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Topic: DIVINE INTERVENTION
FindMe1113's photo
Tue 07/13/10 11:44 AM
Has the Almighty ever rescued/saved you from a life threatening situation?

If so, what was it?

Abracadabra's photo
Tue 07/13/10 12:16 PM
I don't know about "the Almighty", but I do feel that my spiritual essence has been a determining factor in the outcome of many events in my life concerning matters of life and death. I won't go into the details of the events. Suffice it to say that 'living on borrowed' time is a cliché that pretty well sums up the essence of my existence today. bigsmile


mightymoe's photo
Tue 07/13/10 12:29 PM
no, when it's your time to go, you will.

Abracadabra's photo
Tue 07/13/10 12:36 PM

no, when it's your time to go, you will.


That's quite an interesting thought. If we can only die when some 'Almighty' being permits it, then it's kind of silly to think about the 'Almighty' saving anyone's life. It's either your time to go, or it isn't.

I personally feel that the choice of when to die is really up to us. Although it may not seem to appear that way on the surface there are philosophies that offer rationale for this vantage point.

FindMe1113's photo
Tue 07/13/10 01:17 PM

no, when it's your time to go, you will.


But, what if it's not, but the circumstance makes you believe it is?

CowboyGH's photo
Tue 07/13/10 02:58 PM

Has the Almighty ever rescued/saved you from a life threatening situation?

If so, what was it?


Yes he has. God brought me back to life from a car wrech and being dead for roughly 40 minutes and a 4 month coma. But that isn't divine intervention. Intervention would only happen if God took away one's free will.

msharmony's photo
Tue 07/13/10 05:12 PM

Has the Almighty ever rescued/saved you from a life threatening situation?

If so, what was it?



all the time, I consider my consciense to be Gods pipeline,,,,it has many times stopped me from doing things that would have ended up harming me or others I love

I went jogging at the park when I was younger and my consciense told me two things , first it told me not to go,,,,but I ignored that voice thinking that I was just talking myself out of exercise out of laziness

second it told me, if I go, take protection(which I NEVER did before),, so I grabbed a small screwdriver and put it in my pocket


that was the time I was sexually assaulted at the park, but had I not had the WILL to fight the creep (motivated largely by my decision to carry protection),, it could have been worse


another time, my cousins took the kids somewhere in their car and the teens wanted to take my baby,,but my cousin had no car seat,,the kids wanted to just hold her and , being half asleep, I almost said ok,,,,but something grabbed me and caused me think about it harder so I insisted they take my car seat from my car and put it in their car for the baby,,,,,,that was the first , last, and ONLY time the kids were ever in an accident, driver crossed right in front of them and totalled their car

that car seat saved my baby


feels to me like God speaks to me all the time through my consience, I just dont ALWAYS listen close enough

msharmony's photo
Tue 07/13/10 05:12 PM


Has the Almighty ever rescued/saved you from a life threatening situation?

If so, what was it?


Yes he has. God brought me back to life from a car wrech and being dead for roughly 40 minutes and a 4 month coma. But that isn't divine intervention. Intervention would only happen if God took away one's free will.



thank goodness,, wasnt your time to go

mightymoe's photo
Tue 07/13/10 06:05 PM


no, when it's your time to go, you will.


But, what if it's not, but the circumstance makes you believe it is?


if you didn't die, then it wasn't your time...doesn't matter what your mind tells you. there has been a few times when i thought i was going to die, and after the 1 and 2 time, i believed that too... then i realized that god, fate, whatever you want to call it, has a specific time when when we go, so live as much as you can, it won't be forever.

dannyguy78's photo
Fri 07/16/10 10:02 PM
This whole topic of free will, and divine intervention is a real challenge. I have heard stories of people standing looking at an angry person, holding a fully loaded weapon, and that person eventually pulling the trigger multiple times, and not one bullet ever striking them. I have heard stories of a man attempting suicide, and his weapon, though fully functional earlier that day, misfiring multiple times in a row. And even after inspecting, reloading, and attempting again, still misfiring. Then the next day, without doing anything to fix it, pick up the same weapon, and it fire every round in the clip without a misfire.

