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Topic: Im so embarresed to call myself an American!!
BrandonJItaliano's photo
Sat 08/22/09 08:16 AM
Edited by BrandonJItaliano on Sat 08/22/09 08:30 AM
What has become of my rights? As a single father i have to fight for everything with my only daughter, where my ex doesnt. Ive payed over 15,000 dollors in lawyers fee all because un wed parents in the state of oklahoma, the female has all the legal rights even though she has abandoned the child, legally speaking.

This Government is so blind to what is going on that they will never lead, effectivly, ever again. This country is so divided and hate filled that its reminincant of the American Cival War. We have such need to dominate others who are differnt, we forget the similiarities.


This has turned into such a selfious and bigoted nation of emotionally blind sub humans that im embarresed to call myself an American. This place has replaced the idea of a naturally guided society where everyone and everything has its own place, to some sepia colored cesspool with a grotesque shadow of the humanity and freedom that this once great nation was founded on!!

Have you ever wondered what Franklin Delano Roosevelt would think of this country as it sets now? What Martin Luther King would think? Even Bobby Kennedy?

There are those who say "Well just leave then", Thats such a cowardice way of thinking. "If you see something wrong, run away". Thats a big problem with this country, its full of people who do just that.

We have the highest rate of taxation in the world, why? So we can have the biggest/strongest military? So we can distroy anyone who disagrees with us?

"If only each king, emperor, or president understood that his work of directing armies is not an honourable or important duty, as his flatter pursuade him it is, but a bad an shameful act of preparation for Murder-and if each private indivdual understood that the payment wherewhith to hire adn equip soldiers, and above all, military service itself, are not matters of indifference, but are bad and shamefull actions by which he not only permits but participates in the act of Murder-then this power of emperors, kings and presidents, which now arouses our indignation, would disappear itself all together"--Leo Tolstoy

Even the Bible states, in the latin, NON OCCIDES, Thou shall not kill.

The highest taxiation in the world, our rights "taken away" on a daily basis, no accountable of our own government from there own misdeeds,grotesque expenditures of living on themselves while taxpayes suffer burdens we wouldnt expect out of a somalian donkey, come on people. Its time to abandon the "If you dont like it, leave" mentality and take up a new montra "Stay, repair and hold accountable" and make this a place where we dont have to be ashamed and embarresed anymore!!

I cant belive this is the land for which i came!!

newarkjw's photo
Sat 08/22/09 08:28 AM
I personally was never that proud to begin with......smokin

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Sat 08/22/09 08:30 AM
yeah father rights are coming around, just not fast enough...the woman has always had more control, whether she deserved it or not..gov't needs to do a better job determining the best home for the child no matter which parent it is...

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Sat 08/22/09 08:31 AM
I guess you have to travel the world to APPRECIATE what we got!!!! There is NO PLACE like home!!!!

BrandonJItaliano's photo
Sat 08/22/09 08:36 AM

I guess you have to travel the world to APPRECIATE what we got!!!! There is NO PLACE like home!!!!


Ive been a few places lol, there are alot of places on this earth more embracing of human rights than this place and some completly on the other end of the spectrum however

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Sat 08/22/09 08:38 AM
""We have the highest rate of taxation in the world,""


Totally false....
You better check your numbers
....Corporate taxes or individual Taxes....take your pick....



digger56's photo
Sat 08/22/09 08:39 AM
I truly understand your frustration with the system. My son is going through the same thing. His ex chose and abusive boyfriend and drugs over her son. My son now has custody, but she expects him to provide ways for her to visit the son. She has hired an attorney and my son is expected to pay for her attorney. This is not right. She recieved child support for 5 months and she didn't even have the child! This is so wrong.

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Sat 08/22/09 08:39 AM

yeah father rights are coming around, just not fast enough...the woman has always had more control, whether she deserved it or not..gov't needs to do a better job determining the best home for the child no matter which parent it is...


I gotta jump in here... I have never gotten my child support because he lied, moved around, changed jobs and worked under the table. I won't say it is easy on the guy, not all of us moms got it our way either....If I were to get all my back support I could retire and put my boys through college...

grneyedldy1967's photo
Sat 08/22/09 08:40 AM
Maybe you should say you are ashamed of our government rather than our country.. I dunno. I'm proud to be an American but I'm not proud of the ebarrassment of a government and so called president that we have.

BrandonJItaliano's photo
Sat 08/22/09 08:45 AM
Edited by BrandonJItaliano on Sat 08/22/09 08:47 AM

""We have the highest rate of taxation in the world,""


Totally false....
You better check your numbers
....Corporate taxes or individual Taxes....take your pick....





