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TPM Muckraker is considered by many to a liberal website. I don't know if the facts sited in this article are true or not. They do a pretty good job of sourcing their arguments. Scenerios like Wisconsin are expected to be replicated in Ohio and New Jersey.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/02/wisconsin-gov-walker-ginned-up-budget-shortfall-to-undercut-worker-rights.php Just in. The word is that Dick Army and his FreedomWorks are busily organizing and funding a giant bussing project to flood Wisconsin with Teapartiers to confront the protesters. This could get ugly. |
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TPM Muckraker is considered by many to a liberal website. I don't know if the facts sited in this article are true or not. They do a pretty good job of sourcing their arguments. Scenerios like Wisconsin are expected to be replicated in Ohio and New Jersey. http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/02/wisconsin-gov-walker-ginned-up-budget-shortfall-to-undercut-worker-rights.php Just in. The word is that Dick Army and his FreedomWorks are busily organizing and funding a giant bussing project to flood Wisconsin with Teapartiers to confront the protesters. This could get ugly.  you said Dick!
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TPM Muckraker is considered by many to a liberal website. I don't know if the facts sited in this article are true or not. They do a pretty good job of sourcing their arguments. Scenerios like Wisconsin are expected to be replicated in Ohio and New Jersey. http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/02/wisconsin-gov-walker-ginned-up-budget-shortfall-to-undercut-worker-rights.php Just in. The word is that Dick Army and his FreedomWorks are busily organizing and funding a giant bussing project to flood Wisconsin with Teapartiers to confront the protesters. This could get ugly. It's not to "confront" the protesters. They have a voice also should they not be heard? |
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The only time trouble starts is when Liberals start up with their hating.
Teapartiers by and large are a peaceful bunch. |
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They have a voice also should they not be heard? Dick's Army absolutely has the right to make it's voice heard.
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The only time trouble starts is when Liberals start up with their hating. Like this? When I lost my job UAW 148 did nothing to help me get another job. We are talking NOT ONE GOD DAMN THING. No references, no counseling, Not ONE GOD DAMN THING! DONKEY FUQUE UAW 148 WITH A HUGE BLOATED SLAB OF FROZEN BEAST MEAT! That is how much I hate the UAW 148 and most other unions.
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TPM Muckraker is considered by many to a liberal website. I don't know if the facts sited in this article are true or not. They do a pretty good job of sourcing their arguments. Scenerios like Wisconsin are expected to be replicated in Ohio and New Jersey. http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/02/wisconsin-gov-walker-ginned-up-budget-shortfall-to-undercut-worker-rights.php Just in. The word is that Dick Army and his FreedomWorks are busily organizing and funding a giant bussing project to flood Wisconsin with Teapartiers to confront the protesters. This could get ugly. If true... Perhaps it is an answer to the BUSLOADS of Union 'shoulder strikers' from Detroit, Chicago, and DC... Paidfor, organized and bused by the DNC. In the past those that protest peacfully have been tea parties... and those that resort to violence and property destruction... Union's. One hopes that the consistent presence of public cameras will show the truth. (as long as search engines do not 'bury' selected ones). |
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TPM Muckraker is considered by many to a liberal website. I don't know if the facts sited in this article are true or not. They do a pretty good job of sourcing their arguments. Scenerios like Wisconsin are expected to be replicated in Ohio and New Jersey. http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/02/wisconsin-gov-walker-ginned-up-budget-shortfall-to-undercut-worker-rights.php Just in. The word is that Dick Army and his FreedomWorks are busily organizing and funding a giant bussing project to flood Wisconsin with Teapartiers to confront the protesters. This could get ugly. If true... Perhaps it is an answer to the BUSLOADS of Union 'shoulder strikers' from Detroit, Chicago, and DC... Paidfor, organized and bused by the DNC. In the past those that protest peacfully have been tea parties... and those that resort to violence and property destruction... Union's. One hopes that the consistent presence of public cameras will show the truth. (as long as search engines do not 'bury' selected ones). Yes in the past Unions did get agry with SCABS as they call them.. who comew in to try and break the unions. But I can not even recall the last time I have heard of any violence from union workers picketing. Picketing is a democratic right. do u have any idea or anyone else when a picket line were throwing rocks or anything else during a labor dispute? |
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The OP is misleading.
I checked. Organizing is for tea party folks that are IN the state of Wisconsin to be bused to the capitol. Not for people from outside the state to be 'flooded' into the state. SPIN. silent thunder. |
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As is so often the case, Wisconsin's largest public employee Unions are adjusting their protests in order to help resolve the impasse.
Top leaders of two of Wisconsin's largest public employee unions announced they are willing to accept the financial concessions called for in Walker's plan, but will not accept the loss of collective bargaining rights. http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/article_a05349be-3be1-11e0-b0a1-001cc4c002e0.html |
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Did you actually read the bill.
