Topic: Obama needs to back off from 2020 campaign
jaish's photo
Tue 01/28/20 09:19 PM

Biden may lose, and lose heavily if President Obama supports him in the campaign trail. This is based on lesson we learnt in India.

We had Yadav, a former State Minister standing for re-election and a certain win because of his great track record. Unfortunately this time he roped in a national figure Rahul Gandhi on the campaign trial.




Rahul is the guy waving both hands. Yadav on his left.

Result, Yadav's party - less than 10% of state seats !!!

Opposition candidate, a new face, with remote support from Delhi - 80 %

These days Rahul stays off state election campaigns.


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Tue 01/28/20 09:24 PM
Huh?

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Tue 01/28/20 09:32 PM
I'm gonna second that.....Huh?

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Tue 01/28/20 09:49 PM
You knows nothing about America politics. You are completely and absolutely wrong about President Obama. President Obama is by far the saving grace of the democratic process in United States. Joe Biden needs his support to maintain and the black vote as well as the working class vote

jaish's photo
Tue 01/28/20 10:51 PM

Welcome to Mingle JoeJoe !

Hillary Clinton did the wisest thing, kept Bill off the campaign. In fact, many analysts think Bill hurt her campaign - when he latched in during the later phase.

(And of course the swing votes - after the Mueller Report.)

Obama is a legend among Democrats - that's the reason he needs to stay off.

I don't think the American voter from the industry (Black and White) wants to see the mistake repeated. So Biden may lose in the primaries itself, heavily this time.



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Tue 01/28/20 11:07 PM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 01/28/20 11:08 PM


Welcome to Mingle JoeJoe !

Hillary Clinton did the wisest thing, kept Bill off the campaign. In fact, many analysts think Bill hurt her campaign - when he latched in during the later phase.

(And of course the swing votes - after the Mueller Report.)

Obama is a legend among Democrats - that's the reason he needs to stay off.

I don't think the American voter from the industry (Black and White) wants to see the mistake repeated. So Biden may lose in the primaries itself, heavily this time.



Unlike the Clintons, who were always targeted, THe Obamas left with a legacy of integrity and achievement. There is NO reason the support of Obamas would hurt a democratic candidate except with staunch anti-democratic voters who would not vote for any democrat.


jaish's photo
Tue 01/28/20 11:25 PM



Hillary Clinton did the wisest thing, kept Bill off the campaign. In fact, many analysts think Bill hurt her campaign - when he latched in during the later phase.

(And of course the swing votes - after the Mueller Report.)

Obama is a legend among Democrats - that's the reason he needs to stay off.

I don't think the American voter from the industry (Black and White) wants to see the mistake repeated. So Biden may lose in the primaries itself, heavily this time.



Unlike the Clintons, who were always targeted, THe Obamas left with a legacy of integrity and achievement. There is NO reason the support of Obamas would hurt a democratic candidate except with staunch anti-democratic voters who would not vote for any democrat.


The prediction is for the Democrat primaries.

Berne Sanders vs Biden

Sanders wins!

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Tue 01/28/20 11:35 PM




Hillary Clinton did the wisest thing, kept Bill off the campaign. In fact, many analysts think Bill hurt her campaign - when he latched in during the later phase.

(And of course the swing votes - after the Mueller Report.)

Obama is a legend among Democrats - that's the reason he needs to stay off.

I don't think the American voter from the industry (Black and White) wants to see the mistake repeated. So Biden may lose in the primaries itself, heavily this time.



Unlike the Clintons, who were always targeted, THe Obamas left with a legacy of integrity and achievement. There is NO reason the support of Obamas would hurt a democratic candidate except with staunch anti-democratic voters who would not vote for any democrat.


The prediction is for the Democrat primaries.

Berne Sanders vs Biden

Sanders wins!




I do not go by predictions. Hilary was predicted to win. There is no crystal ball and no telling who wins. Staunch Trump supporters will only support Trump. Those putting up a democratic vote may go either way. But neither candidate will be harmed by support from Obama.

jaish's photo
Tue 01/28/20 11:54 PM

Well, this thread is because if Bolton is allowed to testify
then whether Trump is impeached or not, it will cast a larger shadow over the President.

Republicans will then subpoena Hunter Biden and down goes his father.

Sanders is left standing. (not prediction, analysis)

Rock's photo
Wed 01/29/20 03:55 AM
Former president Obonzo,
has already endorsed Elizabeth Warren
for 2020.


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Wed 01/29/20 06:50 AM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 01/29/20 06:52 AM


Well, this thread is because if Bolton is allowed to testify
then whether Trump is impeached or not, it will cast a larger shadow over the President.

Republicans will then subpoena Hunter Biden and down goes his father.

Sanders is left standing. (not prediction, analysis)
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I think you greatly misunderstand Americans and American poltics. AMericans are not following the impeachment, it is a vague partisan process where republicans will defend their candidate and democrats will oppose him and in the end nothing will change.


We are very PARTISAN. IT does not matter who the democratic nominee is to republicans who will vote republican by more than 90 percent. Those who will mostly vote democrat are democrats and they will not see an endorsement by Obama negatively.


