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mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 16203 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: if everyone wants to read al quran comprehensively. i believe there will b no doubts bout islam. n as far as i know islam never teaches bout violence. killing daughter? i don't think so. the quraisy community in arab did that thing bcause having daughter was a shame thing n useless,so they burried them alive soon they were born. islam never differ people by race,gender just their behavior and their good deeds to God and other people.so,briefly to b a good or bad person isn't based on what religion. they are,coz in my opinion there's no religion teaches the folk to do bad things, but it's only based on human's ttitude. i keep hearing people say these things, but it seems to me that you guys are the ones that are not reading it... did you skip over the parts about the infidels? did you read about how islam is the only religion that matters? Probably did not read that death is the punishment meted out to the unbelievers either. well, i do know the one thing just about all muslims have in common is hating Jews... thats not exactly peace and love either... |
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mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 16203 |
QUOTE: Islam says “one who kills an innocent people, he / she kills the whole mankind “ . So, If you are a man by whom a let of Muslims or non-Muslims have been killed in the mean time . You should think that it is not the work of Islam or the great prophet Muhammad (sm ) . Islam always works for peace and to protect human rights I want to request my dear non – Muslims brothers and sister that Islam dose not reflect properly in present Muslim society . Islam actually lies in the Qur'an and Ha dis please, study the Qur'an and Ha dis and you will see the real Islam. At last, I want to say that Islam is an ideal. It is not only for the Muslims . It is for the whole mankind. Islam respects all the world nice words, and i'm glad you feel that way, but tell it to your millions and millions of your fanatical islamic brothers and sisters... i hardly think strapping a bomb on your azz and blowing up a crowded bus station is very respectful to the world... |
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mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 16203 |
QUOTE: I would think they are going to call it a "sleeper cell" but it seems that the only ones sleeping are our government officials. our gov is not sleeping, but just the opposite... they let this happen to further their agenda... i'm thinking to see how far they could push martial law and it's effect... |
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mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 16203 |
QUOTE: if everyone wants to read al quran comprehensively. i believe there will b no doubts bout islam. n as far as i know islam never teaches bout violence. killing daughter? i don't think so. the quraisy community in arab did that thing bcause having daughter was a shame thing n useless,so they burried them alive soon they were born. islam never differ people by race,gender just their behavior and their good deeds to God and other people.so,briefly to b a good or bad person isn't based on what religion. they are,coz in my opinion there's no religion teaches the folk to do bad things, but it's only based on human's ttitude. i keep hearing people say these things, but it seems to me that you guys are the ones that are not reading it... did you skip over the parts about the infidels? did you read about how islam is the only religion that matters? |
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mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 16203 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: actually I am more concerned what it does to those who are actually charged to carry out the Sentence! a reasonable concern as well,,, to be innocent and put to death could only be matched by the emotional trauma of having been the one who killed an innocent person,,,, could be, some are able to detach, just like soldiers in war,,,,the action from the goal,,,, Or they could be psychopaths and just not care... |
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mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 16203 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: you, being a Nubian queen, have nothing to worry about from the NOI, unless you have some white friends... just praise allah 5 times a day, and quit eating pork...
Dude, that remark crosses the line into a personal slur.
msharmony's racial identity has nothing to do with the arguments that she is making. would you also be mad if i called a cat a cat? MH can handle herself quite well, she doesn't need any help from the popcorn section... What kind of friend would I be to msharmony if I didn't speak out when someone made a personal attack against her? The topic of this thread isn't religion, isn't race and isn't extremist groups, whoever they may be. It is about the way that the death penalty is given. well, when you become a mod, then your opinion on whats a personal attack will matter...
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Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R) of Kentucky points to a 7-foot stack of “Obamacare” regulations during the 40th annual Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in National Harbor, Md., March 15. Op-ed contributor Timothy Sandefur says 'courts should take care to enforce democratic controls' over Congress's taxing power' – as exercised under Obamacare. The sad truth is that McConnel could care less about what's in the corrupt Dem ACA laws, only that they weren't written by his corrupt party both parties are guilty of that, and they both know and try to keep it secret from us... it hasn't been "for the people" for a long time... |
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mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 16203 |
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Is it just me?
QUOTE: Or does it seem like almost every profile on here has been left unattended for a long time? some are, some aren't... the easiest way to meet people, not scammers, is in the forums... welcome to mingle
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mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 16203 |
QUOTE: If there is nothing then thats me. no, your definitely something...
