Topic: Is Waterboarding Torture?
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Sun 11/20/11 12:01 PM
Oi! You leave the queen alone, she's a nice wee woman who wouldnt hurt a fly

:wink: :wink: :wink:

And by the way, America is no way under British rule, ... I mean really?????

laugh

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 11/20/11 12:04 PM
actually it is Iceland who rules,since the Althing came a few hundred years before the Magna Carta!

mightymoe's photo
Sun 11/20/11 12:10 PM




and it really doesn't amount to a Hill of Beans!


That is what the devil will tell you before you sign the contract.

bigsmile bigsmile pitchfork


This. Conrad you have nary a clue of what you speak. For instance did you know our own Bill of Rights, and in fact other similar documents used in other countries around the world, is directly based off the Magna Carta? It's true. Think about that.....

Oh and as to your question, it's called digging for the facts, you know those things you don't seem to be very interested in?
I might have done a bit more research in it than you think,especially since our Constitution is similar to the US one!
Incorporates some of the important parts of it!

But it is your assertion that on those grounds the UK is still exerting Control,which would have to be political,not in similarities of Laws and Constitutions!


Would you believe a good amount of the Presidents going back a while are related by bloodline? Or that quite a few amongst it relate back to the Queen?

You will have to face facts sooner or later, all is far from what it appears to be.


all of them but 2 are connected/related to a 17 century monarch... if i can find the article, i'll post it here...

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Sun 11/20/11 12:20 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 11/20/11 12:21 PM

Oi! You leave the queen alone, she's a nice wee woman who wouldnt hurt a fly

:wink: :wink: :wink:

And by the way, America is no way under British rule, ... I mean really?????

laugh


I'll leave her alone alright, as long as she stays out of America.

But if she comes here, I'll stock up on garlic and wooden stakes.

And chocolate.

rofl rofl

legocollector29's photo
Wed 11/23/11 09:46 PM
Waterboarding is torture, taking funny pictures of naked terrorists is NOT lol.

msharmony's photo
Fri 11/25/11 02:52 PM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 11/25/11 02:53 PM

Waterboarding is torture, taking funny pictures of naked terrorists is NOT lol.


IN a culture where such things are punishable by DEATH,, it could certainly be classed as TERRORIZING to the person going through it.

I personally consider it torturous if it causes long term physical damage(broken bones, bruises, cuts, brain damage,,etc).

Psychological stress is a natural part of life that people either get over or they dont. I guess because I have done the latter, I dont consider it torturous.

no photo
Fri 11/25/11 06:17 PM
Also it is degrading, unkind, rude, disrespectful, and mental torture.

Its disgusting.

If you can't show some comman decency to another human being, enemy or not, you are also a piece of chit and no better than them.




msharmony's photo
Fri 11/25/11 08:13 PM
common decency is for common situations

there are numerous situations that dont fit the bill...

HawaiiMusikMan's photo
Fri 11/25/11 09:12 PM
Yes, waterboarding is torture

HawaiiMusikMan's photo
Fri 11/25/11 09:15 PM

Yes, waterboarding is torture


Unless you have some sick, twisted fetish about drowning that is

msharmony's photo
Fri 11/25/11 09:18 PM


Yes, waterboarding is torture


Unless you have some sick, twisted fetish about drowning that is



I doubt fulfilling fetishes is an efficient way to get information from less than cooperative people.....

Bestinshow's photo
Fri 11/25/11 09:19 PM



Yes, waterboarding is torture


Unless you have some sick, twisted fetish about drowning that is



I doubt fulfilling fetishes is an efficient way to get information from less than cooperative people.....
All this could be avoided if we didnt attack and invade someone elses homeland. If they dont like it well we will just torture them.

This country is simply vile.

HawaiiMusikMan's photo
Fri 11/25/11 09:21 PM
Edited by HawaiiMusikMan on Fri 11/25/11 09:21 PM




Yes, waterboarding is torture


Unless you have some sick, twisted fetish about drowning that is



I doubt fulfilling fetishes is an efficient way to get information from less than cooperative people.....
All this could be avoided if we didnt attack and invade someone elses homeland. If they dont like it well we will just torture them.

This country is simply vile.


I agree


msharmony's photo
Fri 11/25/11 09:22 PM




Yes, waterboarding is torture


Unless you have some sick, twisted fetish about drowning that is



I doubt fulfilling fetishes is an efficient way to get information from less than cooperative people.....
All this could be avoided if we didnt attack and invade someone elses homeland. If they dont like it well we will just torture them.

