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Topic: Are we Arrogant?
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Sat 06/13/09 12:43 AM
While on Obama's trip to Europe , he stated that "we are an arrogant country."


In alphabetical order - Just Europe

1. The American Cemetery at Aisne-Marne , France . A total of 2289 of our military dead.

We Apologize.

2. The American Cemetery at Ardennes , Belgium . A total of 5329 of our dead.

We are arrogant.

3. The American Cemetery at Brittany, France . A total of 4410 of our military dead.

Excuse us.

<http://www.abmc.gov/images/br1w.jpg>

4. Brookwood , England American Cemetery . A total of 468 of our dead.

<http://www.abmc.gov/images/bk5.jpg>

5. Cambridge , England . 3812 of our military dead.

6. Epinal , France American Cemetery . A total of 5525 of our Military dead.

7. Flanders Field , Belgium . A total of 368 of our military.

8. Florence , Italy . A total of 4402 of our military dead.


9. Henri-Chapelle , Belgium . A total of 7992 of our military dead.


10. Lorraine , France . A total of 10,489 of our military dead.

11. Luxembourg , Luxembourg . A total of 5076 of our military dead.

12. Meuse-Argonne. A total of 14246 of our military dead.

13. Netherlands , Netherlands . A total of 8301 of our military dead.


14. Normandy , France . A total of 9387 of our military dead.

15. Oise-Aisne , France . A total of 6012 of our military dead.


16. Rhone , France . A total of 861 of our military dead.


17. Sicily , Italy . A total of 7861 of our military dead.

18. Somme , France . A total of 1844 of our military dead.

19. St. Mihiel , France . A total of 4153 of our military dead.

20. Suresnes , France . A total of 1541 of our military dead.



IF ADDED CORRECTLY THE COUNT IS 104,366.

Apologize to no one. Remind those of our sacrifice and don't confuse arrogance with leadership.

As Americans, let's all look forward to the next elections - to find a President who doesn't think we need to be ashamed.


May God have mercy on us until this presidential term is over!

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Sat 06/13/09 12:50 AM
we who stand stand tall and we who fight get blood on our hands , but it will never be inosent blood ,and we will always anser the call!

if the leader is blind, and death then why fallow him !

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Sat 06/13/09 01:02 AM
Bawls.:thumbsup:

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Sat 06/13/09 01:21 AM
arrogance
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Main Entry: ar·ro·gance
Pronunciation: \ˈer-ə-gən(t)s, ˈa-rə-\
Function: noun
Date: 14th century
: an attitude of superiority manifested in an overbearing manner or in presumptuous claims or assumptions

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Sat 06/13/09 03:21 AM
it takes arrogance to apologize for anothers arrogance without asking the people you are apologizing for first.

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Sat 06/13/09 03:26 AM
As I was sitting in church waiting for the start of the service, my grandpa came walking towards me pointing his finger. No matter how old I get, and no matter how long he's been out of the U.S. Navy, that's still an intimidating sight. As he approached me, his voice quivered as he said, "We saved that continent twice...how dare my president apologize for this country's arrogance." My grandpa is right. Americans need not apologize to the world for their arrogance; rather, Americans should apologize to their forefathers for the arrogance of their president.

Barack Obama's first foreign trip as President of the United States has confirmed the naiveté so many of us feared during the election cycle. But worse than that, it has also demonstrated that our president suffers from either a complete misunderstanding of our heritage and history, or an utter contempt for it. Neither is excusable.





Garnering cheers from the French of all people, President Obama declared, "In America, there is a failure to appreciate Europe's leading role in the world. Instead of celebrating your dynamic union and seeking to partner with you to meet common challenges, there have been times where America has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive." Consider that Obama spoke these words just 500 miles from the beaches of Normandy, where the sand is still stained with 65-year-old blood of "arrogant Americans."