Whether republicans find a way to make the impeachment about The Bidens or not, it is still the same. Just like nothing can be said about Trump that will change the Trump supporter mind, nothing can be said about all these distant connections to Biden that will impact democrats who support him.


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Wed 01/29/20 06:22 PM
Two More Sanders Campaign Staffers Caught on Camera, Plan ‘Militant’ Movement, ‘Extreme Action’

PETR SVAB

Two field organizers with the presidential campaign of Sen. Bernie Sanders were caught on camera in South Carolina discussing plans including “extreme action,” nationalization of large tech companies, “violence toward property,” and “abolish[ing] landlords.”

One of them, Daniel Taylor, expressed a belief that Sanders, a self-described democratic socialist, would be on board with more extreme actions akin to a revolution.

The other, Mason Baird, expressed a hope that violence against people wouldn’t be necessary, and destruction of property and intimidation by a “show of force” would suffice.

The video recordings were released by Project Veritas Action (PVA), a nonprofit that specializes in undercover reporting. The videos were part of a PVA series called “#Expose2020.” Three previous videos featured two Sanders campaign field organizers who said things such as “guillotine the rich,” “send Republicans to reeducation camps,” and “liberals get the [expletive] wall first.”

Baird was paid more than $1,800 by the Sanders campaign in September 2019. The fourth-quarter financials aren’t yet available on the Federal Election Commission website.

According to Baird, the Sanders campaign attracts people with extreme leftist views.

“I’ve canvassed with someone who is like an Anarchist, and I’ve canvassed with someone who’s more of a Marxist/Leninist, so we do attract radical, truly radical people to the campaign, but that’s obviously not outward-facing,” he said.

Part of the agenda, in Baird’s view, was to “abolish landlords” and “nationalize” large tech companies such as Google, Youtube, and Facebook.

The undercover reporter repeatedly prompted Baird to explain how the socialist agenda could be implemented over the inevitable objections of many Americans, particularly supporters of President

Donald Trump.

“We would need a federal government and labor union movement that is working together to strip power away from capitalists and preferably directing that violence toward property,” Baird said. “At the end of the day, this stuff is gonna come out through practice, through the work.”

He envisioned a “coalition” of people whose “politics fall outside of the American norm.”

“Their politics are Marxist-Leninist, they’re anarchists, so these types of folks, they have more of a mind for ‘direct action’ for engaging in politics outside of the electoral system,” Baird said.

He said he wasn’t “excited about the prospect of armed struggle,” and that killing the “landlords” would be “damaging to the soul.”

“A militant labor movement is kind of our last real chance before we try other means,” he said.

In Taylor’s view, “extreme action” would be necessary regardless of whether Sanders wins the presidency.

“We have all this momentum, where do we go after it’s over, regardless of the outcome?” he said.

“Change is not gonna happen easily, regardless. Even if Bernie is elected, change will not come swiftly or easily, so the connections that we’re making now within the campaign, and with volunteers, and at events, it’s important that we retain that regardless of the outcome. It is unfortunate that we have to make plans for extreme action, but like I said, they’re not going to give it to us, even if Bernie is elected.”

“You all look so mild-mannered, but boy you’ve got fire in your belly, don’t you?” the reporter told Taylor at one point.

“Well, I think, you know, we don’t want to scare people off, so you kinda gotta feel it out first before you get into the crazy stuff,” he replied.

As an example, he referred to a previous conversation about “more extreme organizations”

like “Antifa” and “Yellow Vests.”

“We’re kind of keeping that on the back burner for right now,” he said.

When the reporter asked whether Sanders would endorse more extreme actions, such as “a revolution,” Taylor said: “Oh yeah, he has a history of protest, and that’s what makes him so attractive to a lot of the younger people who are fed up with bureaucracy. Bernie has been out there standing on the picket lines and doing the uncomfortable stuff. And absolutely think he would endorse that kind of action because sometimes that’s what you gotta do to get it done.”

Taylor said that at least some of his motivation for helping the campaign was to spread the cause of socialism.

“For me personally, I have no problem going all-in on the campaign stuff because you are planting a seed. ... The whole socialist thing four years ago was a lot more toxic than it is today,” he said.

The Sanders campaign and Baird didn’t respond to requests for comment. An attempt to reach Taylor for comment was unsuccessful.


Daniel Taylor, field organizer for the campaign of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), was caught on hidden camera by Project Veritas Action.

SCREENSHOT VIA YOUTUBE/PROJECT VERITAS ACTION



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Mon 02/10/20 05:17 AM
Edited by mysticalview21 on Mon 02/10/20 05:21 AM

You knows nothing about America politics. You are completely and absolutely wrong about President Obama. President Obama is by far the saving grace of the democratic process in United States. Joe Biden needs his support to maintain and the black vote as well as the working class vote



laugh becouse of how trump is doing commercial...
being good to a few blacks in hope he will get the votes from them ...

thats politics at its best ... laugh people believe that ****...


can I get a ... Ha La Lu Ya !slaphead