Topic: Places to meet
moman65672's photo
Mon 03/31/08 05:04 PM



Can't be that, because I don't drink and I don't date guys who drink..hmmm
Like one glass of wine is drinking please. see your already trying to change me.sad


one glass is drinking if you are an alcoholic. I don't date men who drink; go ahead and drink. I won't try to change you. My other brother drinks.
I have to follow my dr orders he say one glass of wine is good for my heart, so just consider it medicine. there is drinking and there is getting drunk. you can have one glass without getting drunk. well maybe you cant I dont really know.

hikerchick's photo
Mon 03/31/08 05:10 PM




Can't be that, because I don't drink and I don't date guys who drink..hmmm
Like one glass of wine is drinking please. see your already trying to change me.sad


one glass is drinking if you are an alcoholic. I don't date men who drink; go ahead and drink. I won't try to change you. My other brother drinks.
I have to follow my dr orders he say one glass of wine is good for my heart, so just consider it medicine. there is drinking and there is getting drunk. you can have one glass without getting drunk. well maybe you cant I dont really know.


an alcoholic cannot have "one drink". An alcoholic cannot drink at all. I don't drink and I don't date men who drink. I don't judge people who drink, I have friends and family members who drink. I don't date men who drink at all.

moman65672's photo
Mon 03/31/08 05:22 PM





Can't be that, because I don't drink and I don't date guys who drink..hmmm
Like one glass of wine is drinking please. see your already trying to change me.sad


one glass is drinking if you are an alcoholic. I don't date men who drink; go ahead and drink. I won't try to change you. My other brother drinks.
I have to follow my dr orders he say one glass of wine is good for my heart, so just consider it medicine. there is drinking and there is getting drunk. you can have one glass without getting drunk. well maybe you cant I dont really know.


an alcoholic cannot have "one drink". An alcoholic cannot drink at all. I don't drink and I don't date men who drink. I don't judge people who drink, I have friends and family members who drink. I don't date men who drink at all.
wait a minute are you saying your a alcoholic thats why you cant drink one drink? are you saying becasue I drink one drink Im alcoholic?believe it or not im no alcoholic and I can have one drink and not have another. your confuseing me here. what your saying is everyone who drinks is a alcoholic that doesnt make sense.

hikerchick's photo
Mon 03/31/08 05:29 PM
there you go again, putting words in my mouth.I think it's the voices in your head, honestly.

What I am saying is that an alcoholic cannot have one drink. I am an alcoholic; have not had a drink in 20 years.

I have no opinion on anyone else really, I am qualified to speak only for myself. Having one glass of wine a day does not look like alcoholism to me; however, I would never tell anyone else that they are or are not an alcoholic. It's not my place and I am not qualified.

I just don't like being around people when they drink.

moman65672's photo
Mon 03/31/08 05:47 PM
Edited by moman65672 on Mon 03/31/08 05:53 PM

there you go again, putting words in my mouth.I think it's the voices in your head, honestly.

What I am saying is that an alcoholic cannot have one drink. I am an alcoholic; have not had a drink in 20 years.

I have no opinion on anyone else really, I am qualified to speak only for myself. Having one glass of wine a day does not look like alcoholism to me; however, I would never tell anyone else that they are or are not an alcoholic. It's not my place and I am not qualified.

I just don't like being around people when they drink.
I see why you dont want to be around anyone that drinks now. Ok the dates off now huh? at least it wasnt because i was too old,too ugly,over wieght ,etc I can live with that I have a drink once in awhile.See how easy it is to chase me away. :wink:

edited to say what if I didnt drink on that date would it make any difference? I dont give up easy.laugh give some credit I could have said I never drink... how would you know ?

hikerchick's photo
Tue 04/01/08 04:45 AM
Honestly what it is, is fear of people who drink. Even people who barely drink can occasionally drink too much and become drunk. Drunk men scare me, because I have been physically hurt by them. Men who don't drink at all never accidentaly get drunk and come home to abuse their partners.

