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Topic: Will There Be a New Communist America?
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Tue 12/04/12 03:57 PM
Gallup and Obama’s Ushering in of the New U.S.S.A.



By Bob Dutko
December 3, 2012



A new Gallup poll and the official Communist Party USA are proving something liberals are unwilling to admit - that Obama and the Democrats really are ushering in a new Communist America.

The new Gallup poll from November 18-19 asked Americans if they approved or disapproved of "Socialism." A full 53% of Democrats had a favorable view of socialism. Among Republicans, the number was a staggering 23%, showing me that as the Democrats lead the way in transforming America into a Socialist nation, they are dragging many Republicans down with them.

Republicans are being infected by this ideology, no doubt, but make no mistake. This is being forged by today's Democratic Party of Barack Obama. In this same poll, when asked their views of various institutions, Democrats had a more favorable view of "federal government" than "capitalism" by a whopping 20 percentage points.

On my radio show, I have had countless liberals get furious when I use the word "socialism" in the same sentence as President Obama, but as this poll illustrates, it appears liberals are starting to warm up to the word.

Of course, this would be a great opportunity for all those liberals to apologize to us conservatives for the hammering we took when calling their policies "socialist." Maybe I'd better clear out my e-mail inbox to make room for all those "I'm sorry Bob, I guess you were right when you said we supported socialism after all" e-mails I'm, no doubt, going to receive, but I digress.

While it does appear liberals are finally accepting the truth of their socialist views, they are still unwilling to accept the word "Communism". Just as they were with the word "socialism," they are equally in denial regarding the "C" word.

The Communist Party USA recently issued a report on the 2012 presidential election with a glowing endorsement of Barack Obama and praise of his policies. These self-described Communists called Obama's win "an enormous people's victory" against "right-wing extremism." That's right. Communists are so far to the left that they actually consider someone like Mitt Romney a "right-wing extremist."

These self-described Communists went on to proclaim the core principles of the Communist Party USA, which were opposition to corporate "profiteering," "militarism" and "rolling back domestic spending."

They also declared as part of its core principles a support for "universal health care," celebrating "sexual orientation and gay marriage," expanding the power of Unions, fighting "global warming," increasing taxes on the "wealthy", "immigration reform" (aka amnesty), "reproductive rights for women" and the need for "tolerance and inclusiveness" while praising the work of "MoveOn, Planned Parenthood and the NAACP.”

Now come on, honestly. If I did not tell you I was reading from the official Communist Party USA, is there anyone with a pulse who would not have assumed this was Barack Obama and the Democratic Party?

After repeatedly trashing Republicans as racist and evil, the Communists said this about Barack Obama: "The President is the most popular politician in the country. Nobody has the political and moral authority that he has. He isn't a radical. Of the Democratic Party presidents of the 20th century, none had the deep democratic sensibilities that he possesses. It is crucial that he lead this struggle."

Let's face it. No one knows what Communism is more so than self-described, proud Communists themselves, and they see one of themselves in the White House. They also see their own plank adopted in the policies of the Democratic Party.

A few months ago, I challenged the liberals in my audience to go to the website of the Communist Party USA and print out their policy positions and platform and then do the same for the Democratic Party, superimpose them over one another, and then tell me if they are not about 95% identical. That challenge still stands today.

The problem is this. Communism doesn't present itself as an oppressive denial of individual liberties and freedoms. It presents itself as caring for the poor, loving, compassionate, tolerant and fighting for the "economic justice" of the little guy.

The truth, however, is revealed in history. Communist societies with a big, socialized and centralized government not only deny personal liberties, they leave the poor even poorer. In the old Soviet Union, how many people in the U.S.S.R were experiencing the benefits of "economic justice?”

Maybe that's why so many people are trying to get into Cuba. Oh, that's right. They're trying to get OUT of Cuba. If conservatives don't stand up and fight this liberal and socialist agenda of Obama and the Democrats, the Cubans may soon not be so thrilled about coming to the new U.S.S.A.