Indeed, columnist Mark Whittington observes, "One should remind Mr. Obama and the Europeans how America has 'shown arrogance' by saving Europe from itself innumerable times in the 20th Century. World War I, World War II, the Cold War, and the wars in the Balkans were largely resolved by American blood, treasure, and leadership." But all that appears lost on the president's seemingly insatiable quest to mend fences he imagines have been tarnished by the bullish George W. Bush.

If Obama wishes to continue trampling the presidential tradition of showing class to former office holders and publicly trash Bush for his own personal gain, so be it. But all Americans should make clear that no man – even if he is the president – will tarnish the legacy of those Americans who have gone before us. Ours is not a history of arrogance. It is a history of courage, self-sacrifice, and honor.

When abusive monarchs repressed the masses, Americans resisted and overthrew them. When misguided policies led to the unjust oppression of fellow citizens, Americans rebelled and overturned them. When millions of impoverished and destitute wretches sought a new beginning, Americans threw open the door and welcomed them. When imperial dictators were on the march, Americans surrendered their lives to stop them. When communist thugs threatened world peace, Americans bled to defeat them. When an entire continent was overwhelmed with famine and hunger, Americans gave of themselves to sustain it. When terrorist madmen killed the innocent and subjugated millions, Americans led the fight to topple them.

This is the legacy that generations of Americans have left. If President Obama seeks stronger relations with the world community, perhaps he should begin by reminding them of these very truths, rather than condemning his own countrymen on foreign shores.

This "obsessive need to put down his own country," has caused blogger James Lewis to call President Obama a "stunningly ignorant man" who has evidently never spoken to a concentration camp survivor, a Cuban refugee, a boat person from Vietnam, a Soviet dissident, or a survivor of Mao's purges.

Unfortunately, I can no longer bring myself to give Mr. Obama that benefit of the doubt. Not after looking at the pain in my grandpa's eyes...a man who still carries shrapnel in his body from his service to this country.

As a student and teacher of history, I recognize that America has made mistakes...plenty of them, in fact. But one of the great things about our people has been their courage and humility in admitting and correcting those mistakes. God willing, they will prove that willingness again in four years and correct the mistake that is the presidency of Barack Obama.



http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=488996

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Sat 06/13/09 03:30 AM
We have a rock star president who for the first time in American history fired the President of a private corporation, General Motors, then immediately flew to Europe with an entourage of 500 courtiers and a worshipful media, bowed waist-deep to the King of Saudi Arabia, and proceeded to accuse his own country of arrogance.


In France, of all places.


Does anybody else think this guy is shockingly ignorant? I wonder if he has every really talked to a concentration camp survivor, or a Cuban refugee, or a boat person from Vietnam? Or a Soviet dissident. Or a survivor or Mao's purges.


Not to mention families with fallen American soldiers in the graveyards. Yes, he's going to Normandie, but will he apologize for our arrogance there, too? Does he really understand anything beyond the PC history of the world? Or will he just lie in his photo op at the American Cemetery at Normandy?


Ahhh, those arrogant Americans. First they rebel against King George III and all the crowned heads of Europe. Then they welcome tens of millions of poor and persecuted people from the Old World. Then they fail to bow down to Europe's greatest figures -- from Napoleon and Otto von Bismarck to the Kaiser, Hitler and Stalin. Then they fight a civil war, losing half a million people to liberate black people in America. Then they diss the man the BBC considers to be the greatest philosopher ever, one Karl Marx, whose followers killed 100 million innocents in the 20th century. And then, to top it all off, they liberate both the Western half of Europe (in 1946) and the Eastern half (in 1989).


What arrogance these Americans have. Either that, or a very, very -- no, stunningly -- ignorant man was just elected president -- largely because millions of benevolent voters believed that we owe black people a presidency. They may come to see that as their biggest mistake ever. In the next couple of years they will see a tripling of government debt, high inflation, a permanent loss in their personal wealth, and a major devaluation of the dollar.


Which, to judge by his recent television performance, should just make him giggle quite inappropriately, in front of God and everybody.

