RT America...

mostly all of their shows ... are good ... I do not believe they are fake news at all ... they can say what the corporate media can't ... that is the big difference ... and is a preference ... or choice smile2



there really in turn to whats happens in the USA ... most all are Canadian or American Journalist ... their now talking about New knowledge... that show is propaganda also... trying to hurt new comers in politics ... never heard of it ... till now ...


I like Chris Hedges reporting ... on RT & ...
https://www.truthdig.com/author/chris_hedges/




thanks for your comments ...


:thumbsup:

Wylie's photo
Wed 02/06/19 12:10 PM
The Roman Circus defined = “bread and circuses“

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxeG1Xzi92o


https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/361674-bread-and-circuses-could-strike-down-america-like-rome

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Thu 02/07/19 07:32 PM

Interesting show.

For the folks who don't think that the Russians are NOT active on American social media, Wikipedia states quite succinctly that RT is a Russian propaganda outlet, funded by Putin's team to create an "Alternative facts" source. YouTube actually has a banner on that URL that refers the reader to the Wikipedia article on RT, such a comment by YouTube is something I have not seen on other YouTube pages.

As we know Trump watches more TV than any previous president, (he is also the least read president of the 45, another superlative, albeit embarrassing, for him.) I wonder if this is one of the shows Trump has enjoyed watching every week since it has been on?




That's not accurate. President George W. Bush was the President who watched the most TV. He would quite often even invite contestants from reality shows that he watched to the White House.