All that said, I believe we have a free will. We can choose to do stupid things. And so can others. I just believe that God is watching, and constantly intervening to keep His will on track. He has a plan and purpose for every living thing He created. I don't necessarily believe that the moment you fulfill your major function on this planet that all of a sudden you will die. I do believe that God allows some things to happen, and chooses to then turn those tragedies into good things in the lives that it impacted, and at other times, He steps in and totally stops tragedies from occurring.

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Sat 07/17/10 01:46 AM
Edited by Milesoftheusa on Sat 07/17/10 01:47 AM

Has the Almighty ever rescued/saved you from a life threatening situation?

If so, what was it?


http://www.ktvz.com/news/24286560/detail.html

Foliel's photo
Mon 07/19/10 03:08 PM
Edited by Foliel on Mon 07/19/10 03:10 PM
Not me, the only interventions i ever received were from family or friends. They have always been my pipeline to life. They make me happy and they are there when I am depressed. When I attempted suicide, my mother was there to help me back.

My mom, sisters and best friend have always been there for me. If God had something to do with it, so be it, but at this point in time I have no proof one way or the other.

I was hit by a car when I was 7, my moms priest told her to pull the plug and let me go...I woke up from my 3 month coma, 3 days later. My sheer stubbornness pushed me to wake up. No way a dr was telling my mom i was gonna die.

I know some may say that it was god's will that i lived, but I know it was me. I pushed me to wake up.

mightymoe's photo
Mon 07/19/10 03:32 PM

Not me, the only interventions i ever received were from family or friends. They have always been my pipeline to life. They make me happy and they are there when I am depressed. When I attempted suicide, my mother was there to help me back.

My mom, sisters and best friend have always been there for me. If God had something to do with it, so be it, but at this point in time I have no proof one way or the other.

I was hit by a car when I was 7, my moms priest told her to pull the plug and let me go...I woke up from my 3 month coma, 3 days later. My sheer stubbornness pushed me to wake up. No way a dr was telling my mom i was gonna die.

I know some may say that it was god's will that i lived, but I know it was me. I pushed me to wake up.


your mind controls everything, it's good that you were able to force it out. i really don't think god intervenes with our lives, he really does have better things to do.

no photo
Tue 07/20/10 10:23 AM
divine intervention cancels out "Free Will" ...it also displays how God's divine plan has kinks or mistakes in it that need to be corrected which rules out God being omniscient


Abracadabra's photo
Tue 07/20/10 11:00 AM

divine intervention cancels out "Free Will" ...it also displays how God's divine plan has kinks or mistakes in it that need to be corrected which rules out God being omniscient


Not at all. Especially if you request it.

Humans intervene in the lives of other humans all the time. Doe that cancel out their "Free Will"?

Well, if your intervention upon another is against their will, then yes, you have gone against their Free Will.

However, if your intervention is in harmony with the wishes and desires of another person then you haven't canceled their Free Will at all, on the contrary you've helped to enable them to achieve the desire of their Will. In other words, you helped their Will to be FREE. bigsmile

no photo
Tue 07/20/10 12:33 PM


divine intervention cancels out "Free Will" ...it also displays how God's divine plan has kinks or mistakes in it that need to be corrected which rules out God being omniscient


Not at all. Especially if you request it.

Humans intervene in the lives of other humans all the time. Doe that cancel out their "Free Will"?

Well, if your intervention upon another is against their will, then yes, you have gone against their Free Will.

However, if your intervention is in harmony with the wishes and desires of another person then you haven't canceled their Free Will at all, on the contrary you've helped to enable them to achieve the desire of their Will. In other words, you helped their Will to be FREE. bigsmile


this is about "Divine Intervention" ...do you consider all humans to be divine? .....

CowboyGH's photo
Wed 07/21/10 11:30 AM
Edited by CowboyGH on Wed 07/21/10 11:31 AM



divine intervention cancels out "Free Will" ...it also displays how God's divine plan has kinks or mistakes in it that need to be corrected which rules out God being omniscient


Not at all. Especially if you request it.

Humans intervene in the lives of other humans all the time. Doe that cancel out their "Free Will"?

Well, if your intervention upon another is against their will, then yes, you have gone against their Free Will.

