Topic: Borderline Diabetes- How to handle it and get things in chec
Mystique42's photo
Sun 04/01/12 02:37 PM
My fasting blood sugar level came back as 119. My doc sent a letter
saying the tests came back normal, but I am aware of borderline diabetes. Has anyone had an luck in lowering their numbers and reversing it? My mother is a type 2 diabetic.

I sure don't want to end up there.

oldhippie1952's photo
Sun 04/01/12 03:28 PM

My fasting blood sugar level came back as 119. My doc sent a letter
saying the tests came back normal, but I am aware of borderline diabetes. Has anyone had an luck in lowering their numbers and reversing it? My mother is a type 2 diabetic.

I sure don't want to end up there.


A lot of doctors will tell you there is no such thing as borderline diabetes, either you are starting to be or not.

Eat protein foods more, fat and carbs translate into sugar more readily. I control my type 2 with diet and my A1C was 5.9 last time; very healthy as 6.0 to 7.0 is considered a "normal" range.

My diet is mostly meat protein...that is due to the fact I have ESRD as well. It's not very tasty, I crave more carbs. But good luck with the issue.

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Sun 04/01/12 03:51 PM


My fasting blood sugar level came back as 119. My doc sent a letter
saying the tests came back normal, but I am aware of borderline diabetes. Has anyone had an luck in lowering their numbers and reversing it? My mother is a type 2 diabetic.

I sure don't want to end up there.


A lot of doctors will tell you there is no such thing as borderline diabetes, either you are starting to be or not.



This is true.

I’ve been a diet controlled diabetic since my first pregnancy 19yrs ago. The only advice I would give your or anyone is to educate yourself on the different types of sugars in your diet and in food in general – you’d be surprised!!!

Also get as much advice as you can from the appropriate health professional(s). The best piece of realistic advice I got about managing my diabetes was from a diabetic nurse.

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Sun 04/01/12 04:01 PM



My fasting blood sugar level came back as 119. My doc sent a letter
saying the tests came back normal, but I am aware of borderline diabetes. Has anyone had an luck in lowering their numbers and reversing it? My mother is a type 2 diabetic.

I sure don't want to end up there.


A lot of doctors will tell you there is no such thing as borderline diabetes, either you are starting to be or not.



This is true.

I’ve been a diet controlled diabetic since my first pregnancy 19yrs ago. The only advice I would give your or anyone is to educate yourself on the different types of sugars in your diet and in food in general – you’d be surprised!!!

Also get as much advice as you can from the appropriate health professional(s). The best piece of realistic advice I got about managing my diabetes was from a diabetic nurse.



This is quite true, definitely need to get advice from health care professionals and not forum folks.

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Sun 04/01/12 05:43 PM
Edited by Spidercmb on Sun 04/01/12 05:53 PM

My fasting blood sugar level came back as 119. My doc sent a letter
saying the tests came back normal, but I am aware of borderline diabetes. Has anyone had an luck in lowering their numbers and reversing it? My mother is a type 2 diabetic.

I sure don't want to end up there.


Switch to a high fat, moderate protein, low carb diet. Both carbs and protein can raise your blood sugar, but protein doesn't have as huge of an effect as carbs. Fat has no effect on your blood sugar. I've created a topic about my low carb diet and the types of foods I eat and other's have joined in with their experiences and opinions.

Low carb food

heavenlyboy34's photo
Sun 04/01/12 06:55 PM


My fasting blood sugar level came back as 119. My doc sent a letter
saying the tests came back normal, but I am aware of borderline diabetes. Has anyone had an luck in lowering their numbers and reversing it? My mother is a type 2 diabetic.

I sure don't want to end up there.


Switch to a high fat, moderate protein, low carb diet. Both carbs and protein can raise your blood sugar, but protein doesn't have as huge of an effect as carbs. Fat has no effect on your blood sugar. I've created a topic about my low carb diet and the types of foods I eat and other's have joined in with their experiences and opinions.

