I agree with the OP. Its not worth the rape charge. And it you are with a girl who is going back and forth on the "no" word, just walk away. She's immature and not worth the trouble she'll be in the long run.

Can I open this topic up just a little more? Women, don't dress "heezy fo sheezy" if you don't plan on getting some. A lot of women act all surprised and victimizied when they wear sexually suggestive clothing and then men come on to them, and they never anticipated it. If you're going to play games, you better be prepared to show your cards, because someone may call your bet.

Okay, dragging this specifically from my other topic, as it has always fascinated me.

I was taught that No means No! Period. No if, ands or buts about it. It was ingrained so much that even with fantasy games, "no" is not used, unless it was truly meant to be stopped. Find another word for the game.

I've had guy friends get pissed off because their girlfriends would use it jokingly. And then eventually the gals would get serious, but the guys didn't know the difference, and would get in trouble. One friend even had rape charges brought about, though they were later dropped.

I can understand their confusion. And I do agree that it was a crappy way of dealing with things.

But guys, there's a way to handle this. It's a basic retraining method along the lines of dog obedience. When she says "No", stop. Get up, walk away. You may not like it, and she may be confused, but it's saving your arse. When she asks, tell her point blank. "Don't use that word unless you are deadly serious and mean it". If it's part of a game, find a different word. Back off when she says it enough times, and she'll stop saying it.

No one said it will be easy, especially if you are both hot and horny, but isn't that prefereable to a rape charge?

I have to disagree with you on this. Clothes have very little to do with people behaving like f@cktards. What a woman wears, should not give a man cart blanche on HIS behavior. Now granted, some women have no idea the difference between sexy and sleazy...big difference. Some are attention whores and that's all they got to work with. But men need to be responsible for their own actions and also not be shocked if HE gets smacked for inappropriate behavior.

Can I open this topic up just a little more? Women, don't dress "heezy fo sheezy" if you don't plan on getting some. A lot of women act all surprised and victimizied when they wear sexually suggestive clothing and then men come on to them, and they never anticipated it. If you're going to play games, you better be prepared to show your cards, because someone may call your bet.

Can I open this topic up just a little more? Women, don't dress "heezy fo sheezy" if you don't plan on getting some. A lot of women act all surprised and victimizied when they wear sexually suggestive clothing and then men come on to them, and they never anticipated it. If you're going to play games, you better be prepared to show your cards, because someone may call your bet.

Maybe so, but if you're advertising a product, don't you think you might want to sell that product. And maybe if a particular client is being rude to you, you can politely ask them to go look elsewhere for their particular needs? Men are responsible, just not all men. perhaps you haven't met the "Horndogs." They usually come out on Friday and Saturday nights.

Can I open this topic up just a little more? Women, don't dress "heezy fo sheezy" if you don't plan on getting some. A lot of women act all surprised and victimizied when they wear sexually suggestive clothing and then men come on to them, and they never anticipated it. If you're going to play games, you better be prepared to show your cards, because someone may call your bet.

Wow are you digging yourself into a whole and it tells a WHOLE LOT of how YOU view women on a whole with that post right there. The words "product" and "selling" are two words you should not associate with women. Sorry, but that's how a douchebag perceives women. If a man cannot control himself if he is with a scantily dressed woman, then perhaps he should be locked up and kept away from the general population. What happens when he goes to the beach and a woman is in a bathing suit? Should he have the right to assault her verbally or physically because of the way she is dressed?

If you don't assume that what a woman wears means she wants sex, you'll be fine. Listen to her words. If she says no, back off.

We know that, but what a woman wears expresses something about her intent, doesn't it? You get all dolled up and wear sexy perfume and an outfit, but you only go to the Club to have a good time, and nothing more? Don't oversell yourself if you don't want to, that's all I'm saying.

Well, I understand where you're coming from and I agree that women should be more sensitive to men in regards to this issue. Many women do not realize or do not care that their appearance will greatly affect many men. They don't understand the impact their appearance can have and I wish they did. Or they find it amusing or they so desperately need the attention that they don't care.

I do not believe for one moment that a man cannot control himself to the point he has to rape a woman because he is so consumed with lust. No matter how scantily clad she is, he does not have the right to sexually assault her. However, she is putting herself in a dangerous situation as there are men who see her as making some sort of non-verbal agreement to engage in sexual activity because of her appearance. That does not excuse the man for his actions but it is something for women to consider as a safety issue.

Uh, no. Nice try. Go to the Club some night, and you'll see what I'm talking about. It's a meat market there and it's not just about dancing and having a good time. Oh, and on the beach? If you are dressed in an attractive two-piece bikini-thong, expect to be approached by men, that's just how it is, not what I think. Do not presume to judge me, I am merely an observer of human behavior.