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what is god? seriously. i mean, ive grown up a penticostal christian and i really do not believe those ideas. really how can a group of books written by people trying to convert others to thier religion about thier religion, be any kind of proof. so any arguement about the bible is out the window right there. and this god is a mind blowing thing for me. i mean an all knowing, always present force that "loves" us enough to leave us alone and not reveal himself to us only damning millions every year to hell because they didnt believe he was there just sounds a litte crazy to me. i want to know others thoughts about this. and please dont use bible verses to back yourself up. to me it makes you look ignorant because the bible holds no water to me. i just want to know what YOU think.
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If I just told you what I think what difference would that make. Let me tell you what I know. I know God is real, and it seems to me you don't like that fact.
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I'm convinced that God is a human creation. He was created by man to satisfy the human need not to face death as an inevitable end to their lives. Having said that, I'll admit that I may be wrong. While there is no proof of God, there's also no proof that one doesn't exist.
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Edited by
polaritybear
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Tue 02/12/08 11:32 PM
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Yea I reckon the bible was just created as a set of rules to help keep everyone in line. As far as God being some all knowing being ready to smite us for our mistakes and make us suffer cause we dont follow his rules is kinda silly, no offense to anyone out there, but why would you wanna follow the rules of a god so shallow. Something created everything I have no idea what but I like to believe whatever it is has more depth than that. I could go on for days about this, I like open ended subjects such as this .
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i never did deny that there is a god. i have a more of a diest view of a god and not the theist view. i believe god id there. there may or may not be a heaven. but i see him as a scientist sees an organism. the scientist may be a nice and loving scientist, but it doesnt mean he is in any way personally connected to the organisms. and as i could go on for days of what i actually believe or you can basicly check out deism.com and that is my basic belief system.
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An honest enough question. I understand how "man" that made "religion" gets really rather tough to believe. And in many cases, "man" has twisted things so much, its not even truth anymore.
So lets take the "man" and the "religion" factor out of this equation. Now you just have everything in the world, space, nature, etc etc..everything that "man" has nothing to do with. Look at the trees, all the other living creatures, look at what little we understand about what is happening around us. How things grow, reproduce themselves, even look down to the cellular levels that scuentists have just discovered over the last 100 years of human existance. And we still know "jack" really about anything. Butg just by seeing what little we know now, do you reslly think all of this is happening by "accident" or just "coincidence"?? That would go against all logic. Even Einstein, before his death, stated he believed in a "master designer" of all of this. he did not mention "God" by name, but he realized all of this is not and accident or coincidence...it is "designed...and it has a "designer". That "designer" I call "God". Some others may use different terms, like "Higher Power" , etc etc. But none the less, there is someone/thing out there that made all of this and all of us. So, I understand not having faith in "amn"..I don't either. But in God, well He has already shown me enough in what He has made to make me a believer that He is around.  
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One of the few good things about religion is that everyone can choose to believe whatever her or she wishes. There is no right or wrong, and don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise. Diest views are as acceptable as any others.
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The bible exists so that when man comes to know that God is real he has a place to find out about his maker - and that is sweet!
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The problem is when ppl cling to their faith blindly and dont use common sense. Thats when violence and belief pushing get started.
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One of the few good things about religion is that everyone can choose to believe whatever her or she wishes. There is no right or wrong, and don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise. Diest views are as acceptable as any others. Such a worldly response - the world has taught you well. |
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Isn't X the mark of the beast?
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I'm convinced that God is a human creation. He was created by man to satisfy the human need not to face death as an inevitable end to their lives. Having said that, I'll admit that I may be wrong. While there is no proof of God, there's also no proof that one doesn't exist. Hmm no proof of "God"?? OK, I can understand that IF you are referring to the term "God" itself, but as to proof there is something/someone who designed and made everything we see..and don't see.. well even Einstein concluded that there was a "mster designer" to all of this..and the "proof" is everywhere in nature, space and everyplace else we, as man, don;t even know about yet (or may never know). So if you are looking for "proof" just go outside and open your eyes, ears and senses and get all the proof you need.
