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Fri 07/20/12 12:52 PM
Republicans Filibuster Bill Ending Tax Breaks For Shipping Jobs Out Of Country!

enate Republicans today FILIBUSTERED to block a bill ending the tax breaks companies get when they send our jobs out of the country -- and giving a few breaks to companies that hire here. The question now: will this get reported to the public? Will they be told this was a Republican filibuster, or just that "The Senate" "blocked" the bill? And will we ever know which companies -- and countries -- paid Republicans to kill this bill.

The Bill

According to GovTrack.us, the Bring Jobs Home Act:

Amends the Internal Revenue Code to:

(1) grant business taxpayers a tax credit for up to 20% of insourcing expenses incurred for eliminating a business located outside the United States and relocating it within the United States, and

(2) deny a tax deduction for outsourcing expenses incurred in relocating a U.S. business outside the United States. Requires an increase in the taxpayer's employment of full-time employees in the United States in order to claim the tax credit for insourcing expenses.

Yes, you can see why Republicans would filibuster that.
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/dave-johnson/44432/republicans-filibuster-bill-ending-tax-breaks-for-shipping-jobs-out-of-country

Chazster's photo
Fri 07/20/12 12:56 PM
Almost as bad as Democratic Congress spending out of control.

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 07/20/12 12:59 PM
laugh :laughing: rofl

Bestinshow's photo
Fri 07/20/12 01:02 PM

Almost as bad as Democratic Congress spending out of control.
I know we spend way to much on the military what a terrible waste.

Chazster's photo
Fri 07/20/12 01:08 PM


Almost as bad as Democratic Congress spending out of control.
I know we spend way to much on the military what a terrible waste.

So if we spending so much on the military and dem's areagaibst that then Why has spending increased 5-10 times since they took control of the budget?

Bestinshow's photo
Fri 07/20/12 01:14 PM



Almost as bad as Democratic Congress spending out of control.
I know we spend way to much on the military what a terrible waste.

So if we spending so much on the military and dem's areagaibst that then Why has spending increased 5-10 times since they took control of the budget?
Please provide a link to your information.

Still cant believe the republicans would filibuster a bill that cuts the tax break to companies that outsource jobs its totally insane.

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Fri 07/20/12 01:22 PM
OMG! rofl

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Fri 07/20/12 01:31 PM
Edited by Chazster on Fri 07/20/12 01:32 PM




Almost as bad as Democratic Congress spending out of control.
I know we spend way to much on the military what a terrible waste.

So if we spending so much on the military and dem's areagaibst that then Why has spending increased 5-10 times since they took control of the budget?
Please provide a link to your information.

Still cant believe the republicans would filibuster a bill that cuts the tax break to companies that outsource jobs its totally insane.

Who controls the budget? It's the Senate. The budget is submitted the year before so 2013s budget would be submitted (if it was even done) in 2012 for example.

http://www.davemanuel.com/history-of-deficits-and-surpluses-in-the-united-states.php
here is a link with deficits by year. Dems took over the Senate in January 07 thus they for control of the budget from 08 until now. Numbers don't lie.

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Fri 07/20/12 01:35 PM

Republicans Filibuster Bill Ending Tax Breaks For Shipping Jobs Out Of Country!

enate Republicans today FILIBUSTERED to block a bill ending the tax breaks companies get when they send our jobs out of the country -- and giving a few breaks to companies that hire here. The question now: will this get reported to the public? Will they be told this was a Republican filibuster, or just that "The Senate" "blocked" the bill? And will we ever know which companies -- and countries -- paid Republicans to kill this bill.

The Bill

According to GovTrack.us, the Bring Jobs Home Act:

Amends the Internal Revenue Code to:

(1) grant business taxpayers a tax credit for up to 20% of insourcing expenses incurred for eliminating a business located outside the United States and relocating it within the United States, and

(2) deny a tax deduction for outsourcing expenses incurred in relocating a U.S. business outside the United States. Requires an increase in the taxpayer's employment of full-time employees in the United States in order to claim the tax credit for insourcing expenses.

Yes, you can see why Republicans would filibuster that.
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/dave-johnson/44432/republicans-filibuster-bill-ending-tax-breaks-for-shipping-jobs-out-of-country



how does that make them 'anti american' best?

america is diverse, and businessowners are americans too,, they may be supporting a segment of 'americans' that doesnt seem to support other segments

but that doesnt mean they are, by extension. anti americans


americans stand for all types of different things, and they each have candidates who either support or oppose those things they stand for,,

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Fri 07/20/12 01:37 PM





Almost as bad as Democratic Congress spending out of control.
I know we spend way to much on the military what a terrible waste.