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mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 16203 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: I guess in the pursuit of the lesser of 2 evils. One should choose the radical islamist. However in the pursuit of goodness I could name a great man like Mahatma Gandhi, Who never had to slander any races nor exhibit violence to make a change. Then again you might not want to mention Gandhi since he was murdered by a radical islamist just like Minister Farrakhan.
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mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 16203 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: you, being a Nubian queen, have nothing to worry about from the NOI, unless you have some white friends... just praise allah 5 times a day, and quit eating pork...
Dude, that remark crosses the line into a personal slur.
msharmony's racial identity has nothing to do with the arguments that she is making. would you also be mad if i called a cat a cat? MH can handle herself quite well, she doesn't need any help from the popcorn section... |
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mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 16203 |
QUOTE: The title of this thread is in regards to what is clearly stated, the DEATH PENALTY. The defencesive responce is partly due to a long history of denial and misseducation. If bringing injustices to light disturbs you, it only because it destroys a long held premise of a false sence of rightousness. Nazis hate being reminded of the crimes they committed and the Holocaust because its reminders contradict present day false perceptions of history. This thread is about the implications of a death penalty that is not just historicly unfair and also barbaric, but presently unable to function fairly due to race, class and poverty rate. The defencesiveness also has its roots in great denial. By the way, a devil is a state of mind. If you dont see anything wrong with injustice, well then you are well on your way. whether injustice/justice is right or wrong, there's nothing you can do about it... it's just as unjust to keep an innocent man in prison for the rest of his life to...they can stop killing people, then they sit in prison... they can do away with prisons, but then the injustice is left with the victims survivors not getting justice... just because you think the boy was not guilty, doesn't make it so... |
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mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 16203 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: If you read my above post I said blame human beings as a whole for injustice. In regards to your comment about the "Devils" Now that is some true racism right there. Why don't you just mean what you say. Which would be "white devils" I never heard Farrakhan hold back. Why should you? I don't think whites are devils, My lily white image of myself. As you say, Has a clean conscience I never burned a cross in someones yard. Nor have I ever done any injustice to any black folks. I guess to you keeping up with the status quo of "blame whitey" Is the right thing for you. Even if many of us are innocent of any wrong doing. the NOI and their ilk think that all white people are not innocent, from skinning white babies to raping the white women... a quote from his buddy, "king" shabaz... I love how some here continually equate what one person in one group says and hold another person in another group accountable for it Shabazz is in the volatile black panthers minister farrkhan and the NOI are a totally different entity,,, nowhere in NOI information, lectures, media is anyone advised or directed to skin anyone, let alone babies nor is anyone advised or directed to rape anyone, let alone white women its amazing to me so many here seem to feel threatened by NOI,,,,amazing, and i guess fairycan would be considered different too? and i guess the kkk and skinheads are different? ... get real, they all have the same agenda, same thoughts, and the same ways to carry it out... you, being a Nubian queen, have nothing to worry about from the NOI, unless you have some white friends... just praise allah 5 times a day, and quit eating pork... |
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mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 16203 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: If you read my above post I said blame human beings as a whole for injustice. In regards to your comment about the "Devils" Now that is some true racism right there. Why don't you just mean what you say. Which would be "white devils" I never heard Farrakhan hold back. Why should you? I don't think whites are devils, My lily white image of myself. As you say, Has a clean conscience I never burned a cross in someones yard. Nor have I ever done any injustice to any black folks. I guess to you keeping up with the status quo of "blame whitey" Is the right thing for you. Even if many of us are innocent of any wrong doing. the NOI and their ilk think that all white people are not innocent, from skinning white babies to raping the white women... a quote from his buddy, "king" shabaz...
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mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 16203 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: Just one of many well documented cases of the miscarriages of juctice, the above is the greatest miscarriage of justice in the American judicial systems history. not even close... i guess the 26 kids burned to death in waco by our government means nothing... but i guess bringing up racial issues from 70 years ago has it's meaning, it seems to follow the militant propaganda from your buddies at the NOI...
again, your twisting things into your own illogical thinking... read it again, and look for where i said it was propaganda... I said your buddies at the NOI use this as propaganda for their militant fronts.... i have no reason to like it or not, it was 70 years ago, i simply don't care...one of many injustices, all i can say is good luck to ya getting it solved... i'm sure you find enough evidence to convict the evil white devil that did this heinous act over 70 years ago... lol... just like the overzealous black devils that sold your ancestors to the while devils? man, i'm so sorry everyone but white people had problems in their past... but, as per status quo, blame whitey..
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mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 16203 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: First and foremost, there is no greater propaganda machine like the American goverments . . .
