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You bring up one very valid point in there. That is that yes, the Constitution is a living document that can change, but that isn't what is trying to be done here. No one is proposing a new amendment to remove my right to keep and bear arms. The reason is very simple, it actually requires not only a passage by a 3/4 vote of Congress, but also by 3/4 of the voting populace. What is being debated now in the halls of Congress, is actually in violation of the "Congress shall pass no laws" section of the amendment. Now, I know you don't like the idea of an armed populace, but your previous argument that the citizenry is not intelligent enough or trained enough to own these weapons is a moot point. Legally, we should have the right to pass guns out at the local insane asylum if we so choose, but we've allowed for regulations to say that we shouldn't. We've also allowed for regulations that say we shouldn't have fully automatic weapons - one used to be able to get a Thompson sub-machine gun out of the Sears catalog, they used to be advertised as great ways to rid your farms of coyotes. While I think it would be cool to be able to have one of those, they were inaccurate enough that I understand why we don't, and really, I don't need a fully auto weapon to defend my home from foreign or domestic threats. I do think that is sufficient though. According to the crime statistics to which you like to refer, you are five times more likely to get killed with a baseball bat than with a gun. You are using only crime statistics to base your argument, so I think its fair to say that guns aren't the problem in violent crime. Want another statistic? Here's one 45% of all weapons purchased in the United States have never been fired. They sit in nice safes or closets and will remain there. The problem here is that you are wanting to take away the rights of law abiding citizens because of the actions of only a few people acting outside of the law. What you have forgotten is that the rights of a free society are not given, but a price must be paid for them, and that price is always paid in blood. Sometimes it comes while defending it from an aggressor, sometimes it comes while defending it from a tyrant, and other times it comes when defending it from ourselves. That is the cost of a free society, the more freedoms one has, the less security. And when you are willing to trade freedom for security, you will end up with neither. I for one am tired of trading my rights for a police state, and it is becoming one that even Stalin or Hitler would be jealous. You mistakenly believe that everyone has the right to "feel" safe. Well, no you don't, and you shouldn't. Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom. That means you should be on your guard and worried that one day they'll take it from you. I must admit, this is well stated and deserves recognition  I agree....Solid post.... |
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You bring up one very valid point in there. That is that yes, the Constitution is a living document that can change, but that isn't what is trying to be done here. No one is proposing a new amendment to remove my right to keep and bear arms. The reason is very simple, it actually requires not only a passage by a 3/4 vote of Congress, but also by 3/4 of the voting populace. What is being debated now in the halls of Congress, is actually in violation of the "Congress shall pass no laws" section of the amendment. Now, I know you don't like the idea of an armed populace, but your previous argument that the citizenry is not intelligent enough or trained enough to own these weapons is a moot point. Legally, we should have the right to pass guns out at the local insane asylum if we so choose, but we've allowed for regulations to say that we shouldn't. We've also allowed for regulations that say we shouldn't have fully automatic weapons - one used to be able to get a Thompson sub-machine gun out of the Sears catalog, they used to be advertised as great ways to rid your farms of coyotes. While I think it would be cool to be able to have one of those, they were inaccurate enough that I understand why we don't, and really, I don't need a fully auto weapon to defend my home from foreign or domestic threats. I do think that is sufficient though. According to the crime statistics to which you like to refer, you are five times more likely to get killed with a baseball bat than with a gun. You are using only crime statistics to base your argument, so I think its fair to say that guns aren't the problem in violent crime. Want another statistic? Here's one 45% of all weapons purchased in the United States have never been fired. They sit in nice safes or closets and will remain there. The problem here is that you are wanting to take away the rights of law abiding citizens because of the actions of only a few people acting outside of the law. What you have forgotten is that the rights of a free society are not given, but a price must be paid for them, and that price is always paid in blood. Sometimes it comes while defending it from an aggressor, sometimes it comes while defending it from a tyrant, and other times it comes when defending it from ourselves. That is the cost of a free society, the more freedoms one has, the less security. And when you are willing to trade freedom for security, you will end up with neither. I for one am tired of trading my rights for a police state, and it is becoming one that even Stalin or Hitler would be jealous. You mistakenly believe that everyone has the right to "feel" safe. Well, no you don't, and you shouldn't. Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom. That means you should be on your guard and worried that one day they'll take it from you. Move to the head of the class my friend....after your bows! Well stated indeed! |