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Tue 12/04/12 04:28 PM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 12/04/12 04:32 PM
The problem is this. Communism doesn't present itself as an oppressive denial of individual liberties and freedoms. It presents itself as caring for the poor, loving, compassionate, tolerant and fighting for the "economic justice" of the little guy.


...interesting

the problem to me , is people put too much stock in the labels instead of the actions


people are too scared of the 'label' to use logic and reason,,,

when could caring for poor, or loving, or compassion ever be a problem, ?

when people refuse to believe it can and should co exist with liberties and freedoms and understanding that 'individual' liberty is fairly restricted by the number of 'individuals' who wish to have it and still live inside of anything even resembling a community (uh oh,, COMMUNIsm,,,,) or a society,,,(uh oh,, SOCIalism)


your freedom ends where my nose begins,, with three hundred million noses,, thats not easy to navigate and labels such as

'freedom' and 'liberty' or socialist/communist/capitalist etc,,,,


dont change that reality

TBRich's photo
Tue 12/04/12 04:43 PM
This is how they played dirty when Upton Sinclair ran for governor of California and it has not stopped the labeling and confusion between Socialism and Communism. In polls where just the goals and objectives and political parties are given, most Americans view Socialism as favourable

msharmony's photo
Tue 12/04/12 05:00 PM

This is how they played dirty when Upton Sinclair ran for governor of California and it has not stopped the labeling and confusion between Socialism and Communism. In polls where just the goals and objectives and political parties are given, most Americans view Socialism as favourable


I think we dont really get an in depth study of those two forms or their history

its kind of like how everything republican is seen as the same from the founding of the country, even though the party has gone through major transformations in its ideology and membership,,,,


we are taught early to picture hitler at the mention of either socialism and communism , instead of looking at the history and applications,,,



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Tue 12/04/12 05:01 PM

This is how they played dirty when Upton Sinclair ran for governor of California and it has not stopped the labeling and confusion between Socialism and Communism. In polls where just the goals and objectives and political parties are given, most Americans view Socialism as favourable


Purely for free hand outs!

msharmony's photo
Tue 12/04/12 05:02 PM
society is , by nature, a social entity

a community is, by nature, communal

socialism and communism are semantically in line with these concepts so its no wonder logical people dont automatically fear or detest them,,,



TBRich's photo
Tue 12/04/12 05:03 PM


This is how they played dirty when Upton Sinclair ran for governor of California and it has not stopped the labeling and confusion between Socialism and Communism. In polls where just the goals and objectives and political parties are given, most Americans view Socialism as favourable


Purely for free hand outs!


Almost the opposite, they agree that we should help each other if in need, not just give free handouts

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Tue 12/04/12 05:04 PM
Communism doesn't present itself as an oppressive denial of individual liberties and freedoms. It presents itself as caring for the poor, loving, compassionate, tolerant and fighting for the "economic justice" of the little guy.

tell that to the hundreds of millions of people that were oppressed and murdered under communist dictators..



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Tue 12/04/12 05:36 PM



This is how they played dirty when Upton Sinclair ran for governor of California and it has not stopped the labeling and confusion between Socialism and Communism. In polls where just the goals and objectives and political parties are given, most Americans view Socialism as favourable


Purely for free hand outs!


Almost the opposite, they agree that we should help each other if in need, not just give free handouts


And what examples have China and Russia set with Communism?

TBRich's photo
Tue 12/04/12 05:38 PM




This is how they played dirty when Upton Sinclair ran for governor of California and it has not stopped the labeling and confusion between Socialism and Communism. In polls where just the goals and objectives and political parties are given, most Americans view Socialism as favourable


Purely for free hand outs!


Almost the opposite, they agree that we should help each other if in need, not just give free handouts


And what examples have China and Russia set with Communism?


These countries are dictatorships, communism does require a dictatorship. Clearly it is difficult to find a benign dictator

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Tue 12/04/12 06:38 PM

The problem is this. Communism doesn't present itself as an oppressive denial of individual liberties and freedoms. It presents itself as caring for the poor, loving, compassionate, tolerant and fighting for the "economic justice" of the little guy.