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I believe there is a God and that he does love me. There have been things that have happened in my life which I could not have done on my own. Call them miracles if you want, it is because of these things that have happened that were beyond my control or any other humans control that have got me to believe there is a God.
I would rather believe there is a God and die to find out that there isn't one. Rather than not believe in a God and die to find out that there is one. |
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An honest enough question. I understand how "man" that made "religion" gets really rather tough to believe. And in many cases, "man" has twisted things so much, its not even truth anymore. So lets take the "man" and the "religion" factor out of this equation. Now you just have everything in the world, space, nature, etc etc..everything that "man" has nothing to do with. Look at the trees, all the other living creatures, look at what little we understand about what is happening around us. How things grow, reproduce themselves, even look down to the cellular levels that scuentists have just discovered over the last 100 years of human existance. And we still know "jack" really about anything. Butg just by seeing what little we know now, do you reslly think all of this is happening by "accident" or just "coincidence"?? That would go against all logic. Even Einstein, before his death, stated he believed in a "master designer" of all of this. he did not mention "God" by name, but he realized all of this is not and accident or coincidence...it is "designed...and it has a "designer". That "designer" I call "God". Some others may use different terms, like "Higher Power" , etc etc. But none the less, there is someone/thing out there that made all of this and all of us. So, I understand not having faith in "amn"..I don't either. But in God, well He has already shown me enough in what He has made to make me a believer that He is around. |
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I believe there is a God and that he does love me. There have been things that have happened in my life which I could not have done on my own. Call them miracles if you want, it is because of these things that have happened that were beyond my control or any other humans control that have got me to believe there is a God. I would rather believe there is a God and die to find out that there isn't one. Rather than not believe in a God and die to find out that there is one.  may you find out before you die
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Honestly, how can we prove that the bible wasn't just written by some crazy schizophrenic who just wanted us to live the way he wanted us to? Whats to say that Little Red Riding Hood and The Bible shouldn't be in different sections because the church backs the bible, but doesn't give a hoot to little red. What if i was to pick up a random book and say "From this day forth, we live this way"? I'm a firm believer in respecting other peoples views, but IMHO, God, The bible, heaven and hell are just another work of fiction used to keep people in control and give them another few things to fear in life.
I live free, by my own creedo, one day at a time, if i was to die tomorrow, I wouldn't be seeing a "God", or a "Satan". I'd be stuck in a hole and become worm food. We control our own destinys by what we do and how we act. An Atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church. An Atheist believes that a deed must be done instead of a prayer said. An Atheist strives for involvement in life and not escape into death. He wants disease conquered, poverty vanished, war eliminated. Madalyn Murray O'Hair |
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i think there is no god and i believe that people who think there is just need something to believe in,no one can prove there is a god so people should consider different opions,(like aliens for instance)its not right but you cant say its wrong cause you or i dont know.i respect people and their religion ,but i think they`re all wrong.
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The problem is when ppl cling to their faith blindly and dont use common sense. Thats when violence and belief pushing get started. |
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Honestly, how can we prove that the bible wasn't just written by some crazy schizophrenic who just wanted us to live the way he wanted us to? Whats to say that Little Red Riding Hood and The Bible shouldn't be in different sections because the church backs the bible, but doesn't give a hoot to little red. What if i was to pick up a random book and say "From this day forth, we live this way"? I'm a firm believer in respecting other peoples views, but IMHO, God, The bible, heaven and hell are just another work of fiction used to keep people in control and give them another few things to fear in life. I live free, by my own creedo, one day at a time, if i was to die tomorrow, I wouldn't be seeing a "God", or a "Satan". I'd be stuck in a hole and become worm food. We control our own destinys by what we do and how we act. An Atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church. An Atheist believes that a deed must be done instead of a prayer said. An Atheist strives for involvement in life and not escape into death. He wants disease conquered, poverty vanished, war eliminated. Madalyn Murray O'Hair |
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Thanks, I just honestly can't see believing in something that i can't see or prove. And sitting there waiting for something is almost as useless as complaining about it.
Its all about controlling people like sheep. |
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