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You bring up one very valid point in there. That is that yes, the Constitution is a living document that can change, but that isn't what is trying to be done here. No one is proposing a new amendment to remove my right to keep and bear arms. The reason is very simple, it actually requires not only a passage by a 3/4 vote of Congress, but also by 3/4 of the voting populace. What is being debated now in the halls of Congress, is actually in violation of the "Congress shall pass no laws" section of the amendment. Now, I know you don't like the idea of an armed populace, but your previous argument that the citizenry is not intelligent enough or trained enough to own these weapons is a moot point. Legally, we should have the right to pass guns out at the local insane asylum if we so choose, but we've allowed for regulations to say that we shouldn't. We've also allowed for regulations that say we shouldn't have fully automatic weapons - one used to be able to get a Thompson sub-machine gun out of the Sears catalog, they used to be advertised as great ways to rid your farms of coyotes. While I think it would be cool to be able to have one of those, they were inaccurate enough that I understand why we don't, and really, I don't need a fully auto weapon to defend my home from foreign or domestic threats. I do think that is sufficient though. According to the crime statistics to which you like to refer, you are five times more likely to get killed with a baseball bat than with a gun. You are using only crime statistics to base your argument, so I think its fair to say that guns aren't the problem in violent crime. Want another statistic? Here's one 45% of all weapons purchased in the United States have never been fired. They sit in nice safes or closets and will remain there. The problem here is that you are wanting to take away the rights of law abiding citizens because of the actions of only a few people acting outside of the law. What you have forgotten is that the rights of a free society are not given, but a price must be paid for them, and that price is always paid in blood. Sometimes it comes while defending it from an aggressor, sometimes it comes while defending it from a tyrant, and other times it comes when defending it from ourselves. That is the cost of a free society, the more freedoms one has, the less security. And when you are willing to trade freedom for security, you will end up with neither. I for one am tired of trading my rights for a police state, and it is becoming one that even Stalin or Hitler would be jealous. You mistakenly believe that everyone has the right to "feel" safe. Well, no you don't, and you shouldn't. Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom. That means you should be on your guard and worried that one day they'll take it from you. Move to the head of the class my friend....after your bows! Well stated indeed! Merry Christmas Soul man!!  ...Health, happiness and peace to you for the New Year and always...
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JOHNN111
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You mistakenly believe that everyone has the right to "feel" safe. Well, no you don't, and you shouldn't. Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom. That means you should be on your guard and worried that one day they'll take it from you. RO! I agree with most of your posts... this one needs a different angle. Everyone has a right to "Be" safe, not just "feel" safe... I say this because it is the last thing on my mind when venturing out and about, the thought of someone (out of the blue) threatening my family for our possessions or whatever is completely FOREIGN to me, but It's part of daily life South of the border... I get it, I've been there and I've been caught in the crossfire in Soho, NYC. Believe me, I would have traded all my worldly possessions for any weapon that evening. I was so close, I could have taken them all out myself with 4-5 shots and I most likely would have been considered one of the suspects and got shot myself. In the end, there are plenty of peaceful nations with true quality of life who don't feel the need to carry weapons when shopping at the grocery store. The US should aspire to become one. Your second amendment is flawed, it presents a scenario that could never be in today's world and it never took in consideration Meth, Bath salts and crack cocaine of epic proportions. Your right to defend yourselves has morphed into... " YoYo I'm more powerful than Granma with this gun, so I'll take her chit"  (criminality speaking) If I'm going to present a problem, I usually present a solution so here's "my way". You have the right to protect yourself at all times. By any means necessary. You have the right to own a weapon under lock and key at all times. ON YOUR PROPERTY! You DO NOT have the right to remove the weapon from your property for any reason. (25yrs to life No parole.... depending on the situation). "Urban common areas" should ALL be weapon free zones... You all need to look outside the box IMO. Happy Holidays And Merry Christmas everyone! |
