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Topic: don't you guys...
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Wed 05/21/08 11:15 AM

"artgurl" said..."I don't think it is the debating ... it is the degeneration into something that is less than honouring of the individuals that seems to be happening more lately" ...



Really???????? My quote in context was in response to Abra's response to TLW in which I was saying that I did not think it was the 'debating' that TLW was tired of ... it is when discussions become character assassinations... ie dishonouring of individuals ... that is frustrating because discussions go nowhere.


"Artgurl" all I asked you was if that same statement also apply to "creativesoul"since some of the content in his parables could be or could be mistaken as character assassinations ...

my intent was for you to see that statement as someone else may have seen it.. that the statement wheather consciously subconsciously or perhaps mistakingly was in a context to degrade and once brought to your attention is the reason you avoid answering the question once "creativesoul" was place into the equation

so far you have analyzed and picked apart every post and response but yet at this very point in time never answered that one simple yes or no question ...

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Wed 05/21/08 11:37 AM
character assassinations .

Is said to be an abomination in Prov. 6:19..Blessings...Miles

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Wed 05/21/08 11:39 AM


"artgurl" said..."I don't think it is the debating ... it is the degeneration into something that is less than honouring of the individuals that seems to be happening more lately" ...



Really???????? My quote in context was in response to Abra's response to TLW in which I was saying that I did not think it was the 'debating' that TLW was tired of ... it is when discussions become character assassinations... ie dishonouring of individuals ... that is frustrating because discussions go nowhere.


"Artgurl" all I asked you was if that same statement also apply to "creativesoul"since some of the content in his parables could be or could be mistaken as character assassinations ...

my intent was for you to see that statement as someone else may have seen it.. that the statement wheather consciously subconsciously or perhaps mistakingly was in a context to degrade and once brought to your attention is the reason you avoid answering the question once "creativesoul" was place into the equation

so far you have analyzed and picked apart every post and response but yet at this very point in time never answered that one simple yes or no question ...



Yes funches ... actually I did answer the question ... it just must not have fit with your agenda ...



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Wed 05/21/08 11:56 AM



"artgurl" said..."I don't think it is the debating ... it is the degeneration into something that is less than honouring of the individuals that seems to be happening more lately" ...



Really???????? My quote in context was in response to Abra's response to TLW in which I was saying that I did not think it was the 'debating' that TLW was tired of ... it is when discussions become character assassinations... ie dishonouring of individuals ... that is frustrating because discussions go nowhere.


"Artgurl" all I asked you was if that same statement also apply to "creativesoul"since some of the content in his parables could be or could be mistaken as character assassinations ...

my intent was for you to see that statement as someone else may have seen it.. that the statement wheather consciously subconsciously or perhaps mistakingly was in a context to degrade and once brought to your attention is the reason you avoid answering the question once "creativesoul" was place into the equation

so far you have analyzed and picked apart every post and response but yet at this very point in time never answered that one simple yes or no question ...



Yes funches ... actually I did answer the question ... it just must not have fit with your agenda ...



geez "artgurl" I guess it was only a matter of time until you started speaking in parables ...damn that creativesoul

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Wed 05/21/08 12:00 PM

character assassinations .

Is said to be an abomination in Prov. 6:19..Blessings...Miles


when the bible say worship no other gods or false idols...isn't that assassinating the character of the other gods

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Wed 05/21/08 02:00 PM
Funches,

Some people do not attempt to dissect another's responses unless those responses require such a dissection in order to establish a clear path of mutual understanding. Even then, there are times when two will never see "eye to eye".

Thankfully this can be seen clearly from one who knows themself well.

No rights, no wrongs being established here... just the desire to not be falsely represented by another's misunderstanding of intention and/or motive.

It seems clear to me that you, funches, have misrepresented Artgurl's intentions behind agreeing with the OP.

Whether or not she agreed with my approach to any given prior conversation in these forums is irrelevant, immaterial, and beside the point.

She pointed no fingers in her initial response, and clearly attempted to avoid pointing out your assumptive nature during this entire conversation, to no avail.

This entire discussion could have very easily gotten to the point of what she was referring to, but it has not. This has been as a result of persistent attempts at clarification without character assassinations...

We can all be grateful for that... :wink:

Peace...

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Wed 05/21/08 04:28 PM

Whether or not she agreed with my approach to any given prior conversation in these forums is irrelevant, immaterial, and beside the point.


it had nothing to do wheather "artgurl" agreed with your approach because she had already admitted that you sometimes fly off the handle which includes arguing in the forum and possible character assassinations so that's why I asked her did her statement about "degeneration" of those that argue in the forum also apply to you ..either it does or it doesn't

so far she haven't answered


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Wed 05/21/08 04:59 PM

she had already admitted that you sometimes fly off the handle which includes arguing in the forum and possible character assassinations...




Wow is that what I said? Show me ...


And yes funches I did answered the question ... clearly


Now remind me what any of this has to do with the OP ... or with your self-appointed purpose of putting the religious flock on the path of righteousness...as defined by you ...

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Wed 05/21/08 05:08 PM

And yes funches I did answered the question ... clearly


well for the sake or not debating can you re-answer ..clearly-er


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Wed 05/21/08 05:35 PM
Edited by creativesoul on Wed 05/21/08 05:36 PM
Now remind me what any of this has to do with the OP ... or with your self-appointed purpose of putting the religious flock on the path of righteousness...as defined by you ...