The other thing is a compatibility issue. Someone who drinks may want to go out for a drink once in a while, and I don't want to do that. I don't like bars. So right away there is a cause for friction. I don't want to change anyone. I don't want anyone giving up or cutting back on alcohol for me. So I prefer to just date people who don't drink anyway. It's just easier.

I am sure you can find plenty of women in your homestate who will date a guy who has one drink a day, is retired, and has all the time in the world to devote to her. You'll do fine.

moman65672's photo
Tue 04/01/08 08:28 AM

Honestly what it is, is fear of people who drink. Even people who barely drink can occasionally drink too much and become drunk. Drunk men scare me, because I have been physically hurt by them. Men who don't drink at all never accidentaly get drunk and come home to abuse their partners.

The other thing is a compatibility issue. Someone who drinks may want to go out for a drink once in a while, and I don't want to do that. I don't like bars. So right away there is a cause for friction. I don't want to change anyone. I don't want anyone giving up or cutting back on alcohol for me. So I prefer to just date people who don't drink anyway. It's just easier.

I am sure you can find plenty of women in your homestate who will date a guy who has one drink a day, is retired, and has all the time in the world to devote to her. You'll do fine.


Yes Im doing ok and it wont kill me not to be considered by you or any other woman who dosent like a person who has a drink once in while. Dont you think that might be the problem with a lot of people here. They wont bend or flex and are too ridged in their wants and desires. Im thinking I could flex alittle on a few things but not on all of them. smoking is one of my lock out items but I have been known to over look that just to get to know the real person.I have this idea in my head that if a person really loves you they could give up a bad habit. like a drink once in awhile if it bothered someone. I sure would. Having that drink isnt as important as having someone in your life. They wouldnt be changing us we would be changing ourselfs because we wanted too.whats wrong with asking someone to stop doing something we cant handle? It might just show we care about them and want them in our lifes.

Concerning our hypothetical date that was never going to happen it would be considered incest..... remember Sis

oh yes one more thing a abusive person is just that they dont need a excuse.... drinking or not. so your not protecting yourself there that much.

hikerchick's photo
Tue 04/01/08 03:28 PM


Honestly what it is, is fear of people who drink. Even people who barely drink can occasionally drink too much and become drunk. Drunk men scare me, because I have been physically hurt by them. Men who don't drink at all never accidentaly get drunk and come home to abuse their partners.

The other thing is a compatibility issue. Someone who drinks may want to go out for a drink once in a while, and I don't want to do that. I don't like bars. So right away there is a cause for friction. I don't want to change anyone. I don't want anyone giving up or cutting back on alcohol for me. So I prefer to just date people who don't drink anyway. It's just easier.

I am sure you can find plenty of women in your homestate who will date a guy who has one drink a day, is retired, and has all the time in the world to devote to her. You'll do fine.


Yes Im doing ok and it wont kill me not to be considered by you or any other woman who dosent like a person who has a drink once in while. Dont you think that might be the problem with a lot of people here. They wont bend or flex and are too ridged in their wants and desires. Im thinking I could flex alittle on a few things but not on all of them. smoking is one of my lock out items but I have been known to over look that just to get to know the real person.I have this idea in my head that if a person really loves you they could give up a bad habit. like a drink once in awhile if it bothered someone. I sure would. Having that drink isnt as important as having someone in your life. They wouldnt be changing us we would be changing ourselfs because we wanted too.whats wrong with asking someone to stop doing something we cant handle? It might just show we care about them and want them in our lifes.

Concerning our hypothetical date that was never going to happen it would be considered incest..... remember Sis

oh yes one more thing a abusive person is just that they dont need a excuse.... drinking or not. so your not protecting yourself there that much.