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You mistakenly believe that everyone has the right to "feel" safe. Well, no you don't, and you shouldn't. Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom. That means you should be on your guard and worried that one day they'll take it from you. RO! I agree with most of your posts... this one needs a different angle. Everyone has a right to "Be" safe, not just "feel" safe... I say this because it is the last thing on my mind when venturing out and about, the thought of someone (out of the blue) threatening my family for our possessions or whatever is completely FOREIGN to me, but It's part of daily life South of the border... I get it, I've been there and I've been caught in the crossfire in Soho, NYC. Believe me, I would have traded all my worldly possessions for any weapon that evening. I was so close, I could have taken them all out myself with 4-5 shots and I most likely would have been considered one of the suspects and got shot myself. In the end, there are plenty of peaceful nations with true quality of life who don't feel the need to carry weapons when shopping at the grocery store. The US should aspire to become one. Your second amendment is flawed, it presents a scenario that could never be in today's world and it never took in consideration Meth, Bath salts and crack cocaine of epic proportions. Your right to defend yourselves has morphed into... " YoYo I'm more powerful than Granma with this gun, so I'll take her chit" (criminality speaking) If I'm going to present a problem, I usually present a solution so here's "my way". You have the right to protect yourself at all times. By any means necessary. You have the right to own a weapon under lock and key at all times. ON YOUR PROPERTY! You DO NOT have the right to remove the weapon from your property for any reason. (25yrs to life No parole.... depending on the situation). "Urban common areas" should ALL be weapon free zones... You all need to look outside the box IMO. Happy Holidays And Merry Christmas everyone! The flaw in your law is that criminals don't obey laws, and you would have to maintain an armed body searching police state to enforce them. Sandy Hook elementary was a gun free zone. Who was there enforcing it? No one. Rules and laws don't prevent crimes. |
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You mistakenly believe that everyone has the right to "feel" safe. Well, no you don't, and you shouldn't. Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom. That means you should be on your guard and worried that one day they'll take it from you. RO! I agree with most of your posts... this one needs a different angle. Everyone has a right to "Be" safe, not just "feel" safe... I say this because it is the last thing on my mind when venturing out and about, the thought of someone (out of the blue) threatening my family for our possessions or whatever is completely FOREIGN to me, but It's part of daily life South of the border... I get it, I've been there and I've been caught in the crossfire in Soho, NYC. Believe me, I would have traded all my worldly possessions for any weapon that evening. I was so close, I could have taken them all out myself with 4-5 shots and I most likely would have been considered one of the suspects and got shot myself. In the end, there are plenty of peaceful nations with true quality of life who don't feel the need to carry weapons when shopping at the grocery store. The US should aspire to become one. Your second amendment is flawed, it presents a scenario that could never be in today's world and it never took in consideration Meth, Bath salts and crack cocaine of epic proportions. Your right to defend yourselves has morphed into... " YoYo I'm more powerful than Granma with this gun, so I'll take her chit" (criminality speaking) If I'm going to present a problem, I usually present a solution so here's "my way". You have the right to protect yourself at all times. By any means necessary. You have the right to own a weapon under lock and key at all times. ON YOUR PROPERTY! You DO NOT have the right to remove the weapon from your property for any reason. (25yrs to life No parole.... depending on the situation). "Urban common areas" should ALL be weapon free zones... You all need to look outside the box IMO. Happy Holidays And Merry Christmas everyone! The flaw in your law is that criminals don't obey laws, and you would have to maintain an armed body searching police state to enforce them. Sandy Hook elementary was a gun free zone.  Here's to thinking "outside the box" Merry Xmiss JB....
