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Topic: Obama's Health Care Bill has a hidden agenda..
Lpdon's photo
Tue 07/17/12 01:27 AM
yawn

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 07/17/12 03:36 AM

I heard he was gonna offer everybody free bacon!
from Pigs that died of Swine-Flu!

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 07/17/12 03:37 AM

Isn't everyone required to have a chip implanted somewhere in this too? Thought there was.....

Also heard there's a part in there about housing sales too, that is whatever price you sell for, the government takes a percentage of it off the top. WHY IS THIS IN A HEALTHCARE BILL??
to pay for the Healthcare you won't get!!!!!!!!!!!!!

no photo
Tue 07/17/12 06:11 AM

I have two arms. Is that enough?tongue2
no, cause that means you can only hold 2 guns :tongue:

Jenknee's photo
Tue 07/17/12 12:30 PM
Thanks jenniebean for posting all the key points of the HC law. I had studied the HC3200 bill but had been putting off studying this law.

I wish someone made a video with the keypoints with the HC law directly on the screen so I can send it to any naysayer.

It will literally be the final nail in the coffin for a lot of us :(

HotRodDeluxe's photo
Tue 07/17/12 01:40 PM

...to shred the constitution and the Bill of Rights.


Well now we know. For those of us out here who might actually care to read the HealthCare bill, the same one our Supreme Court is now wasting time on considering the constitutionality of its federal mandate when instead they should be ruling on the hidden provisions within which shred the Constitution and Bill of Rights, we find the true purpose listed by item in more than 2 thousand pages of treason.

It’s no wonder Nancy Pelosi said pass it first and find out later when you get down to the nitty gritty of what is hidden within the following pages:

PG 22 MANDATES the gov will audit all books of all employers who self insure

Pg 29 lines 4 thru 16 Healthcare rationing you can only receive so much care per year regardless of your needs 5000$per individual 10000$per family

Pg 30 sec 123 there will be a gov committee that decides what benefits and treatments you will receive

Pg 42 the healthcare commissioner will choose your healthcare benefits for you. You have no choice

Pg 52 healthcare will be provided to all non us citizens illegal or otherwise

Pg 58 the government will have real time access to your finances and a national ID card will be issued.

Pg 59 lines 21 thru 24 the government will have direct access to your bank accounts for elective funds transfers

Pg 65 sec 164 this is a pay off subsidized plan for retirees and their families in unions and community organizations such as ACORN

PG 72 LINES 8 thru 14 here the government is creating a health care exchange to bring private health care plans under government control

Pg 84 sec 203 the government mandates all benefit packages for private health care plans in the exchange.

Pg 85 line 7 AARP members your healthcare will be rationed

Pg 91 lines 4 thru 7 government mandates linguistic appropriate services for translation for illegal aliens

Pg 95 lines 8 thru 18 the government will use groups like ACORN and AMERICORE to sign up individually for government health care plan.

Pg 102 lines 12 thru 18 medicade eligible individuals will be automatically enrolled in medicade you have no choice

Pg 124 lines 24 thru 25 no company can sue the government on price fixing and there will be no judicial review against the government monopoly

Pg 126 lines 22 thru 25 employers must pay for health care for part time employees and their families

Pg 127 lines 1 thru 16 doctors and the American medical association; the government will tell you how much money you can make

Pg 145 lines 15 thru 17 all employers must enroll employees into the government plan you have no choice Pg 149 lines 16 thru 24 an employer with a payroll of 400k dollars and up who does not provide the government option will pay an 8 percent tax on all payroll

Pg 150 line 9 thru 13 any employer with a payroll between 251k thru 400 who does not provide the government option will pay a 2 to 6 percent tax on all payroll

Pg 167 any individual who does not have acceptable health care coverage according to the government will be taxed 2.5 percent

Pg 170 lines 1 thru 3 any non resident alien is exempt from individual taxes you and I will pay for them

