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Does time as we know it truly exist?
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No. It's all a figment of some higher being's imagination.
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gimme a minute and I'll tell you
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yeah I guess it does
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gimme a minute and I'll tell you 
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Time as we know it is based on relativity....studies are beginning to show a great deal of evidence to the belief that time is not a straight line, although the idea has been around for ages the concept is difficult for most to grasp and very difficult to explain in simple terms, at least for the purpose of general understanding. Time exists, yes, but not in the way we chose to understand it...the way we explain time is an effort to gain control of our circumstances..believing that we have some control is a comfort, the same way faith is a comfort to those who realize that somethings are not in their power to control....
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Time as we know it is based on relativity....studies are beginning to show a great deal of evidence to the belief that time is not a straight line, although the idea has been around for ages the concept is difficult for most to grasp and very difficult to explain in simple terms, at least for the purpose of general understanding. Time exists, yes, but not in the way we chose to understand it...the way we explain time is an effort to gain control of our circumstances..believing that we have some control is a comfort, the same way faith is a comfort to those who realize that somethings are not in their power to control.... 
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Time exists, there is absolutely no doubt about that. But our perception of time is an illusion based on our inability to move freely through time. Space-time is a single four dimensional object. From outside of space-time, an observer could see the beginning of the universe, end of the universe and anything in the middle.
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Edited by
Jess642
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Thu 12/18/08 12:59 PM
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Time...is an invention of humankind...in it's inherant need to label master, own everything.
Time is elastic... it has to be.... An example...We have all witnessed or heard of others who have witnessed, or been involved in a traumatic situation... ALL state that time appeared to slow down... that thought crystalised, actions were concise and fluid, and in the measurements we call time, achieved almost impossible feats in the allocated 'time'.. Or when really busy, and enjoying oneself...'time flies when you are having fun'. I suspect the metronome beat that we measure as time... is only as accurate as heartbeat. Humankind's insatiable need to 'know', master, and understand EVERYTHING..(and when they dont, create a theory, and then cool mathematical squiggles to justify it)... Another time is elastic thing... I am in Friday morning, 7.00 am... and interacting in a static environment... and yet for the northern hemisphere it is Thursday evening....(allegedly).. 
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Does time as we know it truly exist? "as we know it"??? Do we know it? What exactly is it? The only sensible, non-circular definition I've ever heard was based on "change of location". (Which makes it inextricable dependent upon space, but that's another topic.) If things change position, then by definition there is time. Simple enough. The tough question is, (and I think this may be what the OP was hinting at) do things acually change position, or do they just totally wink out of existence with a new one winking into existence at a different location? To our gross senses, it appears that it is the same object that is continuously moving. But to our gross senses, a film appears to represent moving objects, when in fact, every frame of the movie is a separate and distinct image having nothing in common with any other image. One image "winks on and off", then another, completely different image "winks on and off", etc. The mechanics of optical perception make it appear to be a single continuously changing image, but in fact it is made up of discretely separate and disctinctly different images. So how do we, or can we, know that what appears to be the same object, actually is the same object if it is in a different place? Following that, how can we even know that an object in the same place is the same object from one instant to the next? Just a little something I had to throw out there. 
