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Topic: Obama or Clinton
joshyfox's photo
Wed 02/13/08 09:23 AM
I actually like Huckabee, but he doesn't seem to be popular.

Drivinmenutz's photo
Wed 02/13/08 12:02 PM
Edited by Drivinmenutz on Wed 02/13/08 12:03 PM

I actually like Huckabee, but he doesn't seem to be popular.


i kinda felt the same way about ron paul....he seemed more interested in cutting back on government interference (which is more constitutional). Everyone thought he was a nut, his ideas may have sounded extreme but we really do need to cut back on government control. Its not suprising that anyone who really believes in the constitution whole-heartedly woudn't get elected. Congress likes their power and seems to want more.

mnhiker's photo
Wed 02/13/08 10:41 PM

I beleive what the author of this quote was saying is it is time for the people to take back power not just a few of then like the members of congress but all people ! the author did not speak of republican or democrat not that I read any way.


Sorry if I misread your post.

I'm just sick of 7 years of the Bush Administration.

This country needs change, and not just change for changes sake, but real change.

The New McCarthyism isn't going to work any more.

People have woken up and have stopped drinking the koolaid.

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Thu 02/14/08 03:26 AM

Anyone watching the debate tonight....????

Looks like they have cooled their jets towards each other doesn't it....????? I bet some higher ups told them that them being at each other is turning the American People off.

Any comments...???



lemondropkid......

Noooooooooooooo, things did cool down between Hillary and Obama for a while, but they are back at each other's throats. Hillary pulled the race card again and she is determined to win. Therefore, as one of the pundits said, Hillary will not only play the race card, but also the whole deck.

As I posted earlier, my opinion is that Hillary is going to pull a fast one and grab those delegates from Florida, and she will also take the ones from Missouri, even though Obama was not on the ticket there. I predict that Hillary and Obama will come together in an almost even race. Then there will be the big battle for those 800 super delegates .... and it won't be the people of the Democratic Party who will determine who the Democratic nominee will be; it will be those 800 super delegates. As of now, Hillary has almost 250 super delegates and Obama a little less than 150. Therefore, that leaves 400 up for grabs. Oh, and guess who some of the super delegates are ...... Bill Clinton, Terry McAufe who is running Hillary's campaign, and Icky who was one of Bill's cabinet members. Wonder who they'll vote for? laugh

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Thu 02/14/08 05:42 AM
Edited by leahmarie on Thu 02/14/08 05:54 AM
Note above, I said Missouri, I meant Michigan. The reason I am mentioning Florida and Michigan is because if the delegate count of both campaigns, that is Obama and Clinton, is close by the time the convention rolls around, Florida and Michigan's combined 366 delegates will suddenly become very relevant.

Just to refresh everyone's memory about the above, when the Michigan and Florida Democratic parties moved their primaries up in the calendar in violation of the Democratic national party rules, the Democratic Party bosses decided to punish them by refusing to seat -- or count -- their delegates at the party's national convention in August. At the time, it seemed like a good move, since everyone assumed that the Michigan and Florida delegates wouldn't really matter in the nomination battle. The conventional wisdom then was that one Democratic candidate would emerge early in the contest and arrive at the convention with a comfortable margin of delegates for the nomination. However, with Hillary and Obama running neck-to-neck, I believe Hillary is going to make a grab for these delegates from Florida and Michigan to push her over Obama.




mnhiker's photo
Thu 02/14/08 11:30 AM

Note above, I said Missouri, I meant Michigan. The reason I am mentioning Florida and Michigan is because if the delegate count of both campaigns, that is Obama and Clinton, is close by the time the convention rolls around, Florida and Michigan's combined 366 delegates will suddenly become very relevant.

Just to refresh everyone's memory about the above, when the Michigan and Florida Democratic parties moved their primaries up in the calendar in violation of the Democratic national party rules, the Democratic Party bosses decided to punish them by refusing to seat -- or count -- their delegates at the party's national convention in August. At the time, it seemed like a good move, since everyone assumed that the Michigan and Florida delegates wouldn't really matter in the nomination battle. The conventional wisdom then was that one Democratic candidate would emerge early in the contest and arrive at the convention with a comfortable margin of delegates for the nomination. However, with Hillary and Obama running neck-to-neck, I believe Hillary is going to make a grab for these delegates from Florida and Michigan to push her over Obama.






Didn't they both agree that they were NOT going to go for these delegates?

Just goes to show the changing nature of the Hildebeest.

laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

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Thu 02/14/08 01:07 PM
Edited by leahmarie on Thu 02/14/08 01:13 PM


Note above, I said Missouri, I meant Michigan. The reason I am mentioning Florida and Michigan is because if the delegate count of both campaigns, that is Obama and Clinton, is close by the time the convention rolls around, Florida and Michigan's combined 366 delegates will suddenly become very relevant.

