Topic: Obama or Clinton
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Fri 02/08/08 08:50 PM

I recommend Obama over Clinton because I believe the Zionist One World Order is behind Clinton and Mc Cain both, they favor ISRAEL above America, that is why we are having the WAR. Obama is a Christian like we are and is one of WE THE PEOPLE. And is not in favor of the WAR. I believe that anyone who believes in the TALMUD is a SATANIST and they hate Jesus Christ. And they they hate your CHRISTIAN religion. But the Muslims do not hate Jesus Christ. But the FALSE JEWS hate JESUS , Revelation 2:9 and Revelation 3:9 The Zionists in our govt ,I believe are totally ruining this Country, selling us down the tubes(TREASON).(Conspiracies)They even took Christ out of xmas!Bad Dudes!!!They(TALMUD BELIEVERS) don't have any morals, they only believe in POWER< MONEY< SATAN!!They do not believe in the HEREAFTER, They believe in Money ,Power ,.and the ONE world Order. they do not believe(worship) in the God of CHRIST!!.


smo, I got to ask you something:

Are you anti-semitic?

Just wondering.

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Sun 02/10/08 12:25 PM
The Guys I am talking about are not Semetic, They only pretend to be Semetic Revelation 2:9 And Revelation 3:9

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Sun 02/10/08 08:54 PM

The Guys I am talking about are not Semetic, They only pretend to be Semetic Revelation 2:9 And Revelation 3:9


OK, thanks for clearing that up for me. huh huh huh

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Sun 02/10/08 09:02 PM
vote 4 me,

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Mon 02/11/08 06:57 PM

I recommend Obama over Clinton because I believe the Zionist One World Order is behind Clinton and Mc Cain both, they favor ISRAEL above America, that is why we are having the WAR. Obama is a Christian like we are and is one of WE THE PEOPLE. And is not in favor of the WAR. I believe that anyone who believes in the TALMUD is a SATANIST and they hate Jesus Christ. And they they hate your CHRISTIAN religion. But the Muslims do not hate Jesus Christ. But the FALSE JEWS hate JESUS , Revelation 2:9 and Revelation 3:9 The Zionists in our govt ,I believe are totally ruining this Country, selling us down the tubes(TREASON).(Conspiracies)They even took Christ out of xmas!Bad Dudes!!!They(TALMUD BELIEVERS) don't have any morals, they only believe in POWER< MONEY< SATAN!!They do not believe in the HEREAFTER, They believe in Money ,Power ,.and the ONE world Order. they do not believe(worship) in the God of CHRIST!!.


My only response to this, no candidate will win dog-catcher without the support of the Zionists, and history proves this

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Mon 02/11/08 10:21 PM
why is it when any guy downs Clinton they are accused of being sexist? Does anybody have any real reason for her to become president or is it because she is A. a democrat or B. experienced (through Bill)? I think her gun control laws bug me the most... And government control = very bad for americans.

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Tue 02/12/08 05:39 AM
Edited by leahmarie on Tue 02/12/08 05:40 AM


I think its about time that women have a place in society- a better one. Ive done excessive research on this topic and i like Hilary i really do!:smile:


If you did have extensive research you would know that women have had a high place in society for centuries, right?

Women warriors, empresses, queens, Prime Ministers, CEOs, and other very highly powerful women figures.

It's more about class than sex, always has been, and Hillary comes from the high echelons of society. What difference will she exactly bring? She will have taken the role many queens, empresses, CEOs, and Prime Ministers have before her.




Hillary does not come from "the high echelons of society," as you put it. Hillary continually lies about her origins to cover up. Or were you making a joke?

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Tue 02/12/08 12:38 PM



I think its about time that women have a place in society- a better one. Ive done excessive research on this topic and i like Hilary i really do!:smile:


If you did have extensive research you would know that women have had a high place in society for centuries, right?

Women warriors, empresses, queens, Prime Ministers, CEOs, and other very highly powerful women figures.

It's more about class than sex, always has been, and Hillary comes from the high echelons of society. What difference will she exactly bring? She will have taken the role many queens, empresses, CEOs, and Prime Ministers have before her.




Hillary does not come from "the high echelons of society," as you put it. Hillary continually lies about her origins to cover up. Or were you making a joke?


For the record, I don't believe all the conspiracy theories surrounding Hillary. Most of these are made up and the evidence does not support them.

However, I do think she made deals with the devil (the corporations) and that I do not approve of.

She blamed the Monica Lewinsky accusations on a 'vast right wing conspiracy'. Whatever you might think of the right wing, this was just not true.

She becomes defensive on the campaign trail whenever someone questions her credentials or criticizes her.

Is this someone who can take on John McCain?

I don't think so. There are too many skeletons in Hillary's closet for her to be a viable candidate.

Barack Obama has skeletons, too, but not near as many.

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Tue 02/12/08 12:42 PM
Personaly I will not vote for any polotician they have screwed this country up way beyond all my worst nightmares!!!
Vote for NO ONE!!!!!!!! Hell we the people don't realy get to pick any way it is just their way of making us think we matter by letting us vote.

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Tue 02/12/08 12:45 PM

Personaly I will not vote for any polotician they have screwed this country up way beyond all my worst nightmares!!!
Vote for NO ONE!!!!!!!! Hell we the people don't realy get to pick any way it is just their way of making us think we matter by letting us vote.