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Time exists, there is absolutely no doubt about that. But our perception of time is an illusion based on our inability to move freely through time. Space-time is a single four dimensional object. From outside of space-time, an observer could see the beginning of the universe, end of the universe and anything in the middle. Your statement contradicts itself. If time exists, then describe it please. What is it? How is it measured? How much does it weigh? How large is it? 1. No time, as a "thing" does not exist. 2.But according to some people's standards we do move through time. (Don't I travel from the past to the present to the future?) Not really. I am always here now. Therefore, if time exists then it must travel through me. If it travels through me or past me while I exist here now, exactly what is time? If space-time is a single four dimensional object, can you describe it? What does it look like? What actually links the three dimensions of space to time to make it into a four dimensional object? |
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yep
it is truly 4:52 pm eastern standard time right at this very moment |
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Does time as we know it truly exist? "as we know it"??? Do we know it? What exactly is it? The only sensible, non-circular definition I've ever heard was based on "change of location". (Which makes it inextricable dependent upon space, but that's another topic.) If things change position, then by definition there is time. Simple enough. The tough question is, (and I think this may be what the OP was hinting at) do things acually change position, or do they just totally wink out of existence with a new one winking into existence at a different location? To our gross senses, it appears that it is the same object that is continuously moving. But to our gross senses, a film appears to represent moving objects, when in fact, every frame of the movie is a separate and distinct image having nothing in common with any other image. One image "winks on and off", then another, completely different image "winks on and off", etc. The mechanics of optical perception make it appear to be a single continuously changing image, but in fact it is made up of discretely separate and disctinctly different images. So how do we, or can we, know that what appears to be the same object, actually is the same object if it is in a different place? Following that, how can we even know that an object in the same place is the same object from one instant to the next? Just a little something I had to throw out there. veddy eenteresting...  I had a very strange experience once. I woke up and everything in my room had been taken and then replaced with exact replicas. It was really weird. |
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Edited by
quiet_2008
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Thu 12/18/08 01:54 PM
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Time as we know it is based on relativity....studies are beginning to show a great deal of evidence to the belief that time is not a straight line, although the idea has been around for ages the concept is difficult for most to grasp and very difficult to explain in simple terms, at least for the purpose of general understanding. Time exists, yes, but not in the way we chose to understand it...the way we explain time is an effort to gain control of our circumstances..believing that we have some control is a comfort, the same way faith is a comfort to those who realize that somethings are not in their power to control.... that was a really cool gif. I had to steal that one |
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veddy eenteresting... Did Stephen Wright get that joke from you or did you get it from him? I had a very strange experience once. I woke up and everything in my room had been taken and then replaced with exact replicas. It was really weird.
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veddy eenteresting... Did Stephen Wright get that joke from you or did you get it from him? I had a very strange experience once. I woke up and everything in my room had been taken and then replaced with exact replicas. It was really weird. Is he a comedian? I heard it from some stand up comedian and I thought it was really hilarious. |
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Edited by
quiet_2008
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Thu 12/18/08 02:09 PM
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as I understand it with my puny capacity to understand,
Time is simultaneous. Everything is happening at the same time instantaneously. and since we are anchored in time unable to traverse it we have to experience it in a linear fashion |
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Your statement contradicts itself. In what way? What is it? Time: A nonspatial continuum in which events occur in apparently irreversible succession from the past through the present to the future. How is it measured? With a clock. How much does it weigh? Time is not a physical dimension or object, therefore it doesn't have weight. How large is it? Any instant in time is equal in size to the universe. Time is a single direction in the four dimension universe, therefore time is actually the size of the entire universe over the entire course of it's existence. 1. No time, as a "thing" does not exist. No more than height or width exist as a thing. But height and width exist. 2.But according to some people's standards we do move through time. What people? I would say that rational people and all credible scientists believe that. What actually links the three dimensions of space to time to make it into a four dimensional object? Time is a dimension of our universe. For matter to exist, but without time makes no sense. How would you know that matter existed if it didn't exist for a period of time? You might as well as "How does height link to width and depth?" Now everybody can get all "philosophical" about time, but the fact that time exists and can be accurately measured isn't questioned in any branch of science. |
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as I understand it with my puny capacity to understand, Time is simultaneous. Everything is happening at the same time instantaneously. and since we are anchored in time unable to traverse it we have to experience it in a linear fashion Everything happens in infinity. It happens here, now. But perhaps the processes the perception of time is in relation to the observer's ability to process information. Time is a coordinate along with the three dimensions of space, that is used to locate an particular event in the spacetime matrix here. But I think every spiritual entity carries its own spacetime with them within their unified field. Not all spacetime is the same. In this spacetime reality, time is measured by the movement or position of matter through the space in relation to other matter. In your personal spacetime field, time is measured in relation to your thought processes. When you live in an spacetime reality other than your own personal energy field you are subject to their laws. Your spiritual self or higher mind processes thoughts so rapidly that it would appear that time in this world has stopped. Events are just events. They have a process and they exist in reality, but they are not all subject to the same spacetime properties. |
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Spider:
Time is measure with a clock? That is the funniest most unscientific answer I can imagine. How are clocks calibrated? Ultimately time depends entirely upon the position of objects in relation to each other. Locally that would be the journey of our earth around the sun which make one year, and the rotation of our earth that makes one day. Time is measured by movements of bodies through space. |
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