Low carb food

I agree with this ^^ Carbs will spike your insulin and further inflame your body-do this enough and you will get insulin resistance and then diabetes. Stick to low carb foods-protein, veggies, fruit (and a cheat meal once a week).

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Sun 04/01/12 07:06 PM

I agree with this ^^ Carbs will spike your insulin and further inflame your body-do this enough and you will get insulin resistance and then diabetes. Stick to low carb foods-protein, veggies, fruit (and a cheat meal once a week).


Skip the cheat meal if you can.

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Sun 04/01/12 09:23 PM
Edited by mssilverfox on Sun 04/01/12 09:25 PM
I've been a type 2 diabetic for 25 yrs...On a low carb diet it is easier to keep your sugar under control.. Get as much info as you can from a professional.. I eat a lot of oatmeal which helps me a lot, put some cinnamon on it and that will help if you have high blood pressure... I also have a thyroid problem and on med for that so its a vicious cycle sometimes.. Also, get lots of exercise.. that will help alot. I went on the Nutrisystem diet one time for 2 months and my A1C was 5.1 when I was tested the next time.. That diet is a low carb one... good luck

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Mon 04/02/12 04:51 AM
Saturated fats and trans fats are linked to type 2 diabetes and weight gain as well as cholesterol problems, amongst other things.

Healthy fat sources are nuts, seeds, vegetable oils and fish.

So watch those fats if you go that route! I'll stick to my hi protein low fat low carb menu. My cheat meal is a can of cashews every now and then. laugh

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Mon 04/02/12 06:13 AM

Saturated fats and trans fats are linked to type 2 diabetes and weight gain as well as cholesterol problems, amongst other things.


No, no, no! A thousand times no!


Dietary fat intake and risk of type 2 diabetes in women

Conclusions: These data suggest that total fat and saturated and monounsaturated fatty acid intakes are not associated with risk of type 2 diabetes in women, but that trans fatty acids increase and polyunsaturated fatty acids reduce risk. Substituting nonhydrogenated polyunsaturated fatty acids for trans fatty acids would likely reduce the risk of type 2 diabetes substantially.



Healthy fat sources are nuts, seeds, vegetable oils and fish.


Vegetable oils? Those are not healthy fats!!!! Vegetable oil is artificially made by a chemical process, your body has no idea how to use those oils. Coconut oil, Olive oil, both are great. Canola, peanut, corn and all the other Frankenfats are terrible for you.

A healthy fat would be grass fed beef fat, which is rich in Omega 3 fatty acids. Even grain fed beef fat is far better than vegetable oils.


So watch those fats if you go that route! I'll stick to my hi protein low fat low carb menu. My cheat meal is a can of cashews every now and then. laugh


Look, what you need to understand is that what you are stating is a hypothesis from the 1950's, which has no scientific support. Saturated fat intake cannot make you fat. That's actually a biological impossibility. Insulin tells your body to store fat, a low carb diet tells your body to stop storing fat. If you ate a diet of 90% fat and 10% protein, it would be impossible for you to gain body fat, regardless of how many calories you consumed. Saturated fat intake cannot raise your pattern B LDL cholesterol (the bad kind of cholesterol). Pattern B LDL is created when your body doesn't have ENOUGH animal fats.

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Mon 04/02/12 10:02 AM
Saturated fats and trans fats are linked to type 2 diabetes and weight gain as well as cholesterol problems, amongst other things.


No, no, no! A thousand times no!

Spidercmb i have to disagree on this one

i avoid these anyway that i can

the only good oil now is olive oil and Coconut oil
they now sell more olive oil than is produced

oils from fresh nuts and seeds and avocados are still good

stay away from all soy except natural soy sauce in small amounts

these GMO transfats partially or fully are in everything today

also MSG has secretly made a huge comeback under
35 different names allowed by the fda

eat as least you can of GMO sugars and no diet
or light products

look for pure cane sugar, molasses, honey or pure stevia

not splena ,aspertame, hfcs,corn sugar or sucralose


Vegetable oils? Those are not healthy fats!!!! Vegetable oil is artificially made by a chemical process, your body has no idea how to use those oils. Coconut oil, Olive oil, both are great. Canola, peanut, corn and all the other Frankenfats are terrible for you.