Total numbers, Corp 39% and State at 12%, individ, 35% and 10.3%, payroll, 15.3% and state up to 10.3%


Check out taxfoundation.com, youll find that im not, we passed japan in early 09 might i add

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Sat 08/22/09 08:48 AM
As a Canadian I feel I have no right to comment on your government, however you do sound like a very loving and dedicated Father and for that I commend you and hope things will work out fo you.
Good Luckflowerforyou

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Sat 08/22/09 08:52 AM


altho there is nothing wrong in appreciating what you got...its how you get it that is more in tune with this topic...jmo..and for the most i would have to agree with the thread subject ..but unfortunately for those of us who understand what is wrong with the u.s we don't have any power unless we stand up united against it..
the old money and the crooked government keep us oppressed and powerless...but then theres the idiot that we are content with

watching as we guzzle our beer and smoke our overtaxed cigarettes in the name of sin..sin being descrimination against those who smoke when the government is clearly responsible,whether it be the lack of oversight in the real estate markets or bernie madoff..tho it is true and we live here lets face it venting our rants against it on a dating site will probably produce NADA (nothing) other than to remind those of us who already know that the government of this country needs an overhaul

while they set off in jets and write off all they do or want on the taxpayers back..as they fund the companies that frauded millions out of millions in home equity and forced them to live in tents ..while they sent our boys into war for whatever reason suited them at the time we like lambs have been continually slaughtered, if allowed to progress our ancestors will be the logs on their yuletide fires warming their azzes at christmas time..marshmallows anyone...

.....is it time for a good ole' civil war or.... it is time for a good ole' civil war...the question remains...jmo


..the fact is that the majority are too fat and lazy or too complacant to do anything other than rant on a dating site....

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Sat 08/22/09 08:55 AM


I guess you have to travel the world to APPRECIATE what we got!!!! There is NO PLACE like home!!!!


Ive been a few places lol, there are alot of places on this earth more embracing of human rights than this place and some completly on the other end of the spectrum however
Me...36 countries on 4 Continents....Again there is NO PLACE LIKE HOME!!!!

BrandonJItaliano's photo
Sat 08/22/09 08:55 AM



altho there is nothing wrong in appreciating what you got...its how you get it that is more in tune with this topic...jmo..and for the most i would have to agree with the thread subject ..but unfortunately for those of us who understand what is wrong with the u.s we don't have any power unless we stand up united against it..
the old money and the crooked government keep us oppressed and powerless...but then theres the idiot that we are content with

watching as we guzzle our beer and smoke our overtaxed cigarettes in the name of sin..sin being descrimination against those who smoke when the government is clearly responsible,whether it be the lack of oversight in the real estate markets or bernie madoff..tho it is true and we live here lets face it venting our rants against it on a dating site will probably produce NADA (nothing) other than to remind those of us who already know that the government of this country needs an overhaul

while they set off in jets and write off all they do or want on the taxpayers back..as they fund the companies that frauded millions out of millions in home equity and forced them to live in tents ..while they sent our boys into war for whatever reason suited them at the time we like lambs have been continually slaughtered, if allowed to progress our ancestors will be the logs on their yuletide fires warming their azzes at christmas time..marshmallows anyone...

.....is it time for a good ole' civil war or.... it is time for a good ole' civil war...the question remains...jmo


..the fact is that the majority are too fat and lazy or too complacant to do anything other than rant on a dating site....



i agree, but not a war, Gandhi proved a better way. You can lead a revolt just by empowering the minds of the people, just by saying no to a regieme and starve them out of power.

I filed a lawsuit with the ACLU here in OK, ive been active in ending this subjigation for a long time, and i will till the day i die


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Sat 08/22/09 08:59 AM



I guess you have to travel the world to APPRECIATE what we got!!!! There is NO PLACE like home!!!!


Ive been a few places lol, there are alot of places on this earth more embracing of human rights than this place and some completly on the other end of the spectrum however
Me...36 countries on 4 Continents....Again there is NO PLACE LIKE HOME!!!!


50 years ago, i would've agreed wholeheartedly, but now, no way

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Sat 08/22/09 09:02 AM




I guess you have to travel the world to APPRECIATE what we got!!!! There is NO PLACE like home!!!!


Ive been a few places lol, there are alot of places on this earth more embracing of human rights than this place and some completly on the other end of the spectrum however
Me...36 countries on 4 Continents....Again there is NO PLACE LIKE HOME!!!!


50 years ago, i would've agreed wholeheartedly, but now, no way
DAMM Im not that oldlaugh laugh laugh Hey I know what your going thru with your child. Been there and DONE that...Check out Fathers For Equal Rights....A GREAT organization!!!!!