Pg 195 officers and employees of the health care administration will have access to all Americans financial and personal records

Pg 203 lines 14 thru 15 the tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax

Pg 239 lines 14 thru 24 the government will reduce physicians services for medicade the seniors, the poor and the low income will suffer even more than they do now

Pg 241 lines 6 thru 8 all doctors no matter what specialty will be paid the same

Pg 253 lines 10 thru 18 the government will set the value of doctors time and professional judgments literally the value of human life

Pg 268 sec 1141 the federal government regulates rental and purchase of power driven wheelchairs

Pg 272 sec 1145 regarding the treatments of certain cancer hospitals cancer patients welcome to rationing

Pg 280 sec 1151 the government will penalize hospitals for what the government deems preventable readmission

Pg 317 lines 13 thru 20 prohibition on ownership and investment the government tells doctors what and how much they can own

Pg 341 lines 3 – 9 government has the authority to disqualify HMO’s forcing all into the government health plan

Pg 354 sec 1177 government will restrict enrollment of special needs individuals

Seniors will be interviewed every year as to what care they can and cannot receive and they will be counciled on final death preparations etc.

Government will also instruct on living wills and durable powers of attorney this is mandatory

Government provides approved lists of end of life resources guiding you into death. Government mandates programs for orders for end of life

America if you are now so dumbed down that you can consider for one moment that this power grab is in your best interest all I can say is , go back to sleep and leave the fight to those of us who still possess some semblance of intellect and common sense.


Can we have a link to where you found this? It seems to be a poor attempt at raising the level of hysteria regarding the bill and I'd like to check it out.

no photo
Tue 07/17/12 01:51 PM


...to shred the constitution and the Bill of Rights.


Well now we know. For those of us out here who might actually care to read the HealthCare bill, the same one our Supreme Court is now wasting time on considering the constitutionality of its federal mandate when instead they should be ruling on the hidden provisions within which shred the Constitution and Bill of Rights, we find the true purpose listed by item in more than 2 thousand pages of treason.

It’s no wonder Nancy Pelosi said pass it first and find out later when you get down to the nitty gritty of what is hidden within the following pages:

PG 22 MANDATES the gov will audit all books of all employers who self insure

Pg 29 lines 4 thru 16 Healthcare rationing you can only receive so much care per year regardless of your needs 5000$per individual 10000$per family

Pg 30 sec 123 there will be a gov committee that decides what benefits and treatments you will receive

Pg 42 the healthcare commissioner will choose your healthcare benefits for you. You have no choice

Pg 52 healthcare will be provided to all non us citizens illegal or otherwise

Pg 58 the government will have real time access to your finances and a national ID card will be issued.

Pg 59 lines 21 thru 24 the government will have direct access to your bank accounts for elective funds transfers

Pg 65 sec 164 this is a pay off subsidized plan for retirees and their families in unions and community organizations such as ACORN

PG 72 LINES 8 thru 14 here the government is creating a health care exchange to bring private health care plans under government control

Pg 84 sec 203 the government mandates all benefit packages for private health care plans in the exchange.

Pg 85 line 7 AARP members your healthcare will be rationed

Pg 91 lines 4 thru 7 government mandates linguistic appropriate services for translation for illegal aliens

Pg 95 lines 8 thru 18 the government will use groups like ACORN and AMERICORE to sign up individually for government health care plan.