What kind of man has such an obsessive need to put down his own country? Especially given our real history? Has he ever read an honest history book?


http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/04/those_arrogant_americans_1.html

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Sat 06/13/09 06:19 AM

We have a rock star president who for the first time in American history fired the President of a private corporation, General Motors, then immediately flew to Europe with an entourage of 500 courtiers and a worshipful media, bowed waist-deep to the King of Saudi Arabia, and proceeded to accuse his own country of arrogance.


In France, of all places.


Does anybody else think this guy is shockingly ignorant? I wonder if he has every really talked to a concentration camp survivor, or a Cuban refugee, or a boat person from Vietnam? Or a Soviet dissident. Or a survivor or Mao's purges.


Not to mention families with fallen American soldiers in the graveyards. Yes, he's going to Normandie, but will he apologize for our arrogance there, too? Does he really understand anything beyond the PC history of the world? Or will he just lie in his photo op at the American Cemetery at Normandy?


Ahhh, those arrogant Americans. First they rebel against King George III and all the crowned heads of Europe. Then they welcome tens of millions of poor and persecuted people from the Old World. Then they fail to bow down to Europe's greatest figures -- from Napoleon and Otto von Bismarck to the Kaiser, Hitler and Stalin. Then they fight a civil war, losing half a million people to liberate black people in America. Then they diss the man the BBC considers to be the greatest philosopher ever, one Karl Marx, whose followers killed 100 million innocents in the 20th century. And then, to top it all off, they liberate both the Western half of Europe (in 1946) and the Eastern half (in 1989).


What arrogance these Americans have. Either that, or a very, very -- no, stunningly -- ignorant man was just elected president -- largely because millions of benevolent voters believed that we owe black people a presidency. They may come to see that as their biggest mistake ever. In the next couple of years they will see a tripling of government debt, high inflation, a permanent loss in their personal wealth, and a major devaluation of the dollar.


Which, to judge by his recent television performance, should just make him giggle quite inappropriately, in front of God and everybody.

What kind of man has such an obsessive need to put down his own country? Especially given our real history? Has he ever read an honest history book?


http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/04/those_arrogant_americans_1.html


The American thinker? Some one assumes all Americans think alike or wants them to. Seems to me 'the author' has not read much about history themselves.

How dare we admit to past ignorance and arrogance, after all we are the greatest country in the world, we can justify anything we damn well please... that's not arogance... :angel:

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Sat 06/13/09 06:31 AM
how dare Obama speak for all of us.

Im not sorry to be PROUD to be an american.

catwoman96's photo
Sat 06/13/09 06:37 AM
and thankful.

I am thankful. to be an american.

and happy not to be an iraqui.
or an iranian.
or anything else.


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Sat 06/13/09 07:18 AM
When you're the best it's not arrogant, it's just a fact.

graysteed's photo
Sat 06/13/09 07:48 AM
why should we have too weaght four years, why cant we start now, impeachment is for the pepole ,by the pepole and , with the pepole !

he is no longer a democrat , am msulem , or black , he was elected to be presadent of the united states!

it is past time to talk , rant, wish, and beg! ACT NOW IT IS CALLED GRASS ROOT ! ARE YOU WITH ME ?

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Sat 06/13/09 08:28 PM
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yellowrose10's photo
Sat 06/13/09 08:39 PM
since I can't pull up the link....I'm going to assume the dead listed are from WWII. if that is the case...we were brought into the war. If we hadn't then Hilter would have defeated our allies because they were tired from the war. We have nothing to apologize for. Not sure why he did apologize.

but then again...like I said in another thread...our military is the reason we are able to speak freely to this day. whether we like what is said or not.

as far as the President speaking for "we"...wrong. if he feels the need to apologize for something...then he can do that for HIM

Giocamo's photo
Sat 06/13/09 08:42 PM

and thankful.