That's ok, I'll vote for you honey. happy

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Tue 02/12/08 12:51 PM
why thank you darlin I just think the government has the world all screwed up. check out puppetgov.com

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Tue 02/12/08 01:52 PM
Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them. Have you ever wondered why, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, we have deficits? Have you ever wondered why, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, we have inflation and high taxes? You and I don't propose a federal budget. The president does. You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does. You and I don't write the tax code. Congress does. You and I don't set fiscal policy. Congress does. You and I don't control monetary policy. The Federal Reserve Bank does. One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president and nine Supreme Court justices - 545 human beings out of the 300 million - are directly, legally, morally and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.



Excluded was the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered but private central bank. I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason, they have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman or a president to do one cotton- picking thing. I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes.



Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party. What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a SPEAKER, who stood up and criticized G.W. BUSH for creating deficits.



The president can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it. The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House? She is the leader of the majority party. She and fellow Democrats, not the president, can approve any budget they want. If the president vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto.



It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million cannot replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts - of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can't think of a single domestic problem, from an unfair tax code to defense over runs, that is not traceable directly to those 545 people.



When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist. If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair. If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red. If the Marines are in IRAQ, it's because they want them in IRAQ. There are no insoluble government problems.



Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power. Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exist disembodied mystical forces like "the economy," "inflation" or "politics" that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do. Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible. They, and they alone, have the power. They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses - provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees. We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess.






speaks volumes.

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Tue 02/12/08 10:22 PM
Edited by mnhiker on Tue 02/12/08 10:24 PM

Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them. Have you ever wondered why, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, we have deficits? Have you ever wondered why, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, we have inflation and high taxes? You and I don't propose a federal budget. The president does. You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does. You and I don't write the tax code. Congress does. You and I don't set fiscal policy. Congress does. You and I don't control monetary policy. The Federal Reserve Bank does. One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president and nine Supreme Court justices - 545 human beings out of the 300 million - are directly, legally, morally and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.



Excluded was the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered but private central bank. I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason, they have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman or a president to do one cotton- picking thing. I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes.



Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party. What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a SPEAKER, who stood up and criticized G.W. BUSH for creating deficits.



The president can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it. The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House? She is the leader of the majority party. She and fellow Democrats, not the president, can approve any budget they want. If the president vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto.



It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million cannot replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts - of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can't think of a single domestic problem, from an unfair tax code to defense over runs, that is not traceable directly to those 545 people.



When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist. If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair. If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red. If the Marines are in IRAQ, it's because they want them in IRAQ. There are no insoluble government problems.



Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power. Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exist disembodied mystical forces like "the economy," "inflation" or "politics" that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do. Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible. They, and they alone, have the power. They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses - provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees. We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess.






speaks volumes.


The Republicans held control of Congress for most of the Bush Administration before the Democrats. And they could have initiated a sound fiscal policy, but they didn't.

Instead they spent billions on tax breaks and giveaways for special interests as well as the billions we wasted on the Iraq War we didn't need to because senile Donald Rumsfeld screwed it up.

And many of these billions have been borrowed from China.

Which weakens our political influence with the Chinese. We can't get too tough on them for their human rights abuses when they are our bankers and we allowed secret prisons and torture in other countries.

Think about what we could have done instead with those billions the Republican-controlled Congress and Senate threw away. Loans to individuals to start their own business. Helping families pay child care expenses. Fixing roads and bridges. Use your imagination.

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Wed 02/13/08 12:35 AM
I beleive what the author of this quote was saying is it is time for the people to take back power not just a few of then like the members of congress but all people ! the author did not speak of republican or democrat not that I read any way.

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Wed 02/13/08 01:42 AM
Clinton dude

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Wed 02/13/08 01:49 AM
hey cool_chic hey are you allowed to vote?

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Wed 02/13/08 03:27 AM
I know I'm going with worst case scenarios and conspiracy theories, but let's think about what we would rather have: A Nation ruled under Radical Muslim Extremists who probably want us all dead (Obama conspiracy theory) , or a new patch of Communist China? (Clinton conspiracy Theory)

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Wed 02/13/08 04:06 AM
As far as Obama and Clinton are concerned, there is talk that she is going to pull a fast one on the Florida delegates. Additionally, Obama is hinting that the Super Delegates are going to go to Hillary, which would give Hillary the right to run as the Democratic Presidential nominee. Obama claims that if this happens, the will of the people will be supressed, meaning that the people want Obama to be the nominee and and not Hillary. Obama states this is akin to Gore winning the popular vote, but Bush being elected by virtue of the Electoral College.

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Wed 02/13/08 06:00 AM
well my take bush sucks Do we realy need another Clinton in office? and dont know much about obama

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Wed 02/13/08 06:23 AM

well my take bush sucks Do we realy need another Clinton in office? and dont know much about obama



Let me enlighten you. As if I am an expert! laugh laugh

I saw some stats on tv indicating Obama is even more liberal than Clinton. In face, Obama is one of the most liberal senators in Congress. I do not trust people who are too far to the left, or those who veer way off to the right.

Additionally in connection with Obama, I do not know if the rumors about him being a Muslim and renouncing it to become Christian so he could become successful in politics are true or false. However, I feel where there is smoke there is fire, and that is another reason I am against Obama.

Moving on to Bush, I voted for him, but regret it since I do not like his policies on Iraq. Dont' misunderstand me, I don't think we should cut and run, but Bush should be able to come up with a better plan. Also, I do not like Bush pandering to Mexico and the Hispanics with his open border policy and his North American Trade Alliance. My negativity in this respect is because Bush is not doing it for the good of America, he is doing it to court the Hispanic vote.

I have no idea which candidate I want to put in office. I am adopting a "wait and see" attitude.