This country is simply vile.



although I concede with a certain amount of 'staying out' of it, I also understand the humanity of 'getting involved'

and I , for the life of me, cant figure out how people determine who violated, attacked, invaded,, whom first

seems we are all continually reacting to each other,,dont know if its possible to stop it now,,,,

HawaiiMusikMan's photo
Fri 11/25/11 09:37 PM
Edited by HawaiiMusikMan on Fri 11/25/11 09:37 PM





Yes, waterboarding is torture


Unless you have some sick, twisted fetish about drowning that is



I doubt fulfilling fetishes is an efficient way to get information from less than cooperative people.....
All this could be avoided if we didnt attack and invade someone elses homeland. If they dont like it well we will just torture them.

This country is simply vile.




although I concede with a certain amount of 'staying out' of it, I also understand the humanity of 'getting involved'

and I , for the life of me, cant figure out how people determine who violated, attacked, invaded,, whom first

seems we are all continually reacting to each other,,dont know if its possible to stop it now,,,,



Stop torture. That's a start

msharmony's photo
Fri 11/25/11 09:41 PM






Yes, waterboarding is torture


Unless you have some sick, twisted fetish about drowning that is



I doubt fulfilling fetishes is an efficient way to get information from less than cooperative people.....
All this could be avoided if we didnt attack and invade someone elses homeland. If they dont like it well we will just torture them.

This country is simply vile.




although I concede with a certain amount of 'staying out' of it, I also understand the humanity of 'getting involved'

and I , for the life of me, cant figure out how people determine who violated, attacked, invaded,, whom first

seems we are all continually reacting to each other,,dont know if its possible to stop it now,,,,



Stop torture. That's a start


whose job will it be to define what 'torture' is?

HawaiiMusikMan's photo
Fri 11/25/11 09:44 PM







Yes, waterboarding is torture


Unless you have some sick, twisted fetish about drowning that is



I doubt fulfilling fetishes is an efficient way to get information from less than cooperative people.....
All this could be avoided if we didnt attack and invade someone elses homeland. If they dont like it well we will just torture them.

This country is simply vile.




although I concede with a certain amount of 'staying out' of it, I also understand the humanity of 'getting involved'

and I , for the life of me, cant figure out how people determine who violated, attacked, invaded,, whom first

seems we are all continually reacting to each other,,dont know if its possible to stop it now,,,,



Stop torture. That's a start


whose job will it be to define what 'torture' is?


Until you've been waterboarded, you don't know what you're talking about

msharmony's photo
Fri 11/25/11 10:03 PM








Yes, waterboarding is torture


Unless you have some sick, twisted fetish about drowning that is



I doubt fulfilling fetishes is an efficient way to get information from less than cooperative people.....
All this could be avoided if we didnt attack and invade someone elses homeland. If they dont like it well we will just torture them.

This country is simply vile.




although I concede with a certain amount of 'staying out' of it, I also understand the humanity of 'getting involved'

and I , for the life of me, cant figure out how people determine who violated, attacked, invaded,, whom first

seems we are all continually reacting to each other,,dont know if its possible to stop it now,,,,



Stop torture. That's a start


whose job will it be to define what 'torture' is?


Until you've been waterboarded, you don't know what you're talking about


is that also true of those who oppose it but have never experienced it?

HawaiiMusikMan's photo
Fri 11/25/11 10:09 PM









Yes, waterboarding is torture


Unless you have some sick, twisted fetish about drowning that is



I doubt fulfilling fetishes is an efficient way to get information from less than cooperative people.....
All this could be avoided if we didnt attack and invade someone elses homeland. If they dont like it well we will just torture them.

This country is simply vile.




although I concede with a certain amount of 'staying out' of it, I also understand the humanity of 'getting involved'

and I , for the life of me, cant figure out how people determine who violated, attacked, invaded,, whom first

seems we are all continually reacting to each other,,dont know if its possible to stop it now,,,,



Stop torture. That's a start


whose job will it be to define what 'torture' is?


Until you've been waterboarded, you don't know what you're talking about


is that also true of those who oppose it but have never experienced it?


I've seen enough online videos to support my theory

msharmony's photo
Fri 11/25/11 10:18 PM










Yes, waterboarding is torture


Unless you have some sick, twisted fetish about drowning that is



I doubt fulfilling fetishes is an efficient way to get information from less than cooperative people.....
All this could be avoided if we didnt attack and invade someone elses homeland. If they dont like it well we will just torture them.

This country is simply vile.




although I concede with a certain amount of 'staying out' of it, I also understand the humanity of 'getting involved'

and I , for the life of me, cant figure out how people determine who violated, attacked, invaded,, whom first

seems we are all continually reacting to each other,,dont know if its possible to stop it now,,,,



Stop torture. That's a start


whose job will it be to define what 'torture' is?


Until you've been waterboarded, you don't know what you're talking about


is that also true of those who oppose it but have never experienced it?


I've seen enough online videos to support my theory



viewing videos doesnt count as actually having 'been waterboarded' though

I was just curious if the criteria was consistent for both sides,,,,