Pg 102 lines 12 thru 18 medicade eligible individuals will be automatically enrolled in medicade you have no choice

Pg 124 lines 24 thru 25 no company can sue the government on price fixing and there will be no judicial review against the government monopoly

Pg 126 lines 22 thru 25 employers must pay for health care for part time employees and their families

Pg 127 lines 1 thru 16 doctors and the American medical association; the government will tell you how much money you can make

Pg 145 lines 15 thru 17 all employers must enroll employees into the government plan you have no choice Pg 149 lines 16 thru 24 an employer with a payroll of 400k dollars and up who does not provide the government option will pay an 8 percent tax on all payroll

Pg 150 line 9 thru 13 any employer with a payroll between 251k thru 400 who does not provide the government option will pay a 2 to 6 percent tax on all payroll

Pg 167 any individual who does not have acceptable health care coverage according to the government will be taxed 2.5 percent

Pg 170 lines 1 thru 3 any non resident alien is exempt from individual taxes you and I will pay for them

Pg 195 officers and employees of the health care administration will have access to all Americans financial and personal records

Pg 203 lines 14 thru 15 the tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax

Pg 239 lines 14 thru 24 the government will reduce physicians services for medicade the seniors, the poor and the low income will suffer even more than they do now

Pg 241 lines 6 thru 8 all doctors no matter what specialty will be paid the same

Pg 253 lines 10 thru 18 the government will set the value of doctors time and professional judgments literally the value of human life

Pg 268 sec 1141 the federal government regulates rental and purchase of power driven wheelchairs

Pg 272 sec 1145 regarding the treatments of certain cancer hospitals cancer patients welcome to rationing

Pg 280 sec 1151 the government will penalize hospitals for what the government deems preventable readmission

Pg 317 lines 13 thru 20 prohibition on ownership and investment the government tells doctors what and how much they can own

Pg 341 lines 3 – 9 government has the authority to disqualify HMO’s forcing all into the government health plan

Pg 354 sec 1177 government will restrict enrollment of special needs individuals

Seniors will be interviewed every year as to what care they can and cannot receive and they will be counciled on final death preparations etc.

Government will also instruct on living wills and durable powers of attorney this is mandatory

Government provides approved lists of end of life resources guiding you into death. Government mandates programs for orders for end of life

America if you are now so dumbed down that you can consider for one moment that this power grab is in your best interest all I can say is , go back to sleep and leave the fight to those of us who still possess some semblance of intellect and common sense.


Can we have a link to where you found this? It seems to be a poor attempt at raising the level of hysteria regarding the bill and I'd like to check it out.



You are probably right.

I have no way to verify this stuff.

If you have any credible information about the Health club bill please post it.

With further investigation, this source is not reliable. Probably some nut case.

no photo
Tue 07/17/12 01:58 PM
I don't remember where I got it. I did a search and came up with this website.

http://yes-23.com/rep/house-healthcare-bill-breakdown-letter-from-dr-stephen-e-fraser-md/

I don't know how a person can verify this information short of reading the health care bill itself. Is that possible for the common citizen or are they keeping it a secret until after it is passed?


Troubled's photo
Tue 07/17/12 11:27 PM

I don't remember where I got it. I did a search and came up with this website.

http://yes-23.com/rep/house-healthcare-bill-breakdown-letter-from-dr-stephen-e-fraser-md/

I don't know how a person can verify this information short of reading the health care bill itself. Is that possible for the common citizen or are they keeping it a secret until after it is passed?





Google H.R.3590.AS Everything you don't want to know is right there

ujGearhead's photo
Wed 07/18/12 12:39 AM

This Health Care Bill is just their means to our end. Ya also may want to buy guns an ammo now..as there is a push for the gov't to buy out large ammo companies. Hmmm, guess the guns dont work if ya cant buy bullets.




Might want to think a little beyond that. Sure, guns don't work so well without bullets, but what use are bullets without guns. Our government is slowly taking away our right to bear arms without most people even realizing it.

no photo
Wed 07/18/12 05:59 AM


This Health Care Bill is just their means to our end. Ya also may want to buy guns an ammo now..as there is a push for the gov't to buy out large ammo companies. Hmmm, guess the guns dont work if ya cant buy bullets.




Might want to think a little beyond that. Sure, guns don't work so well without bullets, but what use are bullets without guns. Our government is slowly taking away our right to bear arms without most people even realizing it.


Most smart gun owners don't register their guns.
I know of gun owners who have plenty.

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