I am thankful. to be an american.

and happy not to be an iraqui.
or an iranian.
or anything else.




drinker


metalwing's photo
Sat 06/13/09 08:48 PM

since I can't pull up the link....I'm going to assume the dead listed are from WWII. if that is the case...we were brought into the war. If we hadn't then Hilter would have defeated our allies because they were tired from the war. We have nothing to apologize for. Not sure why he did apologize.

but then again...like I said in another thread...our military is the reason we are able to speak freely to this day. whether we like what is said or not.

as far as the President speaking for "we"...wrong. if he feels the need to apologize for something...then he can do that for HIM


drinker

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Sat 06/13/09 08:49 PM
now with that being said...I would still rather see the actual speech

this (i believe) is where the OP came from

http://letterfromthelake.blogspot.com/2009/05/whats-wrong-with-respecting-other.html

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Sat 06/13/09 08:57 PM
I was very disappointed by Obama's statements and he angered a great many Americans with such a callous statement. Many are angry with him and rightfully so, but it is not an impeachable infraction and needs to be put in the light of where the world is. I believe he over stepped what was acceptable in trying to mend fences particularly when he was so close to those places where American lives were lost.

I agree we should not be ashamed of being Americans or the sacrifices our troops have made both past and present. But I am ashamed that 8 years ago and again 4 years later we elected a man who so clearly did not understand the ideals of freedom by which our country became great. If Obama had apologized for that I would not have had a problem but of course as president he cannot so disparage a past president. Obama made a bad choice in trying to correct the errors made by Bush, but that's as far as I will take this blunder.

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Sat 06/13/09 09:05 PM
This topic is exactly why you don't elect presidents that have not served in the military.No honor.Obama would never risk his life for this country.Mccain would never pull this crap if he was running the show.

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Sat 06/13/09 09:15 PM

While on Obama's trip to Europe , he stated that "we are an arrogant country."


In alphabetical order - Just Europe

1. The American Cemetery at Aisne-Marne , France . A total of 2289 of our military dead.

We Apologize.

2. The American Cemetery at Ardennes , Belgium . A total of 5329 of our dead.

We are arrogant.

3. The American Cemetery at Brittany, France . A total of 4410 of our military dead.

Excuse us.

<http://www.abmc.gov/images/br1w.jpg>

4. Brookwood , England American Cemetery . A total of 468 of our dead.

<http://www.abmc.gov/images/bk5.jpg>

5. Cambridge , England . 3812 of our military dead.

6. Epinal , France American Cemetery . A total of 5525 of our Military dead.

7. Flanders Field , Belgium . A total of 368 of our military.

8. Florence , Italy . A total of 4402 of our military dead.


9. Henri-Chapelle , Belgium . A total of 7992 of our military dead.


10. Lorraine , France . A total of 10,489 of our military dead.

11. Luxembourg , Luxembourg . A total of 5076 of our military dead.

12. Meuse-Argonne. A total of 14246 of our military dead.

13. Netherlands , Netherlands . A total of 8301 of our military dead.


14. Normandy , France . A total of 9387 of our military dead.

15. Oise-Aisne , France . A total of 6012 of our military dead.


16. Rhone , France . A total of 861 of our military dead.


17. Sicily , Italy . A total of 7861 of our military dead.

18. Somme , France . A total of 1844 of our military dead.

19. St. Mihiel , France . A total of 4153 of our military dead.

20. Suresnes , France . A total of 1541 of our military dead.



IF ADDED CORRECTLY THE COUNT IS 104,366.

Apologize to no one. Remind those of our sacrifice and don't confuse arrogance with leadership.

As Americans, let's all look forward to the next elections - to find a President who doesn't think we need to be ashamed.


May God have mercy on us until this presidential term is over!


Even with all of our support around the world we are arrogant. We were arrogant, selfish and unjust with Iraq. We are arrogant in assuming that all other humans on this planet are somehow less worthy of life than we are. The list goes on and on.

I love my country, America is it but the truth is the truth and we have done and acted arrogantly with little regard for others.

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