So if we spending so much on the military and dem's areagaibst that then Why has spending increased 5-10 times since they took control of the budget?
Please provide a link to your information.

Still cant believe the republicans would filibuster a bill that cuts the tax break to companies that outsource jobs its totally insane.

Who controls the budget? It's the Senate. The budget is submitted the year before so 2013s budget would be submitted (if it was even done) in 2012 for example.

http://www.davemanuel.com/history-of-deficits-and-surpluses-in-the-united-states.php
here is a link with deficits by year. Dems took over the Senate in January 07 thus they for control of the budget from 08 until now. Numbers don't lie.



your link doesnt include a breakdown of 'military' spending,,,

Bestinshow's photo
Fri 07/20/12 01:38 PM





Almost as bad as Democratic Congress spending out of control.
I know we spend way to much on the military what a terrible waste.

So if we spending so much on the military and dem's areagaibst that then Why has spending increased 5-10 times since they took control of the budget?
Please provide a link to your information.

Still cant believe the republicans would filibuster a bill that cuts the tax break to companies that outsource jobs its totally insane.

Who controls the budget? It's the Senate. The budget is submitted the year before so 2013s budget would be submitted (if it was even done) in 2012 for example.

http://www.davemanuel.com/history-of-deficits-and-surpluses-in-the-united-states.php
here is a link with deficits by year. Dems took over the Senate in January 07 thus they for control of the budget from 08 until now. Numbers don't lie.
I did not see five to ten times a number that's for sure.

Anyhow if the republicans wanted to cute spending a win win would be to end tax breaks to companies that export american jobs.

It sure will make them look anti american worker on election day.

Its a democratic dream to have them do this as it exposes them for the frauds they are.

I will quote a person from another site who says it best.


"MONEY, MONEY, MONEY! T H A T is the mission of the republican party. All this talk about freedom, or the flag, or Jesus, or terra is just the flavor du jour, "

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/dave-johnson/44432/republicans-filibuster-bill-ending-tax-breaks-for-shipping-jobs-out-of-country

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Fri 07/20/12 01:39 PM
Social spending and social programs are also a HUGE financial bleed. Also it was the Dems who were super hot on Obama care (but it is coming to light that even some of the Dems are feeling guilty about dumping that tar baby in our laps, it wasn't exclusively Obama's fault.

Medicare, FRAUGHT WITH FRAUD! And worst Obamacare does not address the real heart of the issues making health care so freaking expensive. Likewise comparing the Heritage foundation's proposals and Switzerland is one of the greatest fallacies of the issue! There is no way anyone can compare America to Switzerland. Switzerland like New Zealand DO NOT TOLERATE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS! Yet here in America it seems the Democratic party TOLERATES and GIVES THEM MONEY AND FOOD AND SHELTER AND OTHER THINGS THEY WILL NOT EXTEND TO THE HOMELESS HERE IN AMERICA! So who is trying to kid whom here.

So if I may, if you are so smart what is your big plan for straightening out the mess America is in? I like and prefer Germany's model for health care and INSURANCE! But they had to enact Legal System reforms and Tort reforms too. OH BUT AGAIN GERMANY ALSO DOES NOT TOLERATE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION!

We have cut military spending to the bone and now you think more is better? How about funding the war Obama will not get us out of? How about all this crap about going into Syria and doing something about their civil war? WHERE IS THE MONEY FOR THIS SUPPOSED TO COME FROM? WHO IS BYTCHING THE MOST WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING IN SYRIA? HILLARY CLINTON, A DEMOCRAT! And a supposed presidential hopeful.

I really wish for once you could think outside the box! All you do is rant how evil the Republicans are. You claim to see a mote in my eye yet you seem to miss the log in yours? The Democratic party is not out for the best interest of America either. They just want votes and they will resort to the Tammany Hall trick of importing as many illegal immigrants as they can, make citizens of them suddenly, and say "We were good to you so vote for us!" which these new (COUGH COUGH) "Citizens" do. (Watch the movie Gangs of new York and pay attention to how Boss Tweed operates, it is OBAMA INCARNATE!)