Wow, the above-quoted statement certainly is subjective. From my perspective, there is no greater propaganda machine like a group of people who are paranoid about the government. 75% and counting... |
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mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 16203 |
QUOTE: I believe they killed themselves after having 51 DAYS for those wishing to leave to do so,,,,, I believe suspicion of molesting children and having illegal firearms is enough reason to have a visit from law enforcement ,,,, ok, yea, they should die then... the bastards, being under suspicion and all...
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mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 16203 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: Just one of many well documented cases of the miscarriages of juctice, the above is the greatest miscarriage of justice in the American judicial systems history. not even close... i guess the 26 kids burned to death in waco by our government means nothing... but i guess bringing up racial issues from 70 years ago has it's meaning, it seems to follow the militant propaganda from your buddies at the NOI...
again, your twisting things into your own illogical thinking... read it again, and look for where i said it was propaganda... I said your buddies at the NOI use this as propaganda for their militant fronts.... i have no reason to like it or not, it was 70 years ago, i simply don't care...one of many injustices, all i can say is good luck to ya getting it solved... i'm sure you find enough evidence to convict the evil white devil that did this heinous act over 70 years ago... |
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mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 16203 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: Just one of many well documented cases of the miscarriages of juctice, the above is the greatest miscarriage of justice in the American judicial systems history. not even close... i guess the 26 kids burned to death in waco by our government means nothing... but i guess bringing up racial issues from 70 years ago has it's meaning, it seems to follow the militant propaganda from your buddies at the NOI...
Uh, not so fast. Here is an excerpt from the Wikipedia entry titled "Waco siege": QUOTE: A Time poll conducted on August 26, 1999, for example, indicated that 61 percent of the public believed that federal law enforcement officials started the fire at the Branch Davidian complex.
In September of that year, Attorney General Reno appointed former U.S. Senator John C. Danforth as Special Counsel to investigate the matter. In particular, the Special Counsel was directed to investigate charges that government agents started or spread the fire at the Mount Carmel complex, directed gunfire at the Branch Davidians, and unlawfully employed the armed forces of the United States. A yearlong investigation ensued, during which the Office of the Special Counsel interviewed 1,001 witnesses, reviewed over 2.3 million pages of documents, and examined thousands of pounds of physical evidence. In the Final report to the Deputy Attorney General concerning the 1993 confrontation at the Mt. Carmel Complex, Waco Texas of November 8, 2000, Special Counsel Danforth concluded that the allegations were meritless. The report found, however, that certain government employees had failed to disclose during litigation against the Branch Davidians the use of pyrotechnic devices at the complex, and had obstructed the Special Counsel’s investigation. Disciplinary action was pursued against those individuals. Allegations that the government started the fire were based largely on an FBI agent’s having fired three "pyrotechnic" tear gas rounds, which are delivered with a charge that burns. The Special Counsel concluded that, because the FBI fired the rounds nearly four hours before the fire started, at a concrete construction pit partially filled with water, 75 feet (23 m) away and downwind from the main living quarters of the complex, the rounds did not start or contribute to the spread of the fire. The Special Counsel noted, by contrast, that recorded interceptions of Branch Davidian conversations included such statements as "David said we have to get the fuel on" and "So we light it first when they come in with the tank right [...] right as they’re coming in." Branch Davidians who survived the fire acknowledged that other Branch Davidians started the fire. FBI agents witnessed Branch Davidians pouring fuel and igniting a fire, and noted these observations contemporaneously. Lab analysis found accelerants on the clothing of Branch Davidians, and investigators found deliberately punctured fuel cans and a homemade torch at the site. Based on this evidence and testimony, the Special Counsel concluded that the fire was started by the Branch Davidians. So,the Danforth Report about Waco puts to rest the false claim that federal agents started the fire that destroyed the compound of the Branch Davidians in Waco, TX. To read a Chicago Tribune news report about the Danforth Report, click here. yea, nice report... Janet Reno told them to do it... who were the "1001" witnesses? the police had everyone held back from 5 miles away... the fire started when the tank went though the walls... Did you bother to read the Danforth Report? Seriously, you are supporting a claim that has been proven to be without merit. Besides there were plenty opportunities for the Feds to grab Koresh without even having to go into the Compound! But the same Gung-Ho was displayed at Ruby Ridge,and when the Feds snatched Elian Gonzales in Miami! they don't seem to understand that... not to mention they never broke any laws to begin with... owning guns is not against the law...
Edited by mightymoe on Tue 04/30/13 01:18 PM
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