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Topic: ForGiveNess
Differentkindofwench's photo
Mon 10/27/08 06:42 AM
Well written. I could analyze, but it would be redundant, as you already have accomplished that. Simple concepts can be the most complex to accomplish and put into words that truly convey the actual meaning of those concepts. What I am trying to ramble through is forgiveness actually does lead to inner wisdom and peace rather than bitterness. Bluntly, it does NOT constitute embracing a rattler because that would be an open, loving gesture. To me, it's more like recognizing the rattler for exactly what it is and side-stepping it rather than any attempt at changing it into a grass or gardener snake.

LAMom's photo
Mon 10/27/08 07:54 AM

Well written. I could analyze, but it would be redundant, as you already have accomplished that. Simple concepts can be the most complex to accomplish and put into words that truly convey the actual meaning of those concepts. What I am trying to ramble through is forgiveness actually does lead to inner wisdom and peace rather than bitterness. Bluntly, it does NOT constitute embracing a rattler because that would be an open, loving gesture. To me, it's more like recognizing the rattler for exactly what it is and side-stepping it rather than any attempt at changing it into a grass or gardener snake.


I so love the way you Analyze,, You fill me with delight and much love
Kiss's to you:heart:

TxsGal3333's photo
Mon 10/27/08 08:37 AM
Ya know some people will never get a grasp on reality within their lives.

To forgive does not mean to always forget. It just means you have dealt with the situation and moved past it. That it is no longer and issue at times things happens and it takes awhile for some to see those things were never meant to be.

As I have learned to forgive my ex for the past but that is something one needs to move on. I promise I have not forgotten what he did but I have learned what happened for a reason and there is no reason to hate them anymore. Now does that mean we are buddy buddy no but we are friendly and always civil to each other we only call each other when it deals with our kids or his mother which I'm very close to. But it works due to he has learned to leave the past in the past as well and we dealt with what happened. But in no way do we go out of our way to include the other in our lives now. For we have our own lives that in no way involves the other.

But then at times you run into those that can't grasp reality and seem to want to harp on what was never meant to be putting more into it then there really was. They deal to bring up the past over and over making themselves out to be something they are not. One needs to deal with reality and not what they try to make others perceive them to be.

As I have said one must learn to forgive within first then forgive others in order to move on. But it does not mean to forget the past instead learn from it and move on.

LAMom's photo
Mon 10/27/08 09:06 AM

Ya know some people will never get a grasp on reality within their lives.

To forgive does not mean to always forget. It just means you have dealt with the situation and moved past it. That it is no longer and issue at times things happens and it takes awhile for some to see those things were never meant to be.

As I have learned to forgive my ex for the past but that is something one needs to move on. I promise I have not forgotten what he did but I have learned what happened for a reason and there is no reason to hate them anymore. Now does that mean we are buddy buddy no but we are friendly and always civil to each other we only call each other when it deals with our kids or his mother which I'm very close to. But it works due to he has learned to leave the past in the past as well and we dealt with what happened. But in no way do we go out of our way to include the other in our lives now. For we have our own lives that in no way involves the other.

But then at times you run into those that can't grasp reality and seem to want to harp on what was never meant to be putting more into it then there really was. They deal to bring up the past over and over making themselves out to be something they are not. One needs to deal with reality and not what they try to make others perceive them to be.

As I have said one must learn to forgive within first then forgive others in order to move on. But it does not mean to forget the past instead learn from it and move on.


Reality for some I guess is not the same for others,,

You have taught me many lessons in life for this I am forever grateful
I have much more learning to do,, and
its good to know that when I fall you and many others are there to pick me up brush me off and send me on my way
Love you ((( Puddin Cup )))) :heart:


Ya know you and the Lady Wench should write a book together,,,Hmmmmmmmmm

Title:::: Analyzing The ups and downs of life and the side of Bull that comes
along with it, Hmmmmmmmm maybe I shall ponder on a better title

TxsGal3333's photo
Mon 10/27/08 09:24 AM
:heart: ((((((((Buttercup))))))):heart:


Awww girl taught you naw only reminded you what you already knew. Therefore maybe nudged you to see it but that was all. So many times our talks have made me see things in perspective that I did not want to see but knew it was true. At times we just need someone to assure us of what we already know and we are not wrong for thinking the way we do. And at times just to see a different side to the situation and give their opinion.
We must be reminded not to focus on the worst possibilities in life before they happen. Instead to enjoy what we have before us today. flowers



kc0003's photo
Mon 10/27/08 09:25 AM
Good morning you.


LAMom's photo
Mon 10/27/08 09:28 AM

:heart: ((((((((Buttercup))))))):heart:


Awww girl taught you naw only reminded you what you already knew. Therefore maybe nudged you to see it but that was all. So many times our talks have made me see things in perspective that I did not want to see but knew it was true. At times we just need someone to assure us of what we already know and we are not wrong for thinking the way we do. And at times just to see a different side to the situation and give their opinion.
We must be reminded not to focus on the worst possibilities in life before they happen. Instead to enjoy what we have before us today. flowers





I am learning to enjoy what I have before me today and look forward to a
bright future,,,

((( Puddin Cup ))) Blessed am I to have you by my side through all of life's ups and some hard downs,,

Love you :heart:

Day by day we seem to get through,, ohhhhhhhhhh how I love the strength in us,,, bigsmile

LAMom's photo
Mon 10/27/08 09:28 AM

Good morning you.