I am voting Ron Paul out of disgust for both parties! Again Democrats are EQUALLY IF NOT MORE evil than Republicans! But at least the Republicans have some business sense. But again NEITHER SIDE HAS AMERICA'S BEST INTERESTS AT HEART!

God you remind me of a friend of mine who is so negative and trifling at times she makes Negative look positive suddenly! You have to focus your hate on a particular group so much so you cannot see the damage your "golden child" does abusing their power and station. You sir unfortunately are part of the problem America is suffering from with your attitude! Can you even admit that the Democratic party indeed shares blame for the mess America is in or is it "JUST THE REPUBLICANS?"

Can you even admit our social spending is way out of control? We are supposed to house feed and provide shelter and medical care for the world's poor while we ignore our own and destroy the workhorses who make America money? You are aware in the early history of America Mules were treated better than workers? You had to pay for (buy) and feed mules. Workers were everywhere. All you had to do was pay them (poorly).

I think America needs a dose of Austerity as well.

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Fri 07/20/12 01:51 PM






Almost as bad as Democratic Congress spending out of control.
I know we spend way to much on the military what a terrible waste.

So if we spending so much on the military and dem's areagaibst that then Why has spending increased 5-10 times since they took control of the budget?
Please provide a link to your information.

Still cant believe the republicans would filibuster a bill that cuts the tax break to companies that outsource jobs its totally insane.

Who controls the budget? It's the Senate. The budget is submitted the year before so 2013s budget would be submitted (if it was even done) in 2012 for example.

http://www.davemanuel.com/history-of-deficits-and-surpluses-in-the-united-states.php
here is a link with deficits by year. Dems took over the Senate in January 07 thus they for control of the budget from 08 until now. Numbers don't lie.
I did not see five to ten times a number that's for sure.

Anyhow if the republicans wanted to cute spending a win win would be to end tax breaks to companies that export american jobs.

It sure will make them look anti american worker on election day.

Its a democratic dream to have them do this as it exposes them for the frauds they are.

I will quote a person from another site who says it best.


"MONEY, MONEY, MONEY! T H A T is the mission of the republican party. All this talk about freedom, or the flag, or Jesus, or terra is just the flavor du jour, "

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/dave-johnson/44432/republicans-filibuster-bill-ending-tax-breaks-for-shipping-jobs-out-of-country


Check your math again. 2007 180 billion. 2009 1.5 trillion 8.3 times which is between 5-10

Chazster's photo
Fri 07/20/12 01:53 PM






Almost as bad as Democratic Congress spending out of control.
I know we spend way to much on the military what a terrible waste.

So if we spending so much on the military and dem's areagaibst that then Why has spending increased 5-10 times since they took control of the budget?
Please provide a link to your information.

Still cant believe the republicans would filibuster a bill that cuts the tax break to companies that outsource jobs its totally insane.

Who controls the budget? It's the Senate. The budget is submitted the year before so 2013s budget would be submitted (if it was even done) in 2012 for example.

http://www.davemanuel.com/history-of-deficits-and-surpluses-in-the-united-states.php
here is a link with deficits by year. Dems took over the Senate in January 07 thus they for control of the budget from 08 until now. Numbers don't lie.



your link doesnt include a breakdown of 'military' spending,,,


Doesn't have to. It's included in the deficit. I was conceding rebs spend more on military but not enough to offset what dems spend even when it is cut.

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Fri 07/20/12 01:59 PM







Almost as bad as Democratic Congress spending out of control.
I know we spend way to much on the military what a terrible waste.

So if we spending so much on the military and dem's areagaibst that then Why has spending increased 5-10 times since they took control of the budget?
Please provide a link to your information.

Still cant believe the republicans would filibuster a bill that cuts the tax break to companies that outsource jobs its totally insane.

Who controls the budget? It's the Senate. The budget is submitted the year before so 2013s budget would be submitted (if it was even done) in 2012 for example.

http://www.davemanuel.com/history-of-deficits-and-surpluses-in-the-united-states.php
here is a link with deficits by year. Dems took over the Senate in January 07 thus they for control of the budget from 08 until now. Numbers don't lie.
I did not see five to ten times a number that's for sure.

Anyhow if the republicans wanted to cute spending a win win would be to end tax breaks to companies that export american jobs.

It sure will make them look anti american worker on election day.

Its a democratic dream to have them do this as it exposes them for the frauds they are.