...interesting

the problem to me , is people put too much stock in the labels instead of the actions


people are too scared of the 'label' to use logic and reason,,,

when could caring for poor, or loving, or compassion ever be a problem, ?

when people refuse to believe it can and should co exist with liberties and freedoms and understanding that 'individual' liberty is fairly restricted by the number of 'individuals' who wish to have it and still live inside of anything even resembling a community (uh oh,, COMMUNIsm,,,,) or a society,,,(uh oh,, SOCIalism)


your freedom ends where my nose begins,, with three hundred million noses,, thats not easy to navigate and labels such as

'freedom' and 'liberty' or socialist/communist/capitalist etc,,,,


dont change that reality
Tell that to the people that lived under communism in Russia for many years.

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Tue 12/04/12 08:02 PM
Q: Will There Be a New Communist America?

A: Not exactly. But it will be COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.


Dodo_David's photo
Tue 12/04/12 10:18 PM

Q: Will There Be a New Communist America?

A: Not exactly. But it will be COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.




As if we are supposed to believe tarot cards. whoa

msharmony's photo
Tue 12/04/12 11:17 PM


The problem is this. Communism doesn't present itself as an oppressive denial of individual liberties and freedoms. It presents itself as caring for the poor, loving, compassionate, tolerant and fighting for the "economic justice" of the little guy.


...interesting

the problem to me , is people put too much stock in the labels instead of the actions


people are too scared of the 'label' to use logic and reason,,,

when could caring for poor, or loving, or compassion ever be a problem, ?

when people refuse to believe it can and should co exist with liberties and freedoms and understanding that 'individual' liberty is fairly restricted by the number of 'individuals' who wish to have it and still live inside of anything even resembling a community (uh oh,, COMMUNIsm,,,,) or a society,,,(uh oh,, SOCIalism)


your freedom ends where my nose begins,, with three hundred million noses,, thats not easy to navigate and labels such as

'freedom' and 'liberty' or socialist/communist/capitalist etc,,,,


dont change that reality
Tell that to the people that lived under communism in Russia for many years.


this is not Russia

different histories, different cultures

different times



different 'communism'

Bravalady's photo
Tue 12/04/12 11:32 PM
Communism is a dying philosophy. Those who are afraid of it are living in the past.

Dictatorships, now, there'll never be an end to those.

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Wed 12/05/12 09:18 AM


Q: Will There Be a New Communist America?

A: Not exactly. But it will be COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.




As if we are supposed to believe tarot cards. whoa



You can believe what you want dodo.

TBRich's photo
Wed 12/05/12 09:52 AM

Communism is a dying philosophy. Those who are afraid of it are living in the past.

Dictatorships, now, there'll never be an end to those.


Marx is still the most read by most economists.

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Wed 12/05/12 10:26 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 12/05/12 10:28 AM
The new government will probably not be as kind as Communism. But if you want to know what it will be like, think BUSINESS.

It is all about business.

What will be needed is workers, (cheap labor) and consumers.

The Elite will need money to pay their personal henchmen/police/military who will protect them from the masses of poor people and slaves.






msharmony's photo
Wed 12/05/12 10:30 AM
profit and wealth are too significant a part of western culture to turn to the type of communism most fear where there is no personal ownership of anything

how would our rich stay rich if we let that happen?

but our system always has been and always will be changing in some small form or another and I Dont expect that to change

just hope it doesnt change to one with nothing but poverty and wealth


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Wed 12/05/12 10:35 AM

profit and wealth are too significant a part of western culture to turn to the type of communism most fear where there is no personal ownership of anything

how would our rich stay rich if we let that happen?

but our system always has been and always will be changing in some small form or another and I Dont expect that to change

just hope it doesnt change to one with nothing but poverty and wealth





The illusion that we own our land and our homes is just that, an illusion.

If we actually owned them, we would not have to pay taxes on them.


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