Just to refresh everyone's memory about the above, when the Michigan and Florida Democratic parties moved their primaries up in the calendar in violation of the Democratic national party rules, the Democratic Party bosses decided to punish them by refusing to seat -- or count -- their delegates at the party's national convention in August. At the time, it seemed like a good move, since everyone assumed that the Michigan and Florida delegates wouldn't really matter in the nomination battle. The conventional wisdom then was that one Democratic candidate would emerge early in the contest and arrive at the convention with a comfortable margin of delegates for the nomination. However, with Hillary and Obama running neck-to-neck, I believe Hillary is going to make a grab for these delegates from Florida and Michigan to push her over Obama.






Didn't they both agree that they were NOT going to go for these delegates?

Just goes to show the changing nature of the Hildebeest.

laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh


mnhiker..... You are right, but my supposition, again I am not stating fact, just supposition, is that since Hillary and Obama are running such a close race that since Hillary would be the one to gain, she is going to try to grab the Michigan and Florida delegates. I believe she will demand another
caucus (? spell). What do you think? Am I just whistling Dixie or do I have something solid here?

mnhiker's photo
Thu 02/14/08 08:59 PM



Note above, I said Missouri, I meant Michigan. The reason I am mentioning Florida and Michigan is because if the delegate count of both campaigns, that is Obama and Clinton, is close by the time the convention rolls around, Florida and Michigan's combined 366 delegates will suddenly become very relevant.

Just to refresh everyone's memory about the above, when the Michigan and Florida Democratic parties moved their primaries up in the calendar in violation of the Democratic national party rules, the Democratic Party bosses decided to punish them by refusing to seat -- or count -- their delegates at the party's national convention in August. At the time, it seemed like a good move, since everyone assumed that the Michigan and Florida delegates wouldn't really matter in the nomination battle. The conventional wisdom then was that one Democratic candidate would emerge early in the contest and arrive at the convention with a comfortable margin of delegates for the nomination. However, with Hillary and Obama running neck-to-neck, I believe Hillary is going to make a grab for these delegates from Florida and Michigan to push her over Obama.






Didn't they both agree that they were NOT going to go for these delegates?

Just goes to show the changing nature of the Hildebeest.

laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh


mnhiker..... You are right, but my supposition, again I am not stating fact, just supposition, is that since Hillary and Obama are running such a close race that since Hillary would be the one to gain, she is going to try to grab the Michigan and Florida delegates. I believe she will demand another
caucus (? spell). What do you think? Am I just whistling Dixie or do I have something solid here?


You could be right.

Of course, the Hildebeest is a most unpredictable animal.

Anything can happen.

There were problems with Independents voting in California's Democratic Primary.

http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/archives/2008/02/california_inde.php

Here we go again. ohwell

TheiaLynn's photo
Fri 02/15/08 10:44 AM


I beleive what the author of this quote was saying is it is time for the people to take back power not just a few of then like the members of congress but all people ! the author did not speak of republican or democrat not that I read any way.


Sorry if I misread your post.

I'm just sick of 7 years of the Bush Administration.

This country needs change, and not just change for changes sake, but real change.

The New McCarthyism isn't going to work any more.

People have woken up and have stopped drinking the koolaid.

Could not agree with you more Hey i am origionaly from Texas and I hated the first bush and now we have to deal with a second?
I hate bush !!!!!!! If i can say this and be from texas i can only imagine how the rest of the world feels about bush.

no photo
Fri 02/15/08 01:59 PM
Edited by leahmarie on Fri 02/15/08 02:00 PM

I actually like Huckabee, but he doesn't seem to be popular.


joshyfox...... Huckabee is out. He has too few delegates. McCain has the necessary delegates to win the nomination. Even if Huckabee picked up all the remaining delegates, Huckabee wouldn't have enough to get the nomination. Huckabee is not too popular now with the Republican echleon (? spell). They feel he is hurting McCain by staying in the race even though McCain has virtually won. The atmosphere is that if Huckabee doesn't drop out soon, he will ruin his future political chances.

Incidentally, did you hear that business about Huckabee going to the Cayman (? spell) Islands to give a paid speech today? CNN commentators were saying it is unheard of for a presidential candidate to stop in the middle of campaigning to go give a paid speech. Huckabee said he has to do it since the only income he generates is from paid speeches. That seems odd. I am surprised that some big firm didn't pick him up to be a spokesman or whatever. Incidentally, does Huckabee have a law degree? Can anyone answer that for me?

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