It does not 'get rid' of collective bargining. It DOES get rid of BINDING ARBITRATION... It DOES limit collective bargining to that of each sub union. (i.e. Police get something... teachers do not automatically get the same thing. Teachers get some concession... Police or firefighters do not automatically get the same thing. Makes sense to me. |
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Did you actually read the bill. No, I didn't read the bill. I let Politifact do that for me. Here's what their Truth-0-Meter had to say. http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2011/feb/18/scott-walker/wisconsin-gov-scott-walker-says-his-budget-repair-/ |
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Did they bother to POST the bill so you could 'truth O' meter' it yourself...
Might change your mind. |
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Did you actually read the bill. It does not 'get rid' of collective bargining. It DOES get rid of BINDING ARBITRATION... It DOES limit collective bargining to that of each sub union. (i.e. Police get something... teachers do not automatically get the same thing. Teachers get some concession... Police or firefighters do not automatically get the same thing. Makes sense to me. From what i have read that the Police, state patrol, prison guards and firefighters were not in this bill and are being left alone. Why are they better or something? |
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Bill does not (in any part I read) limit its scope to teachers...
It simply removes the ability of union negotiators to get a single 'binding arbitrator' to screw the state on behalf of unions. |
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You actually read all 144 pages of the bill? Sorry, I ain't gonna do that.
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You actually read all 144 pages of the bill? Sorry, I ain't gonna do that. Whatever... I read some 2000 pages of a Health care bill also (before it disapeared from the net). Took me a few months... I want to KNOW what the politicians are up to. And while we are discussing bills. The Presidents Budget... Is far to large to have been put together in the last few months... I am quite suspicious that it was prepared a long time before and they expected to intoduce it into a Democratic controlled house and Senate for quick 'reconcillation' and passage. I am attempting to get a chance to read it also and figure out where all the 'threads' lead. It should be an enlightening read... as its 'threads' should illuminate the puppet strings that are behind the recent legislative 'coup' within our government. |
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You actually read all 144 pages of the bill? Sorry, I ain't gonna do that. Whatever... I read some 2000 pages of a Health care bill also (before it disapeared from the net). Took me a few months... I want to KNOW what the politicians are up to. And while we are discussing bills. The Presidents Budget... Is far to large to have been put together in the last few months... I am quite suspicious that it was prepared a long time before and they expected to intoduce it into a Democratic controlled house and Senate for quick 'reconcillation' and passage. I am attempting to get a chance to read it also and figure out where all the 'threads' lead. It should be an enlightening read... as its 'threads' should illuminate the puppet strings that are behind the recent legislative 'coup' within our government. U mean the Repuplicans who want the poor to starve |
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You actually read all 144 pages of the bill? Sorry, I ain't gonna do that. Whatever... I read some 2000 pages of a Health care bill also (before it disapeared from the net). Took me a few months... I want to KNOW what the politicians are up to. And while we are discussing bills. The Presidents Budget... Is far to large to have been put together in the last few months... I am quite suspicious that it was prepared a long time before and they expected to intoduce it into a Democratic controlled house and Senate for quick 'reconcillation' and passage. I am attempting to get a chance to read it also and figure out where all the 'threads' lead. It should be an enlightening read... as its 'threads' should illuminate the puppet strings that are behind the recent legislative 'coup' within our government. U mean the Repuplicans who want the poor to starve No... I mean the small group of people that are pushing both parties. But the ones that passed a Health Care bill by attaching it to the budget might be a large part of it. It is sickening to me that such far reaching legislation should be passed by 'attaching' it to a budget vote. |
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Edited by
Milesoftheusa
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Sat 02/19/11 11:26 AM
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You actually read all 144 pages of the bill? Sorry, I ain't gonna do that. Whatever... I read some 2000 pages of a Health care bill also (before it disapeared from the net). Took me a few months... I want to KNOW what the politicians are up to. And while we are discussing bills. The Presidents Budget... Is far to large to have been put together in the last few months... I am quite suspicious that it was prepared a long time before and they expected to intoduce it into a Democratic controlled house and Senate for quick 'reconcillation' and passage. I am attempting to get a chance to read it also and figure out where all the 'threads' lead. It should be an enlightening read... as its 'threads' should illuminate the puppet strings that are behind the recent legislative 'coup' within our government. U mean the Repuplicans who want the poor to starve No... I mean the small group of people that are pushing both parties. But the ones that passed a Health Care bill by attaching it to the budget might be a large part of it. It is sickening to me that such far reaching legislation should be passed by 'attaching' it to a budget vote. Oh like the Patriot act that no one who passed it read before it was passed. then again thier was only 1 person who objected to it. Ron Paul from Tex. The News media who said what the whitehouse said about the act. Anyone one who does not support this Bill is UNAMERICAN. Remember? |
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