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You bring up one very valid point in there. That is that yes, the Constitution is a living document that can change, but that isn't what is trying to be done here. No one is proposing a new amendment to remove my right to keep and bear arms. The reason is very simple, it actually requires not only a passage by a 3/4 vote of Congress, but also by 3/4 of the voting populace. What is being debated now in the halls of Congress, is actually in violation of the "Congress shall pass no laws" section of the amendment. Now, I know you don't like the idea of an armed populace, but your previous argument that the citizenry is not intelligent enough or trained enough to own these weapons is a moot point. Legally, we should have the right to pass guns out at the local insane asylum if we so choose, but we've allowed for regulations to say that we shouldn't. We've also allowed for regulations that say we shouldn't have fully automatic weapons - one used to be able to get a Thompson sub-machine gun out of the Sears catalog, they used to be advertised as great ways to rid your farms of coyotes. While I think it would be cool to be able to have one of those, they were inaccurate enough that I understand why we don't, and really, I don't need a fully auto weapon to defend my home from foreign or domestic threats. I do think that is sufficient though. According to the crime statistics to which you like to refer, you are five times more likely to get killed with a baseball bat than with a gun. You are using only crime statistics to base your argument, so I think its fair to say that guns aren't the problem in violent crime. Want another statistic? Here's one 45% of all weapons purchased in the United States have never been fired. They sit in nice safes or closets and will remain there. The problem here is that you are wanting to take away the rights of law abiding citizens because of the actions of only a few people acting outside of the law. What you have forgotten is that the rights of a free society are not given, but a price must be paid for them, and that price is always paid in blood. Sometimes it comes while defending it from an aggressor, sometimes it comes while defending it from a tyrant, and other times it comes when defending it from ourselves. That is the cost of a free society, the more freedoms one has, the less security. And when you are willing to trade freedom for security, you will end up with neither. I for one am tired of trading my rights for a police state, and it is becoming one that even Stalin or Hitler would be jealous. You mistakenly believe that everyone has the right to "feel" safe. Well, no you don't, and you shouldn't. Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom. That means you should be on your guard and worried that one day they'll take it from you. Move to the head of the class my friend....after your bows! Well stated indeed! Merry Christmas Soul man!! ...Health, happiness and peace to you for the New Year and always... Merry Christmas and a safe, healthy and happy holidays to you too Leigh! 
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You mistakenly believe that everyone has the right to "feel" safe. Well, no you don't, and you shouldn't. Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom. That means you should be on your guard and worried that one day they'll take it from you. RO! I agree with most of your posts... this one needs a different angle. Everyone has a right to "Be" safe, not just "feel" safe... I say this because it is the last thing on my mind when venturing out and about, the thought of someone (out of the blue) threatening my family for our possessions or whatever is completely FOREIGN to me, but It's part of daily life South of the border... I get it, I've been there and I've been caught in the crossfire in Soho, NYC. Believe me, I would have traded all my worldly possessions for any weapon that evening. I was so close, I could have taken them all out myself with 4-5 shots and I most likely would have been considered one of the suspects and got shot myself. In the end, there are plenty of peaceful nations with true quality of life who don't feel the need to carry weapons when shopping at the grocery store. The US should aspire to become one. Your second amendment is flawed, it presents a scenario that could never be in today's world and it never took in consideration Meth, Bath salts and crack cocaine of epic proportions. Your right to defend yourselves has morphed into... " YoYo I'm more powerful than Granma with this gun, so I'll take her chit" (criminality speaking) If I'm going to present a problem, I usually present a solution so here's "my way". You have the right to protect yourself at all times. By any means necessary. You have the right to own a weapon under lock and key at all times. ON YOUR PROPERTY! You DO NOT have the right to remove the weapon from your property for any reason. (25yrs to life No parole.... depending on the situation). "Urban common areas" should ALL be weapon free zones... You all need to look outside the box IMO. Happy Holidays And Merry Christmas everyone! Your opinion is wrong in assuming everyone has the right to "be" safe. "Being" is a state. It is only brought about by action. So to be safe, one has to act. If you can't act to make yourself safe, or don't have the tools to do so, the wizard of safety isn't going to make it happen! Tell 6 million Jews they did the right thing surrendering their guns in the name of safety! Merry Christmas to you too. |
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Tell 6 million Jews they did the right thing surrendering their guns in the name of safety! Is that the reason they were given for surrendering their guns? What about the Brits? They surrendered even all of their hand guns.  Why would anyone do that? |
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Yes guns are 'dangerous." Any idiot knows that.