However, if your intervention is in harmony with the wishes and desires of another person then you haven't canceled their Free Will at all, on the contrary you've helped to enable them to achieve the desire of their Will. In other words, you helped their Will to be FREE. bigsmile


this is about "Divine Intervention" ...do you consider all humans to be divine? .....


We aren't divine? hmmmmmm

10:34
34Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are gods?

Psalm 82:6
"I said, 'You are "gods";
you are all sons of the Most High.

no photo
Wed 07/21/10 04:09 PM




divine intervention cancels out "Free Will" ...it also displays how God's divine plan has kinks or mistakes in it that need to be corrected which rules out God being omniscient


Not at all. Especially if you request it.

Humans intervene in the lives of other humans all the time. Doe that cancel out their "Free Will"?

Well, if your intervention upon another is against their will, then yes, you have gone against their Free Will.

However, if your intervention is in harmony with the wishes and desires of another person then you haven't canceled their Free Will at all, on the contrary you've helped to enable them to achieve the desire of their Will. In other words, you helped their Will to be FREE. bigsmile


this is about "Divine Intervention" ...do you consider all humans to be divine? .....


We aren't divine? hmmmmmm

10:34
34Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are gods?

Psalm 82:6
"I said, 'You are "gods";
you are all sons of the Most High.



the passages that you posts only proves that Christianity is actually Pantheism and that Jesus was preaching and promoting Pantheism and this is what it is meant when believers claim him to be a God...but then again according to you and those passages so is everyone

but the Original Poster made it clear that they were referring to Divine Intervention from the Almighty unless you believe that the term Almighty refers to the entire human race

CowboyGH's photo
Wed 07/21/10 04:21 PM





divine intervention cancels out "Free Will" ...it also displays how God's divine plan has kinks or mistakes in it that need to be corrected which rules out God being omniscient


Not at all. Especially if you request it.

Humans intervene in the lives of other humans all the time. Doe that cancel out their "Free Will"?

Well, if your intervention upon another is against their will, then yes, you have gone against their Free Will.

However, if your intervention is in harmony with the wishes and desires of another person then you haven't canceled their Free Will at all, on the contrary you've helped to enable them to achieve the desire of their Will. In other words, you helped their Will to be FREE. bigsmile


this is about "Divine Intervention" ...do you consider all humans to be divine? .....


We aren't divine? hmmmmmm

10:34
34Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are gods?

Psalm 82:6
"I said, 'You are "gods";
you are all sons of the Most High.



the passages that you posts only proves that Christianity is actually Pantheism and that Jesus was preaching and promoting Pantheism and this is what it is meant when believers claim him to be a God...but then again according to you and those passages so is everyone

but the Original Poster made it clear that they were referring to Divine Intervention from the Almighty unless you believe that the term Almighty refers to the entire human race


If you notice i quoted and replied to a statement saying "do you consider all humans to be divine"

no photo
Wed 07/21/10 05:08 PM






divine intervention cancels out "Free Will" ...it also displays how God's divine plan has kinks or mistakes in it that need to be corrected which rules out God being omniscient


Not at all. Especially if you request it.

Humans intervene in the lives of other humans all the time. Doe that cancel out their "Free Will"?

Well, if your intervention upon another is against their will, then yes, you have gone against their Free Will.

However, if your intervention is in harmony with the wishes and desires of another person then you haven't canceled their Free Will at all, on the contrary you've helped to enable them to achieve the desire of their Will. In other words, you helped their Will to be FREE. bigsmile


this is about "Divine Intervention" ...do you consider all humans to be divine? .....


We aren't divine? hmmmmmm

10:34
34Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are gods?

Psalm 82:6
"I said, 'You are "gods";
you are all sons of the Most High.



the passages that you posts only proves that Christianity is actually Pantheism and that Jesus was preaching and promoting Pantheism and this is what it is meant when believers claim him to be a God...but then again according to you and those passages so is everyone

but the Original Poster made it clear that they were referring to Divine Intervention from the Almighty unless you believe that the term Almighty refers to the entire human race


If you notice i quoted and replied to a statement saying "do you consider all humans to be divine"


when was the last time a human jumped into the air to rescue a falling airplace ....this is why "Divine" would apply to Supernatural entites or may refer to those that a supernatural entity granted special powers to ....this is why all humans are not divine and why Jesus was preaching Pantheism when he said that all you are Gods...

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