Uhhhhh.... ditto!!! :tongue:

The only labels being applied here are being done so by yourself, funches.

Character assessment is an absolute necessity for any form of character assassination to be had. Labels such as the ones that you continually place upon people clearly show that you would be the one who is assessing one's character.

Just because one may express uncomfort concerning the content and/or the style of another's expression(s) does not necessarily constitute personal judgement, nor any character assassination.

Therefore, I fail to see your point in all this. :wink:

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Wed 05/21/08 05:51 PM

Now remind me what any of this has to do with the OP ... or with your self-appointed purpose of putting the religious flock on the path of righteousness...as defined by you ...


Uhhhhh.... ditto!!! :tongue:

The only labels being applied here are being done so by yourself, funches.

Character assessment is an absolute necessity for any form of character assassination to be had. Labels such as the ones that you continually place upon people clearly show that you would be the one who is assessing one's character.

Just because one may express uncomfort concerning the content and/or the style of another's expression(s) does not necessarily constitute personal judgement, nor any character assassination.

Therefore, I fail to see your point in all this. :wink:


well "creativesoul" the whole matter can be cleared up if "artgurl" just answer that simple question ...if she answer no then she condemns herself but if she answers yes she condemns you ....this is so exciting and so shakespearean

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Wed 05/21/08 05:59 PM

...get tired of debating on religion, and never come to any understanding.
I'm one of the most passionate debaters on here (at least i feel it that way), but honestly I feel so tired.
It's always going and going in circles without an ending.
I need a little bit of time off.

Religion is a big factor in life where billions and billions are spent on it . Also ,some religious leaders have huge powers over their followers . So religion is a big disease in any society and all people should realise this . If they do not ,the world is losing to religion myths and contradictions .
Enjoy debating ....!.

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Wed 05/21/08 08:14 PM
Perception is reality... :wink:

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Wed 05/21/08 09:51 PM


Now remind me what any of this has to do with the OP ... or with your self-appointed purpose of putting the religious flock on the path of righteousness...as defined by you ...


Uhhhhh.... ditto!!! :tongue:

The only labels being applied here are being done so by yourself, funches.

Character assessment is an absolute necessity for any form of character assassination to be had. Labels such as the ones that you continually place upon people clearly show that you would be the one who is assessing one's character.

Just because one may express uncomfort concerning the content and/or the style of another's expression(s) does not necessarily constitute personal judgement, nor any character assassination.

Therefore, I fail to see your point in all this. :wink:


well "creativesoul" the whole matter can be cleared up if "artgurl" just answer that simple question ...if she answer no then she condemns herself but if she answers yes she condemns you ....this is so exciting and so shakespearean


It's not exciting and Shakespearean, it's stupidity and you're causing it!laugh
So anxious to "win" yet you haven't a clue. Where's the thumbs down emoticon when you need it?:tongue:

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Wed 05/21/08 09:55 PM
whos debating?i'm right.laugh

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Wed 05/21/08 10:13 PM
Arts and Creative are here!! I knew it--something told me things were making sense tonight. Good to see you guys. Wait, was I supposed to start an argument with someone? :wink:

-Drew

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Thu 05/22/08 12:54 AM
Hiya Jax, Drew, Harry...

flowerforyou

In the midst of all this lies a lesson... laugh

Good luck filtering through all of the expression(s) in order to find it... :wink:

bigsmile

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Thu 05/22/08 04:42 AM

It's not exciting and Shakespearean, it's stupidity and you're causing it!laugh
So anxious to "win" yet you haven't a clue. Where's the thumbs down emoticon when you need it?:tongue:


hummmm....how rude

so "kidatheart" my character assassinating friend it appears you learned nothing from all this .. I wonder if "artgurl" would describe your post as ......"I don't think it is the debating ... it is the degeneration into something that is less than honouring of the individuals that seems to be happening more lately" ...


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Thu 05/22/08 04:34 PM


It's not exciting and Shakespearean, it's stupidity and you're causing it!laugh
So anxious to "win" yet you haven't a clue. Where's the thumbs down emoticon when you need it?:tongue:


hummmm....how rude

so "kidatheart" my character assassinating friend it appears you learned nothing from all this .. I wonder if "artgurl" would describe your post as ......"I don't think it is the debating ... it is the degeneration into something that is less than honouring of the individuals that seems to be happening more lately" ...




You certainly don't need my help to assassinate your character. You're doing fine all on your own.laugh

Rude? The truth can be that way at times. Read your own posts objectively and tell me I'm wrong. It's not all about winning.:wink:

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Thu 05/22/08 05:14 PM



It's not exciting and Shakespearean, it's stupidity and you're causing it!laugh
So anxious to "win" yet you haven't a clue. Where's the thumbs down emoticon when you need it?:tongue:


hummmm....how rude

so "kidatheart" my character assassinating friend it appears you learned nothing from all this .. I wonder if "artgurl" would describe your post as ......"I don't think it is the debating ... it is the degeneration into something that is less than honouring of the individuals that seems to be happening more lately" ...




You certainly don't need my help to assassinate your character. You're doing fine all on your own.laugh

Rude? The truth can be that way at times. Read your own posts objectively and tell me I'm wrong. It's not all about winning.:wink:



character assassination was a term that "artgurl" used.. I just quoted her because you are doing the very thing she was talking about ..maybe "kidatheart" you should pay more attention to the conservation

and yes it is about winning ...unless for you it's about failing

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