But when good law abiding people hand in their guns, do you really think criminals will do the same? If they ever pass a law here that people must turn over their guns (and I know that is not what they are trying to do... yet) then it is better that we all become law breakers and keep our guns. |
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An unarmed populace is a defenseless one! Why else would killer criminals have a free reign to kill so many in gunless zones while the victims helplessly wait for guns to arrive and save them?
Why do people think they choose such venues for their crimes in the first place? Maximum results, minimal effort, defenseless prey and a death wish wanting fame/attention and company. Misery loves company! |
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You mistakenly believe that everyone has the right to "feel" safe. Well, no you don't, and you shouldn't. Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom. That means you should be on your guard and worried that one day they'll take it from you. RO! I agree with most of your posts... this one needs a different angle. Everyone has a right to "Be" safe, not just "feel" safe... I say this because it is the last thing on my mind when venturing out and about, the thought of someone (out of the blue) threatening my family for our possessions or whatever is completely FOREIGN to me, but It's part of daily life South of the border... I get it, I've been there and I've been caught in the crossfire in Soho, NYC. Believe me, I would have traded all my worldly possessions for any weapon that evening. I was so close, I could have taken them all out myself with 4-5 shots and I most likely would have been considered one of the suspects and got shot myself. In the end, there are plenty of peaceful nations with true quality of life who don't feel the need to carry weapons when shopping at the grocery store. The US should aspire to become one. Your second amendment is flawed, it presents a scenario that could never be in today's world and it never took in consideration Meth, Bath salts and crack cocaine of epic proportions. Your right to defend yourselves has morphed into... " YoYo I'm more powerful than Granma with this gun, so I'll take her chit" (criminality speaking) If I'm going to present a problem, I usually present a solution so here's "my way". You have the right to protect yourself at all times. By any means necessary. You have the right to own a weapon under lock and key at all times. ON YOUR PROPERTY! You DO NOT have the right to remove the weapon from your property for any reason. (25yrs to life No parole.... depending on the situation). "Urban common areas" should ALL be weapon free zones... You all need to look outside the box IMO. Happy Holidays And Merry Christmas everyone! The flaw in your law is that criminals don't obey laws, and you would have to maintain an armed body searching police state to enforce them. Sandy Hook elementary was a gun free zone. Who was there enforcing it? No one. Rules and laws don't prevent crimes. The difference is our criminals don't target 6yr old children... Nor do yours. SH Elementary was the work of a mentally unstable individual NOT a career criminal. The over abundance of weapons is a common factor in these kinds of tragedies... Thugs can get em but so can innocent children going through dads stuff? I know it's an uphill battle for me to try and make you understand because you were brought up with that mentality... The reasoning should be, If you continue to do the same things over and over... Why should you expect different results? You're weapons are sometimes falling into the wrong hands, what you gonna do about it Jeannie? |
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You mistakenly believe that everyone has the right to "feel" safe. Well, no you don't, and you shouldn't. Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom. That means you should be on your guard and worried that one day they'll take it from you. RO! I agree with most of your posts... this one needs a different angle. Everyone has a right to "Be" safe, not just "feel" safe... I say this because it is the last thing on my mind when venturing out and about, the thought of someone (out of the blue) threatening my family for our possessions or whatever is completely FOREIGN to me, but It's part of daily life South of the border... I get it, I've been there and I've been caught in the crossfire in Soho, NYC. Believe me, I would have traded all my worldly possessions for any weapon that evening. I was so close, I could have taken them all out myself with 4-5 shots and I most likely would have been considered one of the suspects and got shot myself. In the end, there are plenty of peaceful nations with true quality of life who don't feel the need to carry weapons when shopping at the grocery store. The US should aspire to become one. Your second amendment is flawed, it presents a scenario that could never be in today's world and it never took in consideration Meth, Bath salts and