I will quote a person from another site who says it best.


"MONEY, MONEY, MONEY! T H A T is the mission of the republican party. All this talk about freedom, or the flag, or Jesus, or terra is just the flavor du jour, "

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/dave-johnson/44432/republicans-filibuster-bill-ending-tax-breaks-for-shipping-jobs-out-of-country


Check your math again. 2007 180 billion. 2009 1.5 trillion 8.3 times which is between 5-10



your original claim was about military spending,, have you a link to the increase in spending for that?

also surplus and deficit are not SPENDING,,they are the difference between what we take in that year and what we spend

an increase could be that we take in less or we spend more or a combination of both

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Fri 07/20/12 02:00 PM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 07/20/12 02:01 PM







Almost as bad as Democratic Congress spending out of control.
I know we spend way to much on the military what a terrible waste.

So if we spending so much on the military and dem's areagaibst that then Why has spending increased 5-10 times since they took control of the budget?
Please provide a link to your information.

Still cant believe the republicans would filibuster a bill that cuts the tax break to companies that outsource jobs its totally insane.

Who controls the budget? It's the Senate. The budget is submitted the year before so 2013s budget would be submitted (if it was even done) in 2012 for example.

http://www.davemanuel.com/history-of-deficits-and-surpluses-in-the-united-states.php


here is a link with deficits by year. Dems took over the Senate in January 07 thus they for control of the budget from 08 until now. Numbers don't lie.



your link doesnt include a breakdown of 'military' spending,,,


Doesn't have to. It's included in the deficit. I was conceding rebs spend more on military but not enough to offset what dems spend even when it is cut.




what? how does knowing the difference in what we have and what we spend let us know how much we spARend on MILITY?

Bestinshow's photo
Fri 07/20/12 02:00 PM







Almost as bad as Democratic Congress spending out of control.
I know we spend way to much on the military what a terrible waste.

So if we spending so much on the military and dem's areagaibst that then Why has spending increased 5-10 times since they took control of the budget?
Please provide a link to your information.

Still cant believe the republicans would filibuster a bill that cuts the tax break to companies that outsource jobs its totally insane.

Who controls the budget? It's the Senate. The budget is submitted the year before so 2013s budget would be submitted (if it was even done) in 2012 for example.

http://www.davemanuel.com/history-of-deficits-and-surpluses-in-the-united-states.php
here is a link with deficits by year. Dems took over the Senate in January 07 thus they for control of the budget from 08 until now. Numbers don't lie.
I did not see five to ten times a number that's for sure.

Anyhow if the republicans wanted to cute spending a win win would be to end tax breaks to companies that export american jobs.

It sure will make them look anti american worker on election day.

Its a democratic dream to have them do this as it exposes them for the frauds they are.

I will quote a person from another site who says it best.


"MONEY, MONEY, MONEY! T H A T is the mission of the republican party. All this talk about freedom, or the flag, or Jesus, or terra is just the flavor du jour, "

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/dave-johnson/44432/republicans-filibuster-bill-ending-tax-breaks-for-shipping-jobs-out-of-country


Check your math again. 2007 180 billion. 2009 1.5 trillion 8.3 times which is between 5-10
You do know that Bush had the wars on a seperate udget and Obama included them in his to reflect a true cost.

From yahoo answers.

Why did Bush place the cost for the war on Iraq "off budget"?
Why would congress allow Bush to place the expenditures for the cost of a war off budget??
And why would Obama put it back on?

The best answer?

Best Answer - Chosen by Asker
Because he was deceitful and duplicitous for his entire eight-year-long Regime. It's much easier getting away with murder if you don't actually admit you're committing murder. "Why did Congress allow him to get away with it?"

Really? Because it was a Republican Congress who rubberstamped every single piece of crappy legislation for his entire Regime. They did not question ANYTHING he did. Why do you think we're in the mess we're in???

He wasn't honest about ANYTHING he did.

Obama put it in the budget because the American people have a right to know how much money their government is spending.
http://ca.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100606144719AAq1ZmX

They don't call me Bestinshow for nothinglaugh :smile:

I am off to a local winery you can have the last word.

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Fri 07/20/12 02:04 PM







Almost as bad as Democratic Congress spending out of control.
I know we spend way to much on the military what a terrible waste.

So if we spending so much on the military and dem's areagaibst that then Why has spending increased 5-10 times since they took control of the budget?
Please provide a link to your information.