I don't think it is so unusual for an alcoholic person not to date people who drink. It just doesn't mesh. And I really don't want anyone giving anything up for me. If you enjoy your glass of wine each day, that is your right and you shouldn't have to give it up for anyone. Most women would have no problem at all with that; I have issues. They are my problem. So it's nothing against you; I never said that I don't like people who drink; I said I can't date people who drink. I think we all have preferences and we are entitled to that. I can flex on a lot of things but not that. Does that make me a bad person? Anyway, Moman, you live in Missouri and I live in PA. Dating is not really an option for us anyway.

I agree that abusive men are abusive men all the time, but it's just a bad connection that I have in my mind. Every time I have been woken up in the middle of the night, thrown through a window, had a pillow held on my face,had chunks of hair pulled out, it was by a guy who was drinking.It just brings back too many bad memories. Anyway, you don't really like fat chicks, I suspect. It's better this way.

Abracadabra's photo
Tue 04/01/08 04:37 PM

I read your profile and I think your a little high in what your expecting in a man!!!!!!! Try fantasy land!!! flowerforyou Good luck!!!!


laugh laugh laugh

I had to really crack up at this one.

The woman says she's looking for a man who isn't a loser.

And this guy says to try fantasy land. laugh

I guess he doesn't have a very high opinion of men on earth.

laugh laugh laugh

hikerchick's photo
Tue 04/01/08 04:39 PM


I read your profile and I think your a little high in what your expecting in a man!!!!!!! Try fantasy land!!! flowerforyou Good luck!!!!


laugh laugh laugh

I had to really crack up at this one.

The woman says she's looking for a man who isn't a loser.

And this guy says to try fantasy land. laugh

I guess he doesn't have a very high opinion of men on earth.

laugh laugh laugh


I wonder where he places himself.

moman65672's photo
Tue 04/01/08 09:46 PM



Honestly what it is, is fear of people who drink. Even people who barely drink can occasionally drink too much and become drunk. Drunk men scare me, because I have been physically hurt by them. Men who don't drink at all never accidentaly get drunk and come home to abuse their partners.

The other thing is a compatibility issue. Someone who drinks may want to go out for a drink once in a while, and I don't want to do that. I don't like bars. So right away there is a cause for friction. I don't want to change anyone. I don't want anyone giving up or cutting back on alcohol for me. So I prefer to just date people who don't drink anyway. It's just easier.

I am sure you can find plenty of women in your homestate who will date a guy who has one drink a day, is retired, and has all the time in the world to devote to her. You'll do fine.


Yes Im doing ok and it wont kill me not to be considered by you or any other woman who dosent like a person who has a drink once in while. Dont you think that might be the problem with a lot of people here. They wont bend or flex and are too ridged in their wants and desires. Im thinking I could flex alittle on a few things but not on all of them. smoking is one of my lock out items but I have been known to over look that just to get to know the real person.I have this idea in my head that if a person really loves you they could give up a bad habit. like a drink once in awhile if it bothered someone. I sure would. Having that drink isnt as important as having someone in your life. They wouldnt be changing us we would be changing ourselfs because we wanted too.whats wrong with asking someone to stop doing something we cant handle? It might just show we care about them and want them in our lifes.

Concerning our hypothetical date that was never going to happen it would be considered incest..... remember Sis

oh yes one more thing a abusive person is just that they dont need a excuse.... drinking or not. so your not protecting yourself there that much.


I don't think it is so unusual for an alcoholic person not to date people who drink. It just doesn't mesh. And I really don't want anyone giving anything up for me. If you enjoy your glass of wine each day, that is your right and you shouldn't have to give it up for anyone. Most women would have no problem at all with that; I have issues. They are my problem. So it's nothing against you; I never said that I don't like people who drink; I said I can't date people who drink. I think we all have preferences and we are entitled to that. I can flex on a lot of things but not that. Does that make me a bad person? Anyway, Moman, you live in Missouri and I live in PA. Dating is not really an option for us anyway.