crack cocaine of epic proportions. Your right to defend yourselves has morphed into... " YoYo I'm more powerful than Granma with this gun, so I'll take her chit" (criminality speaking) If I'm going to present a problem, I usually present a solution so here's "my way". You have the right to protect yourself at all times. By any means necessary. You have the right to own a weapon under lock and key at all times. ON YOUR PROPERTY! You DO NOT have the right to remove the weapon from your property for any reason. (25yrs to life No parole.... depending on the situation). "Urban common areas" should ALL be weapon free zones... You all need to look outside the box IMO. Happy Holidays And Merry Christmas everyone! The flaw in your law is that criminals don't obey laws, and you would have to maintain an armed body searching police state to enforce them. Sandy Hook elementary was a gun free zone. Who was there enforcing it? No one. Rules and laws don't prevent crimes. The difference is our criminals don't target 6yr old children... Nor do yours. SH Elementary was the work of a mentally unstable individual NOT a career criminal. The over abundance of weapons is a common factor in these kinds of tragedies... Thugs can get em but so can innocent children going through dads stuff? I know it's an uphill battle for me to try and make you understand because you were brought up with that mentality... The reasoning should be, If you continue to do the same things over and over... Why should you expect different results? You're weapons are sometimes falling into the wrong hands, what you gonna do about it Jeannie? Your right! If you teach or promote gun fear instead of gun safety you get victims, not safety! They will never quit making guns, the desire for them or the profit from them. Only a fool doesn't adapt by educating their young in the proper use and safety of them! Ignorance and lack of education causes accidents! Banning a gun only makes it more desirable to the criminal element who then makes it a profitable commodity. Like the war on drugs! There will always be a gun available to any who desire it, even a child! |
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You mistakenly believe that everyone has the right to "feel" safe. Well, no you don't, and you shouldn't. Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom. That means you should be on your guard and worried that one day they'll take it from you. RO! I agree with most of your posts... this one needs a different angle. Everyone has a right to "Be" safe, not just "feel" safe... I say this because it is the last thing on my mind when venturing out and about, the thought of someone (out of the blue) threatening my family for our possessions or whatever is completely FOREIGN to me, but It's part of daily life South of the border... I get it, I've been there and I've been caught in the crossfire in Soho, NYC. Believe me, I would have traded all my worldly possessions for any weapon that evening. I was so close, I could have taken them all out myself with 4-5 shots and I most likely would have been considered one of the suspects and got shot myself. In the end, there are plenty of peaceful nations with true quality of life who don't feel the need to carry weapons when shopping at the grocery store. The US should aspire to become one. Your second amendment is flawed, it presents a scenario that could never be in today's world and it never took in consideration Meth, Bath salts and crack cocaine of epic proportions. Your right to defend yourselves has morphed into... " YoYo I'm more powerful than Granma with this gun, so I'll take her chit" (criminality speaking) If I'm going to present a problem, I usually present a solution so here's "my way". You have the right to protect yourself at all times. By any means necessary. You have the right to own a weapon under lock and key at all times. ON YOUR PROPERTY! You DO NOT have the right to remove the weapon from your property for any reason. (25yrs to life No parole.... depending on the situation). "Urban common areas" should ALL be weapon free zones... You all need to look outside the box IMO. Happy Holidays And Merry Christmas everyone! Your opinion is wrong in assuming everyone has the right to "be" safe. "Being" is a state. It is only brought about by action. So to be safe, one has to act. If you can't act to make yourself safe, or don't have the tools to do so, the wizard of safety isn't going to make it happen! Tell 6 million Jews they did the right thing surrendering their guns in the name of safety! Merry Christmas to you too. SoulMan! My level of safety IS different than yours... My perception of safety is different than yours... My belief that I am safe is different than yours... I dare you to tell me my right to be safe is wrong... how bout your need for weapon safety is putting me, "US" in harms way. So what you gonna do about it Soulman? |