Still cant believe the republicans would filibuster a bill that cuts the tax break to companies that outsource jobs its totally insane.

Who controls the budget? It's the Senate. The budget is submitted the year before so 2013s budget would be submitted (if it was even done) in 2012 for example.

http://www.davemanuel.com/history-of-deficits-and-surpluses-in-the-united-states.php
here is a link with deficits by year. Dems took over the Senate in January 07 thus they for control of the budget from 08 until now. Numbers don't lie.



your link doesnt include a breakdown of 'military' spending,,,


Doesn't have to. It's included in the deficit. I was conceding rebs spend more on military but not enough to offset what dems spend even when it is cut.


And no mention to the cuts the Military has suffered previous to the cuts they went to four years ago and two years ago? All Dems do is scream "WAR IS BAD M'kay." But here we are with Hillary Clinton trolling around the world on America's dime saying "We need to stick our noses in yet another nations' internal affairs because we are the police force of the world. TEAM AMERICA!" I know people who work in Aerospace and private contractors are scrambling to survive right now under the present administration. Now tell me, what makes it so right for Hillary Clinton to want to get us into a war more so than former President Bush?

Damn it if Liberals don't want to have things go their way just because they want it that way. I mean you want our cake too? Or do you plan on giving that to some third world dictator for appeasement money! Whoops, excuse me, foreign aid? Bribes to make people who hate us like us?

But again Hillary Clinton is spearheading (more like Chicken heading) action in Syria. Come on, Drag us into another war? And then what? Pull money out of taxpayer's ***** again? Cut more Military spending?


Chazster- it seems the voice of reason will either be ignored or argued with. Some people cannot see past their own glasses of self belief. Our Social spending needs to be addressed more so than anything else! And our justice system needs reforms as well!

Like I said, I think America needs a dose of Austerity!

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Fri 07/20/12 02:09 PM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 07/20/12 02:10 PM








Almost as bad as Democratic Congress spending out of control.
I know we spend way to much on the military what a terrible waste.

So if we spending so much on the military and dem's areagaibst that then Why has spending increased 5-10 times since they took control of the budget?
Please provide a link to your information.

Still cant believe the republicans would filibuster a bill that cuts the tax break to companies that outsource jobs its totally insane.

Who controls the budget? It's the Senate. The budget is submitted the year before so 2013s budget would be submitted (if it was even done) in 2012 for example.

http://www.davemanuel.com/history-of-deficits-and-surpluses-in-the-united-states.php


here is a link with deficits by year. Dems took over the Senate in January 07 thus they for control of the budget from 08 until now. Numbers don't lie.



your link doesnt include a breakdown of 'military' spending,,,


Doesn't have to. It's included in the deficit. I was conceding rebs spend more on military but not enough to offset what dems spend even when it is cut.




what? how does knowing the difference in what we have and what we spend let us know how much we spARend on MILITY?




found a link to answer my own question

here

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/total_spending_2012USrn


spending on defense in 2008 was .7 trillion

in 2012 it is .9 trillion

a defense increase, but nothing near ten fold, or even ONE


welfare went from .5 to .7 trillion

Chazster's photo
Fri 07/20/12 02:14 PM








Almost as bad as Democratic Congress spending out of control.
I know we spend way to much on the military what a terrible waste.

So if we spending so much on the military and dem's areagaibst that then Why has spending increased 5-10 times since they took control of the budget?
Please provide a link to your information.

Still cant believe the republicans would filibuster a bill that cuts the tax break to companies that outsource jobs its totally insane.

Who controls the budget? It's the Senate. The budget is submitted the year before so 2013s budget would be submitted (if it was even done) in 2012 for example.

http://www.davemanuel.com/history-of-deficits-and-surpluses-in-the-united-states.php


here is a link with deficits by year. Dems took over the Senate in January 07 thus they for control of the budget from 08 until now. Numbers don't lie.



your link doesnt include a breakdown of 'military' spending,,,


Doesn't have to. It's included in the deficit. I was conceding rebs spend more on military but not enough to offset what dems spend even when it is cut.




what? how does knowing the difference in what we have and what we spend let us know how much we spARend on MILITY?


I was never interested in a spending number for military. If you are look it up yourself. I said If dems claim rebs spending a lot on military and that is their most outrageous spending, then how do dems who supposedly cut military spending outdoors them by so much. Please read.

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