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Sat 08/22/09 09:26 AM
ummm wring again....see below

Country Income Tax
Corporate Individual

VAT
Argentina 35% 9-35% 21%
Australia 30% 17-45% 10%GST
Austria 25% 21%-50% 20%
Belgium 33.99% 25-50% 21%
Brazil 34% 7.5-27.5% 17-25%
Bulgaria 10% 10% 20%
Canada 19.5%(federal) 15-29%(Federal) 5%(gst)
China 25% 5-45% 17%
Cyprus 10% 20-30% 15%
Czech Rep. 20% 15% 19%
Denmark 25% 38-59% 25%
Egypt 20% 10-20% 10%gst
Estonia 21% 20% 20%
Finland 26% 7.0-30.5% 22%
France 33.33% 5.5-40% 19.6%
Germany 30-33%(effective) 14-45% 19%
Gibraltar 27% 0-40% -
Greece 25% 0-40% 19%
Hong kong 16.5% 2-17% -
Hungary 16% 18% and 36% 25%
India 30-40% 10-30% 12.5%
Indonesia 28% 5-30% 10%
Ireland 12.5% 20-41% 21.5%
Israel 26% 10-46% 16.5%
Italy 31.4% 23%-43% 20%
Japan 30% 5-50% 5%(consump)
Latvia 15% 23% 21%
Lithuania 20% 15%/20% 19%
Luxemburg 21% 0-38% 15%
Malta 35% 15-35% 18%
Mexico 28% 0-28% 15%
Monaco 33.33% 0% 19.6%
Morocco 35% 0-41.5% 20%
Montenegro 9% 12% 17%
Netherlands 20-25.5% 0-52% 19%
New Zealand 30% 0-39% 12.5%gst
Norway 28% 28-49% 25%
Pakistan 35% 0-25% 15%
Philippines 30% 5-32% 12%
Poland 19% 18%/32% 22%
Portugal 25% 0-42% 20%
Romania 16% 16% 19%
Russia 20% 13% 18%
Saudi Arabia 20% 20% --
Serbia 10% 10-20% 18%
Singapore 18% 3.5%-20% 7% (gst)
Slovakia 19% 19% 19%
Slovenia 21% 16%-41% 20%
South Africa 28% 0-40% 14%
Spain 30% 24-43% 16%
Sweden 26.3% 0-57% 25%
Taiwan 25% 6-40% 5%
Thailand 30% 5-37% 7%
Tunisia 30% 15-35% 18%
Turkey 20% 15-35% 18%
U.K. 28% 0-40% 15%
Ukraine 25% 15% 20%
U.S.A. 15-35% 15-35% -
Vietnam 25% 5-35% 10%
Zambia 35% 0-35% 16%


""We have the highest rate of taxation in the world,""


Totally false....
You better check your numbers
....Corporate taxes or individual Taxes....take your pick....





Total numbers, Corp 39% and State at 12%, individ, 35% and 10.3%, payroll, 15.3% and state up to 10.3%


Check out taxfoundation.com, youll find that im not, we passed japan in early 09 might i add

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Sat 08/22/09 10:57 AM
I undertstand an sympathize with your frustration concernin the court system an father's rights. However, it's not just father's who get screwed by the system. There are millions of Mothers who are raising their children with no help from the fathers. Fathers who owe millions in child support, who won't have anything to do with their children an they get away with it daily. Instead of making this a Mother Vs Father issue, why not make it a responsible Parent vs Irresponsible parent issue? shades


I've also visited an lived in many different countries thanks to the Air Force. There's no other country I'd ever want to call home but the United States Of America. shades

MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 08/22/09 11:18 AM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Sat 08/22/09 11:21 AM
:smile: We have no rights whatsoever.:smile: Its all about money now.:smile: Wake up people.:smile: Its been this way for years.:smile: You have to spend thousands of dollars on a lawyer to have any of your (nonexistant)rights enforced.:smile: The goverment (and their cops) have all the rights.:smile: Im embarressed too.:smile: This "Land of the free" crap is all a big fat liegrumble Sorry if that upsets anyone but the truth hurts:smile:

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Sat 08/22/09 11:33 AM
The US isn't the most perfect country but ya know what neither is any other country on this planet. There's no such thing as a Utopian society. It'll never happen. It's always gonna be the "haves an the have nots". Why? Cause we are human beings with all the emotions an fragilities that come with bein human beings. There's always gonna be someone who isn't satisfied with what they have, an want what the "Jones'" have. I choose to appreciate what I do have an not sit an bi@tch about what I don't. shades

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