A healthy fat would be grass fed beef fat, which is rich in Omega 3 fatty acids. Even grain fed beef fat is far better than vegetable oils.

yes but these are now extremely hard to come by

the stores are like the candy counters you visit before you go to the movies they all sell junk

even the vegetables in the stores arent very good for you now

so grow your own or buy some off your neighbors

almost 100% of corn grown in us is GMO
africa doesnt even want our corn

we all need nutrient dense foods not high carb empty calories

you should break out your moms old cookbooks

you can substitute apple sauce and olive oil for most fats

and oatmeal and other grains for flour(watch rising)

enriched flour = 100 % of vitamins removed replaced by 10 %

now you just have to eat 9 times more for vitamins

buy tomato paste or sauce and add spices

spices are loaded with good stuff for you

never in premade jars with hfcs

i cant find healthy food in the stores myself around here

get 15-30 min (no more) of full sun each day for your vitamin d

http://www.youtube.com/movie?v=wvzDHGLEUyw&ob=av1e&feature=mv_sr

http://www.youtube.com/movie/dying-to-have-known?feature=mv_e_rel




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Mon 04/02/12 07:45 PM


Saturated fats and trans fats are linked to type 2 diabetes and weight gain as well as cholesterol problems, amongst other things.


No, no, no! A thousand times no!


Dietary fat intake and risk of type 2 diabetes in women

Conclusions: These data suggest that total fat and saturated and monounsaturated fatty acid intakes are not associated with risk of type 2 diabetes in women, but that trans fatty acids increase and polyunsaturated fatty acids reduce risk. Substituting nonhydrogenated polyunsaturated fatty acids for trans fatty acids would likely reduce the risk of type 2 diabetes substantially.



Healthy fat sources are nuts, seeds, vegetable oils and fish.


Vegetable oils? Those are not healthy fats!!!! Vegetable oil is artificially made by a chemical process, your body has no idea how to use those oils. Coconut oil, Olive oil, both are great. Canola, peanut, corn and all the other Frankenfats are terrible for you.

A healthy fat would be grass fed beef fat, which is rich in Omega 3 fatty acids. Even grain fed beef fat is far better than vegetable oils.


So watch those fats if you go that route! I'll stick to my hi protein low fat low carb menu. My cheat meal is a can of cashews every now and then. laugh


Look, what you need to understand is that what you are stating is a hypothesis from the 1950's, which has no scientific support. Saturated fat intake cannot make you fat. That's actually a biological impossibility. Insulin tells your body to store fat, a low carb diet tells your body to stop storing fat. If you ate a diet of 90% fat and 10% protein, it would be impossible for you to gain body fat, regardless of how many calories you consumed. Saturated fat intake cannot raise your pattern B LDL cholesterol (the bad kind of cholesterol). Pattern B LDL is created when your body doesn't have ENOUGH animal fats.


So you disagree with doctors? Their ideas seem to work for me!

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Mon 04/02/12 09:42 PM

So you disagree with doctors? Their ideas seem to work for me!


Any doctor who claims that vegetable fats are healthy, saturated fat is bad for you or causes diabetes or cholesterol problems, yes, I disagree with them. So does the preponderance of scientific data on the subject.

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Mon 04/02/12 09:54 PM
Edited by Dragoness on Mon 04/02/12 09:57 PM

My fasting blood sugar level came back as 119. My doc sent a letter
saying the tests came back normal, but I am aware of borderline diabetes. Has anyone had an luck in lowering their numbers and reversing it? My mother is a type 2 diabetic.

I sure don't want to end up there.


I have been diagnosed as full blown diabetic and have mine under control with diet and exercise. No medication.