I agree that abusive men are abusive men all the time, but it's just a bad connection that I have in my mind. Every time I have been woken up in the middle of the night, thrown through a window, had a pillow held on my face,had chunks of hair pulled out, it was by a guy who was drinking.It just brings back too many bad memories. Anyway, you don't really like fat chicks, I suspect. It's better this way.


I was a pretty heavy drinker till my mid 30s I never thought of myself as a alcoholc but other might. when I was in vietnam I probably drank a half a quart of wiskey a day. It never made me abusive thats something you either have or you dont. Im what you call a happy drunk just brings out the nice guy in me.I know some drunks are fighter you have all kinds of people that cant handle drinking.I did ok even in my heavy drinking days,I gave it up for health reason I just couldnt handle it with my aging the hangover were killing me. I didnt drink anything for about 8 years not one drop then started just have a glass of wine everyonce in a while when they started saying it was good for yor health.I dont drink every day. a gallon bottle could last a month or more. sometime I even forget to have a drink thats now less I could care about drinking. If i didnt see any health benfit i probably woundnt drink. one glass is nothing I get no effect from it. might as well drink grape juice only thing its sweeter.

as far as dateing heavier women I have no problem with that as long as they are healthy without medical problems. You forget I have been over weight all my life why would i use that for a lock out factor. who knows over weight better than me. I didnt get divorced from my wife because she was over weight it was becasue we didnt love each other. life is getting shorter its not worth spending it with someone you dont love anymore. now the distance thing is something thats hard to overcome. till two people meet in real life and see if there is some kind of chemistry you never know if your matched. all the photos in the world and emails cant do what nature can do in 30 seconds. any man that only looks at a woman on the outside isnt worth even considering . Most need to look in a mirror and see what they look like. Unless they have loads of money they shouldnt be so picky . the same goes for those women looking for mr right or their prince charming . some are prefect and can demand more. others have to be more honest with themself. but just like you they shouldnt settle for less than they will be happy with. Being healthy is my main weed out factor. I have spent enough time visitig the hospital. If a person has good health that usually means they are eating right getting exerise and not smoking or drinking too much.If a person has to drive around a parking lot looking for the parking place closet to the entrance rather that parking out back in the lot then they are avoiding a little exerise.

I read something in your profile which is probably a bigger weed out factor than distance that would be whats first in your llife.i know its your daughter and rightly so it should be that way. I was the same way thats why I stayed married so long, that and all my wifes medical problems. I learned a lesson from trying to live with some one if you dont come first in their life its not going to work. I would put who ever i lived with first even over my family now that they can care for themselfs. I see so many profiles with women listing what come 1st to them and if its not a man in their life they arent seriouly looking for one. they maybe just wanting a friend or someone to take them to dinner who knows what else . to me dating and friendship has to lead to something for what other reason was man and woman put on the earth than to live togeather and enjoy each other company. once the kids are gone the ture test of the marriage is there right in your face no work to hide behind.I think some guys work till they are dead just for that reason maybe some women do too. so we were doomed from the begining even before all the other factors came into play.


robert1652's photo
Wed 04/02/08 04:49 AM

I find I talk to people every where and it works if there is no ring on fingers and eyes meet and they are smiling Just say Hi that works I usually reply with you too? and then she says you too what and then improvise
Bob Do you want to talk to me?

What are the best places for a 50 female something to meet men?

hikerchick's photo
Wed 04/02/08 04:58 AM




Honestly what it is, is fear of people who drink. Even people who barely drink can occasionally drink too much and become drunk. Drunk men scare me, because I have been physically hurt by them. Men who don't drink at all never accidentaly get drunk and come home to abuse their partners.

The other thing is a compatibility issue. Someone who drinks may want to go out for a drink once in a while, and I don't want to do that. I don't like bars. So right away there is a cause for friction. I don't want to change anyone. I don't want anyone giving up or cutting back on alcohol for me. So I prefer to just date people who don't drink anyway. It's just easier.

