Museums work for me. Public place, lots of available conversation topics if needed, low pressure (anxiety is not my friend), and there's usually a place nearby to eat if we want. I don't like the purely coffee-and-chat first date because I stress out too much about whether we'll like each other. I'm not good enough at small talk to cover an hour's worth of boredom, and having one person leave early is so embarrassing.

Oh let's see. Some of this goes back some years.

1. College sporting event, Gymnastics (1)
2. Dinner w/ drinks (7)
3. No date required; arranged(10)
4. Hit it off at party/event (3)
5. Text/Email/Phone (4)
6. Sports: Running, shooting (3)
7. Hot tubbing invite (1)
8. Dinner at my place (1)
9. Dinner and Theatre (Play) downtown
10. Bar, pub crawl (4)

It was difficult to put this together. I realized that very rarely do I ever invent a "date" with someone I don't really know. Usually, I go out with someone I've already had some shared experience with, so it doesn't really feel like a first date.

For example, I met my last gf at a running event and that lasted for well over a year. By "running event", I mean there were 156 half-drunk people in red dresses running through Toledo. And when I say, "met", well you get the idea.

Another one lives two hours away. A mutual friend hooked us up and we started a text and phone relationship. When she came down to see me... well it wasn't for a "date".

She had something come up just before her second trip and that left me at a social event with no date. The girl across the table, whom I bumped into now and again with this running group said, "Oh I wouldn't stand you up!" So I invited her to meet me at a bar afterward. And she did.

Another girl posted that she was taking stuffed peppers out of the oven. She asked if I wanted to come over for dinner and eat them in the hot tub. Well, I did.

Sometimes, I just happen to be one of the last ones standing at a party and a girl might need a "cuddle buddy" or maybe something more.

But again... I don't have to design a fancy date.

Mainly, I'm just a nice guy at the right place at the right time.

I've had very healthy relationships from the most bizarre beginnings, some quite debaucherous. If there's a formula out there, I don't know what it is.

Which is pretty much what I, in my very advanced age, was saying,
for which I was so strongly rebuked.

I don't live my life and dreams through someone else. I'm NOT my mother. I'm just the person that likes showing how I feel when it feels good. Is it so bad to show them positive projections of you inner most feelings? I guess I was a wee bit confused when I asked the question. This is what I really meant.

no, Im referring to the point immediately before this dialogue when the poster asked if people could stop BASHING beliefs, and I bot it and agreed

and others said they got it, but didnt agree,,,,

the point was about BASHING others beliefs

if a mother believes in prayer alone for cancer..whose business is it


is someone else being asked to look after that child, or is she going to be the one doing it?


if someone wanted to make this a 'christian nation', how is that any better or worse than making it a 'democratic nation',, until you have some CLUE of what their personal interpretation of the phrase means?

judgmental thinking makes people feel pressured not to be able to draw upon their personal experiences but to follow 'studies' and statistics instead

because we live in a nation of HUMANS we have both judgmental thinking that bullies others and twisted thinking that results in bad choices

right and wrong are not a matter of what studies say or what others tell us, its a matter of how our actions affect the world

EVERY freaking issue is not an issue of being right and wrong, any more than it is about being better or worse, its about peoples PERSONAL Experiences and what has worked FOR THEM

that logic is every bit as detrimental to society as the 'witch hunting' philosophies referred to by non believers

Is it wrong to find your happiness in others? Whether its caring, loving or friendship. Noticing them. Does it make you a selfish person to want to make others feel happy and have the happiness returned?

Why can't we all just believe what we believe??
Why must it always be a debate?
Why do we find fault with others beliefs?
Why must we bash others for their convictions?
Who are we to judge anyone when we ain't so swift ourselves?
Why is the flippin sky blue?
Who really gives a F what others think of us?

Ok......

I'm Done!!!!!



Does anyone get my point?????????

I wasn't asking for his response.

He listed a few cars and their cost, which is a big factor in why people aren't using them. You didn't seem to like that response. He asked you for cheaper examples of alternative energy and you never gave them. So, do you not have cheaper examples?

agree to skip right to the second one first dates have a tendancy to be AWKWARD!!!!!

Hello Singme...

Well this was invi's answer to the original post...

"Russia will run out of oil.. We won't ever run out of weapons.."

Discuss it with Con....He has all the answers