I gave up almost all white bread, noodles, cereal, rice, potatoes. I only eat them in very small portions once a week or less. Usually as a treat if I go out to eat.

I eat pumpernickel bread, wassa bread, dark rye bread in moderation when I have sandwiches and only open faced sandwiches (using one slice with the meat and cheese on top of it.

Meat and veges.
Natural peanut butter, the one without the hydrogenated oil
Almonds the raw ones


Low fruit but I do that because I am full blown diabetic, fruit is good for you if your sugar is under control

NO JUICE!!!!!!!

My treats are dark chocolate with peanut butter or the raw almonds and 2 percent milk.

I drink soy milk most of the time to keep my cholesterol down.

NO JUICE!!!!!

FAKE SUGARS RAISE YOUR BLOOD SUGAR so they are just as bad for you as real sugar if you are diabetic.

I have MS so I have to do low impact exercise. I walk weather allowing 2-3 miles three times a week. I have lots of pain just doing that but it still works great for keeping the blood sugar down.

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Tue 04/03/12 02:40 AM
As you can see, you can quote different doctors or sources and different people have different experiences. That is why I agreed to you seeing a health specialist and get the skinny on what is going around nowadays.

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Tue 05/22/12 06:26 PM
Edited by volant7 on Tue 05/22/12 06:31 PM
ask your doctor what they know about nutrition?

they know what the pharmaceutical companys tell them

take more pills

why the sudden rise in diabetes now?

as they load MSG and TRANSFATS in every meal

Spidercmb is right grass fed saturated fats are healthy

but thats not what were eating

pure stevia is great but try bying it anywhere

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwVHeHhiLfU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTs408Nzl0A

galendgirl's photo
Tue 05/22/12 06:27 PM

My fasting blood sugar level came back as 119. My doc sent a letter
saying the tests came back normal, but I am aware of borderline diabetes. Has anyone had an luck in lowering their numbers and reversing it? My mother is a type 2 diabetic.

I sure don't want to end up there.


Exercise and diet...
Working for me.

mssilverfox's photo
Tue 05/22/12 07:38 PM

ask your doctor what they know about nutrition?

they know what the pharmaceutical companys tell them

take more pills

why the sudden rise in diabetes now?

as they load MSG and TRANSFATS in every meal

Spidercmb is right grass fed saturated fats are healthy

but thats not what were eating

pure stevia is great but try bying it anywhere

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwVHeHhiLfU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTs408Nzl0A






In regards to what the drs know...I am a type 2.. In the last year I have gotten off two medications (one I was on for 9 yrs).. I had been having severe leg cramps and not one dr that I ask could tell me why.. It was from Actos that I was taking for my sugar.. The other med was simvastatin and then Crestor for my cholesterol..It was giving me bad headaches and muscle pain.. The statins are bad meds and should not be taken.. They can damage your heart and liver/kidneys.. The drs only know what the reps are telling them.. I research all my meds on the internet.. I am now down to 3am and 2pm plus a small amount of insulin..

galendgirl's photo
Tue 05/22/12 07:41 PM


My fasting blood sugar level came back as 119. My doc sent a letter
saying the tests came back normal, but I am aware of borderline diabetes. Has anyone had an luck in lowering their numbers and reversing it? My mother is a type 2 diabetic.

I sure don't want to end up there.


Exercise and diet...
Working for me.


The chips and salsa I'm eating tonight are NOT part of the overall healthy eating plan...

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Tue 05/22/12 08:37 PM
I don't know everything about the OP and can't make a specific comment about that problem. However, I can tell you that my trainer put me on a very low-carb/high protein and veggie diet. As others have pointed out, sugars spike insulin and this leads to insulin resistance and eventually diabetes. Cut out the carbs and sugars. And when you are calculating carbs in various foods, the way you figure net carbs is total carbs-fiber=net carbs. I am a very active person, and I typically make my plate half veggies and a fistful or more of a protein. Hope this helps! drinker