Good Morning Mr Wonderful flowers

Differentkindofwench's photo
Mon 10/27/08 12:54 PM


Ya know some people will never get a grasp on reality within their lives.

To forgive does not mean to always forget. It just means you have dealt with the situation and moved past it. That it is no longer and issue at times things happens and it takes awhile for some to see those things were never meant to be.

As I have learned to forgive my ex for the past but that is something one needs to move on. I promise I have not forgotten what he did but I have learned what happened for a reason and there is no reason to hate them anymore. Now does that mean we are buddy buddy no but we are friendly and always civil to each other we only call each other when it deals with our kids or his mother which I'm very close to. But it works due to he has learned to leave the past in the past as well and we dealt with what happened. But in no way do we go out of our way to include the other in our lives now. For we have our own lives that in no way involves the other.

But then at times you run into those that can't grasp reality and seem to want to harp on what was never meant to be putting more into it then there really was. They deal to bring up the past over and over making themselves out to be something they are not. One needs to deal with reality and not what they try to make others perceive them to be.

As I have said one must learn to forgive within first then forgive others in order to move on. But it does not mean to forget the past instead learn from it and move on.


Reality for some I guess is not the same for others,,

You have taught me many lessons in life for this I am forever grateful
I have much more learning to do,, and
its good to know that when I fall you and many others are there to pick me up brush me off and send me on my way
Love you ((( Puddin Cup )))) :heart:


Ya know you and the Lady Wench should write a book together,,,Hmmmmmmmmm

Title:::: Analyzing The ups and downs of life and the side of Bull that comes
along with it, Hmmmmmmmm maybe I shall ponder on a better title
Ohhh Lord, what a title, Life's Dishes: Amusement Park Rides, A Side of Bull, and A Genie in a Bottle to Wash It All Downrofl !rofl rofl drinks

Differentkindofwench's photo
Mon 10/27/08 12:59 PM
Ooooo, how 'bout "Embittered or Empowered; The Choice is Your's" A collection of life's essays and poems, what do ya think Txs?

zanne46's photo
Tue 10/28/08 07:06 PM
Edited by zanne46 on Tue 10/28/08 07:33 PM
hmmmmmmmm....:angry: grumble

this post sucks....

just my opinion.....

freedom of speech...

don't even bother to reply.....

it means nothing to me....

I have more important things to think and worry about....

In places of my life...

forgiveness at this point will never happen...

until there is a resolve....

then and then only will I forgive..

forget....imposible in the human mind....

flowers

no photo
Tue 10/28/08 09:16 PM

I’ve been told that forgiveness sets one free
Forgiveness in Body, Soul & Mind ease’s the pain
I forgive me for not Loving your Ego
I forgive me for wanting to live life in the Now
I forgive me for losing “Me” in the We
I forgive me for being all that I can be
I forgive me for falling apart when you saw her in my Eyes
I forgive me for always putting me last
I forgive me for I know the difference of Loving someone –
And being in Love with the someone
I forgive me
I forgive you



I'm not going to agree that forgiveness of self sets one free, I'm not sure one can fully forgive oneself. But the concept in an ideological manner is flawless as is this piece of yours Denise. My favorite lines:

'I forgive me for losing me in the we' - oh how often we do that yes? And then kick ourselves for losing ourselves.

"I forgive me for not loving your ego" - Jesus christ, how can we love ego? it's a soul eating entity. This is a beautiful piece.:heart:

LAMom's photo
Wed 10/29/08 08:02 AM


I’ve been told that forgiveness sets one free
Forgiveness in Body, Soul & Mind ease’s the pain
I forgive me for not Loving your Ego
I forgive me for wanting to live life in the Now
I forgive me for losing “Me” in the We
I forgive me for being all that I can be
I forgive me for falling apart when you saw her in my Eyes
I forgive me for always putting me last
I forgive me for I know the difference of Loving someone –
And being in Love with the someone
I forgive me
I forgive you



I'm not going to agree that forgiveness of self sets one free, I'm not sure one can fully forgive oneself. But the concept in an ideological manner is flawless as is this piece of yours Denise. My favorite lines:

'I forgive me for losing me in the we' - oh how often we do that yes? And then kick ourselves for losing ourselves.

"I forgive me for not loving your ego" - Jesus christ, how can we love ego? it's a soul eating entity. This is a beautiful piece.:heart:


Thank you Lovely,,,:heart:


This pondering or sorts was my way of releasing some pain in my life,,
Yep its all about me,,, lol... how funny a statement yet so true,, my way of excepting whats in front of me and what needs to lay behind me,,,I have so much to learn and so much more to grieve over yet wait in anticipation for the coming....

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