I am sure you can find plenty of women in your homestate who will date a guy who has one drink a day, is retired, and has all the time in the world to devote to her. You'll do fine.


Yes Im doing ok and it wont kill me not to be considered by you or any other woman who dosent like a person who has a drink once in while. Dont you think that might be the problem with a lot of people here. They wont bend or flex and are too ridged in their wants and desires. Im thinking I could flex alittle on a few things but not on all of them. smoking is one of my lock out items but I have been known to over look that just to get to know the real person.I have this idea in my head that if a person really loves you they could give up a bad habit. like a drink once in awhile if it bothered someone. I sure would. Having that drink isnt as important as having someone in your life. They wouldnt be changing us we would be changing ourselfs because we wanted too.whats wrong with asking someone to stop doing something we cant handle? It might just show we care about them and want them in our lifes.

Concerning our hypothetical date that was never going to happen it would be considered incest..... remember Sis

oh yes one more thing a abusive person is just that they dont need a excuse.... drinking or not. so your not protecting yourself there that much.


I don't think it is so unusual for an alcoholic person not to date people who drink. It just doesn't mesh. And I really don't want anyone giving anything up for me. If you enjoy your glass of wine each day, that is your right and you shouldn't have to give it up for anyone. Most women would have no problem at all with that; I have issues. They are my problem. So it's nothing against you; I never said that I don't like people who drink; I said I can't date people who drink. I think we all have preferences and we are entitled to that. I can flex on a lot of things but not that. Does that make me a bad person? Anyway, Moman, you live in Missouri and I live in PA. Dating is not really an option for us anyway.

I agree that abusive men are abusive men all the time, but it's just a bad connection that I have in my mind. Every time I have been woken up in the middle of the night, thrown through a window, had a pillow held on my face,had chunks of hair pulled out, it was by a guy who was drinking.It just brings back too many bad memories. Anyway, you don't really like fat chicks, I suspect. It's better this way.


I was a pretty heavy drinker till my mid 30s I never thought of myself as a alcoholc but other might. when I was in vietnam I probably drank a half a quart of wiskey a day. It never made me abusive thats something you either have or you dont. Im what you call a happy drunk just brings out the nice guy in me.I know some drunks are fighter you have all kinds of people that cant handle drinking.I did ok even in my heavy drinking days,I gave it up for health reason I just couldnt handle it with my aging the hangover were killing me. I didnt drink anything for about 8 years not one drop then started just have a glass of wine everyonce in a while when they started saying it was good for yor health.I dont drink every day. a gallon bottle could last a month or more. sometime I even forget to have a drink thats now less I could care about drinking. If i didnt see any health benfit i probably woundnt drink. one glass is nothing I get no effect from it. might as well drink grape juice only thing its sweeter.

as far as dateing heavier women I have no problem with that as long as they are healthy without medical problems. You forget I have been over weight all my life why would i use that for a lock out factor. who knows over weight better than me. I didnt get divorced from my wife because she was over weight it was becasue we didnt love each other. life is getting shorter its not worth spending it with someone you dont love anymore. now the distance thing is something thats hard to overcome. till two people meet in real life and see if there is some kind of chemistry you never know if your matched. all the photos in the world and emails cant do what nature can do in 30 seconds. any man that only looks at a woman on the outside isnt worth even considering . Most need to look in a mirror and see what they look like. Unless they have loads of money they shouldnt be so picky . the same goes for those women looking for mr right or their prince charming . some are prefect and can demand more. others have to be more honest with themself. but just like you they shouldnt settle for less than they will be happy with. Being healthy is my main weed out factor. I have spent enough time visitig the hospital. If a person has good health that usually means they are eating right getting exerise and not smoking or drinking too much.If a person has to drive around a parking lot looking for the parking place closet to the entrance rather that parking out back in the lot then they are avoiding a little exerise.