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You mistakenly believe that everyone has the right to "feel" safe. Well, no you don't, and you shouldn't. Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom. That means you should be on your guard and worried that one day they'll take it from you. RO! I agree with most of your posts... this one needs a different angle. Everyone has a right to "Be" safe, not just "feel" safe... I say this because it is the last thing on my mind when venturing out and about, the thought of someone (out of the blue) threatening my family for our possessions or whatever is completely FOREIGN to me, but It's part of daily life South of the border... I get it, I've been there and I've been caught in the crossfire in Soho, NYC. Believe me, I would have traded all my worldly possessions for any weapon that evening. I was so close, I could have taken them all out myself with 4-5 shots and I most likely would have been considered one of the suspects and got shot myself. In the end, there are plenty of peaceful nations with true quality of life who don't feel the need to carry weapons when shopping at the grocery store. The US should aspire to become one. Your second amendment is flawed, it presents a scenario that could never be in today's world and it never took in consideration Meth, Bath salts and crack cocaine of epic proportions. Your right to defend yourselves has morphed into... " YoYo I'm more powerful than Granma with this gun, so I'll take her chit" (criminality speaking) If I'm going to present a problem, I usually present a solution so here's "my way". You have the right to protect yourself at all times. By any means necessary. You have the right to own a weapon under lock and key at all times. ON YOUR PROPERTY! You DO NOT have the right to remove the weapon from your property for any reason. (25yrs to life No parole.... depending on the situation). "Urban common areas" should ALL be weapon free zones... You all need to look outside the box IMO. Happy Holidays And Merry Christmas everyone! Your opinion is wrong in assuming everyone has the right to "be" safe. "Being" is a state. It is only brought about by action. So to be safe, one has to act. If you can't act to make yourself safe, or don't have the tools to do so, the wizard of safety isn't going to make it happen! Tell 6 million Jews they did the right thing surrendering their guns in the name of safety! Merry Christmas to you too. SoulMan! My level of safety IS different than yours... My perception of safety is different than yours... My belief that I am safe is different than yours... I dare you to tell me my right to be safe is wrong... how bout your need for weapon safety is putting me, "US" in harms way. So what you gonna do about it Soulman? Wish I could be there with my gun when your praying, helpless a$$ might need it! Just like the teachers and staff at Sandy Hook were while waiting for the police with guns to arrive and children and friends were being slaughtered! I hope your wizard of safety is there to get between you and a bullet, knife, baseball bat, group of thugs or terrorist should you ever need it. |
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Wish I could be there with my gun when your praying, helpless a$$ might need it!  Too funny! America! The most dangerous freedom in the world... Soul will save my hide from a punk who's gonna steal my watch 
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Sojourning_Soul
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Wish I could be there with my gun when your praying, helpless a$$ might need it! Too funny! America! The most dangerous freedom in the world... Soul will save my hide from a punk who's gonna steal my watch America... the freest country on earth! And good luck to the thug who even wants mine! Freedom is not given, it is earned! Hard to achieve, even harder to keep! BTW.... I may not save you from a beating, but I might prevent you loss of life from it. Screw the watch! That's the polices job....investigating crime. |
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do bullets from this gun
 somehow keep people 'safer' than bullets from this one,,  the TOP weapon scares me to death, I dont think even a hunter or target shooter would use or need it, cant figure any civilian reason for it either,,,, the bottom weapon, fires bullets just as deadly, but at far fewer rounds per second,,,,, |
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I don't know you Sir Soul...
Unless you're Captn Crunch or something, I'll just assume you'll be too busy saving your own arse mon! Cool?
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do bullets from this gun somehow keep people 'safer' than bullets from this one,, the TOP weapon scares me to death, I dont think even a hunter or target shooter would use or need it, cant figure any civilian reason for it either,,,, the bottom weapon, fires bullets just as deadly, but at far fewer rounds per second,,,,, How soon we forget... The cops had to emergency shop at the gun store! FREEDOM!!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oqfrr26yTSY |
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