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| Topic: umm.. welfare, crime, gun laws & education(dems for who?) | |
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Socio-economics and the correlation with crime rates and gun laws.
AND, the top five loser states are; 1. California with 1,085,627 people on welfare (how many of those are illegal immigrants?) 2. New York with 341,004 3. Texas with 333,435 people on welfare (how many of those are illegal immigrants?) 4. Pennsylvania 207,429 5. Michigan 202,469 6. and the six man off the bench, Ohio with 188,108 Last on the list was Wyoming with a whopping 729 (Do that many people even live there? Just kidding.) Now to put this in a more fair perspective, per capita. D.C. has the honor of not only being the Capital in the US but also boast more people on welfare than any other place in America with over 7.8 people out of every 100 being on welfare (and no, that does not include the politicians) Wyoming once again is last on the list with .14 Crime stats? You ask, sure I have some crime stats. D.C. ranked the most unsafe with 1,371 violent crimes per every 100,000 people (WOW!) Safest was North Dakota Worst Cities, DC, followed by Detroit, St. Louis, Flint, Oakland Toughest place in America to purchase a fire arm? Although no US city has completely banned private possession of a handgun, Washington DC has banned any further sales within the district. The most interesting thing to me is the fact that all the elected officials who claim to be smart individuals cant even get a grasp on whats happening in their own back yard, and they dare to preach (yes both sides, but- dems more than repubs on guns, dems more than repubs on welfare) I will say this, with the highest drop out rate in America coming from Louisiana at 12%, DC has some smart welfare recipients and criminal elements at a 6% drop out rate. There is some hidden messages in here if you chose to analyze it…. Why work if you know you’re getting a check for free… why put forth the effort to get a job when you can just go out and steal whatever you want? Continuing to not be held accountable for your actions, or responsible for your welfare (as a whole, not pointing fingers at anyone or group of people) will leave this country with more DC’s than it know what to do with. Creating what, do you think? Remember when the cold war finally ended and the stories started coming out of mother Russia? Its been said ‘killing you from the inside’. I don’t think all democrats are innately bad people, I just think that the kool aid from Russia taste bad. Figures courtesy of the Administration of Children and Families (I didn’t even know we had one of those until I started looking for this info.) and the FBI, the numbers may be a bit skewed do to the fact that the latest data available from ACF was from 2004(or that I could find anyway). Peace DOC |
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The ones in Wyoming are all cow hands,
they work on Cheney's ranch.  Socio-economics and the correlation with crime rates and gun laws. AND, the top five loser states are; 1. California with 1,085,627 people on welfare (how many of those are illegal immigrants?) 2. New York with 341,004 3. Texas with 333,435 people on welfare (how many of those are illegal immigrants?) 4. Pennsylvania 207,429 5. Michigan 202,469 6. and the six man off the bench, Ohio with 188,108 Last on the list was Wyoming with a whopping 729 (Do that many people even live there? Just kidding.) Now to put this in a more fair perspective, per capita. D.C. has the honor of not only being the Capital in the US but also boast more people on welfare than any other place in America with over 7.8 people out of every 100 being on welfare (and no, that does not include the politicians) Wyoming once again is last on the list with .14 Crime stats? You ask, sure I have some crime stats. D.C. ranked the most unsafe with 1,371 violent crimes per every 100,000 people (WOW!) Safest was North Dakota Worst Cities, DC, followed by Detroit, St. Louis, Flint, Oakland Toughest place in America to purchase a fire arm? Although no US city has completely banned private possession of a handgun, Washington DC has banned any further sales within the district. The most interesting thing to me is the fact that all the elected officials who claim to be smart individuals cant even get a grasp on whats happening in their own back yard, and they dare to preach (yes both sides, but- dems more than repubs on guns, dems more than repubs on welfare) I will say this, with the highest drop out rate in America coming from Louisiana at 12%, DC has some smart welfare recipients and criminal elements at a 6% drop out rate. There is some hidden messages in here if you chose to analyze it…. Why work if you know you’re getting a check for free… why put forth the effort to get a job when you can just go out and steal whatever you want? Continuing to not be held accountable for your actions, or responsible for your welfare (as a whole, not pointing fingers at anyone or group of people) will leave this country with more DC’s than it know what to do with. Creating what, do you think? Remember when the cold war finally ended and the stories started coming out of mother Russia? Its been said ‘killing you from the inside’. I don’t think all democrats are innately bad people, I just think that the kool aid from Russia taste bad. Figures courtesy of the Administration of Children and Families (I didn’t even know we had one of those until I started looking for this info.) and the FBI, the numbers may be a bit skewed do to the fact that the latest data available from ACF was from 2004(or that I could find anyway). Peace DOC |
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Edited by
timp_2
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Tue 03/11/08 02:34 AM
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woo! we're #4! we're #4!
i'm sure it has something to do with the relation of biggest cities in the country... 5 highest populated cities in the country are: 1) NYC, NY 2) Los Angeles, CA 3) Chicago, IL 4) Houston, TX 5) Philadelphia, PA so in that is 4 of the top 5 from the original post... also, due to its high crime rate per population, you're much more likely to be killed in Washington DC than you are in Afganistan... which I found interesting when I came across it a while back... I forget what the exact numbers were... |
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well Im not a big fan of using stats to support a point since everyone can agree that you can twist numbers around to fit any agenda. But certainly the more people you have in one place the more of a burden they are going to be and the less resources available overall for everyone else, which is why you can get more services in Wyoming than you can in California. However if you are an undocumented alien you cant get jack $hit anywhere.