I read something in your profile which is probably a bigger weed out factor than distance that would be whats first in your llife.i know its your daughter and rightly so it should be that way. I was the same way thats why I stayed married so long, that and all my wifes medical problems. I learned a lesson from trying to live with some one if you dont come first in their life its not going to work. I would put who ever i lived with first even over my family now that they can care for themselfs. I see so many profiles with women listing what come 1st to them and if its not a man in their life they arent seriouly looking for one. they maybe just wanting a friend or someone to take them to dinner who knows what else . to me dating and friendship has to lead to something for what other reason was man and woman put on the earth than to live togeather and enjoy each other company. once the kids are gone the ture test of the marriage is there right in your face no work to hide behind.I think some guys work till they are dead just for that reason maybe some women do too. so we were doomed from the begining even before all the other factors came into play.




I think a man that demands to be first in a woman's life is an insecure man. A secure man knows he is loved and does not need a constant display of attention. Even once my daughter grows up I would not want to be with someone so needy. I need to have my own life and my own space and not be somebody's siamese twin. There are men out there who feel the same way.

RainbowTrout's photo
Wed 04/02/08 05:54 AM
You know, Robin you amaze me. Sometimes you come up with some really good advice.:smile:

moman65672's photo
Wed 04/02/08 07:45 AM




I think a man that demands to be first in a woman's life is an insecure man. A secure man knows he is loved and does not need a constant display of attention. Even once my daughter grows up I would not want to be with someone so needy. I need to have my own life and my own space and not be somebody's siamese twin. There are men out there who feel the same way.


your entitled to your opinion I dont see it the same way. insecure is someone who cant let go of the past if all they know is their family and kids thats all they will be. If you found aother person to think like you then you wouldnt need or want each other so why even think about looking for a man in you life.You are looking arent you? Kids and family have a place in your life but if thats your number one concern then living the rest of your life and growing old alone may be your only choice. Im not demanding to be first in her life Im saying we have to be first in both our lives their is a difference.That means she just wont be a sometime thing. Its called commitment. I know thats hard for someone to do when they have been wronged so may times. who says you cant have your own life just because you have someone that cares about you. some how your idea of commitment is givng out and not recieveing anything in return.

A secure man wouldnt settle of being second best and would be able to live just fine without being needy or taking 1st thing that came along.If all you want out of life is single men with no commitment Im sure there are a lot of them out there.

PacificStar48's photo
Wed 04/02/08 11:28 AM

Pharmacies?

I wish that would work I have a tiny crush on the guy at my pharmacy. To chicken to flirt with him. lol

PacificStar48's photo
Wed 04/02/08 11:35 AM
I would like to know why guys always say they would meet a gal in a grocery store? What whould you say to someone? Paper or plastic? I am so not good at flirting....help.

PacificStar48's photo
Wed 04/02/08 12:15 PM

Anyone ever try the gym?

LOL now that is a great place to meet someone; you are hot, sweaty, out of breath, and trying to look sexy on a bench press half the widith of my behind? ROFLMBO If a guy loves you like that I guess it would be true love at least.

PacificStar48's photo
Wed 04/02/08 12:26 PM
LOL that would probably have me sooooooh confused. But if you flashed that big smile and a thumbs up I would laugh and probably talk to you.

I wish when guys saw somehthing they likeded they would smile and thumbs up. Then you would least have an idea that they are interested. That scared "Don't look at me" look or the other extream "Hey Babe you wanna screw" is getting old. Would a thumbs up be politically incorrect? Don't want to always be "rated" but a little eye contact follow through wouldn't be all bad would it?

PacificStar48's photo
Wed 04/02/08 12:38 PM
I don't think wanting to be first in your partners life is a bad thing. Yes it can easily be taken to an extream that is abusive and suffocateing to everyone. But if I pledge myself to someone; to love them as I love myself then I want to be first in his life likewise. I want him to love, protect, defend, and support his family; especially his kids or dependant parents but if I am only going to be a step-wife then NO THANKS.