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well Im not a big fan of using stats to support a point since everyone can agree that you can twist numbers around to fit any agenda. But certainly the more people you have in one place the more of a burden they are going to be and the less resources available overall for everyone else, which is why you can get more services in Wyoming than you can in California. However if you are an undocumented alien you cant get jack $hit anywhere. well actually, since you left the country and havent been here for awhile, let me clue you in to something.... they can get jack and they do get jack even if some of it comes with $hit!!!! I dont like numbers either, but when you face a crowd who thinks that just because they believe a certian way it is a fact, sometimes you just have to slap them around a little until the fairy tales jar lose. 
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well Im not a big fan of using stats to support a point since everyone can agree that you can twist numbers around to fit any agenda. But certainly the more people you have in one place the more of a burden they are going to be and the less resources available overall for everyone else, which is why you can get more services in Wyoming than you can in California. However if you are an undocumented alien you cant get jack $hit anywhere. not a correct assumption http://www.justsayhi.com/topic/show/91955 |
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well Im not a big fan of using stats to support a point since everyone can agree that you can twist numbers around to fit any agenda. But certainly the more people you have in one place the more of a burden they are going to be and the less resources available overall for everyone else, which is why you can get more services in Wyoming than you can in California. However if you are an undocumented alien you cant get jack $hit anywhere. symbelmyne.... Having more people in one place doesn't always mean more of a burden and less resources available overall for everyone else. Sometimes the more people there are means more taxes being paid and more money to provide resources for the group, especially since government usually helps out, whether it be State, Local or Federal. Example: I was raised Catholic and lived in a parish that was very crowded, but it was an affluent parish and the people contributed generously. Consequently, when I went to a private high school, my parents didn't have to pay tuition since our parish had so many people contributing that there was plenty of money left over and it was used to pay the tuition of the parish children. Other times, if you have a lot of poor people in an area and no taxes being paid, then there can be less resources available. Example is another pertaining to education: The border cities .... children of illegals overflooding the school system .... not enough schools since not enough people paying taxes .... trailers being used as classrooms in some instances. |
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Edited by
symbelmyne
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Wed 03/12/08 08:08 AM
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I left just 3 years ago, things havent changed that much...I lived in California, Arizona, Colorado, Wyoming, New Mexico (just to name a few places...yes I got around
 ) And speaking from my own experiences I noticed that the lower the population the greater the resources available to people. And as for what undocumented aliens could receive in benefits, I know that non-resident/citizen women who had children that were born in the US received minimal assistance for their children only. Food stamps have been replaced in most states with a "debit-type" card in order to eliminate the trading of stamps for cash. Undocumented males get nothing..there are non-profit and religious organizations that provide assistance to the needy regardless of immigration status out of humanitarian principals. I am curious if anyone can list out exactly what "benefits" undocumented aliens receive...aside from what I just mentioned I am unaware of anything else that the Feds provide...individual states may have their own policies, but that varies from state to state. |
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I left just 3 years ago, things havent changed that much...I lived in California, Arizona, Colorado, Wyoming, New Mexico (just to name a few places...yes I got around ) And speaking from my own experiences I noticed that the lower the population the greater the resources available to people. And as for what undocumented aliens could receive in benefits, I know that non-resident/citizen women who had children that were born in the US received minimal assistance for their children only. Food stamps have been replaced in most states with a "debit-type" card in order to eliminate the trading of stamps for cash. Undocumented males get nothing..there are non-profit and religious organizations that provide assistance to the needy regardless of immigration status out of humanitarian principals. I am curious if anyone can list out exactly what "benefits" undocumented aliens receive...aside from what I just mentioned I am unaware of anything else that the Feds provide...individual states may have their own policies, but that varies from state to state. Again, a lot depends on the socioeconomic status of the people rather than the plus or minus of the population as to services or resources available. It is all about how much money is being paid in taxes since in some instances what the Federal government provides has to do with taxes generated by the state. Note, I said "in some instances." "Minimal" assistance for children is pretty good since it gets into cash assistance, food stamps, medicade (? spell) the WIC program and if anyone member of a family is on any type of welfare, other types of benefits apply such as the LIHEAP and some others. I get a taxpayer guide from my state senator and state rep once a month and a lot of freebie stuff is outlined in the brochures. You state it correctly .... each individual state has its own rules and regulations as to what it will give for illegals. |
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