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Topic: One gun owners opinion,,,
mightymoe's photo
Tue 12/25/12 12:19 PM







do bullets from this gun




somehow keep people 'safer' than bullets from this one,,






the TOP weapon scares me to death, I dont think even a hunter or target shooter would use or need it, cant figure any civilian reason for it either,,,,

the bottom weapon, fires bullets just as deadly, but at far fewer rounds per second,,,,,


You're the one who likes to talk apples and oranges but you don't know the difference between a long range and a short range weapon. One is accurate with less brutal wounds and not so concealable, keep aggressors at a distance. The other leaves a big hole at short distance and stops what gets thru the door.... not so accurate, and the offender has to be closer raising the risk of failure.

That's gun ignorance for an example

Send a sniper with a pistol to a hostage situation..... right! slaphead



arent snipers trained with their weapon though?

some common sense doesnt require special education to figure out,,,,

would a civilian have run out the building and far enough away to use the 'sniper' weapon before all those children died? doubtful

yeah, in cases like this, where people imply that others IN THE SAME area as the victims could use a weapon

the short range seems just fine to me,,,,


Again, apples and oranges. The police inside the building were carrying small arms to search, but the snipers outside had rifles.

That is one of the questions of the shooting. The coroner said the children were all killed with .223 rifle rounds, but the early news and police reports said they found his rifle in the trunk of the car he was supposed to have driven to the scene. It was also reported that when killed, he had only 2 weapons on him....both handguns! It was also reported that the shell casings recovered at the scene were from the Bushmaster .223 that he was NOT armed with.



good grief,, THE SNIPERS, are not everyday citizens,,,they are TRAINED WITH THEIR WEAPON for a specific purpose

what need would an untrained citizen have for access to the same weapon professional snipers use?

if the question is whether someone that had been armed at the time taken out the shooter, I imagie that someone would be amongst the people in the school when it happened,, which would certainly not be someone needing to use a LONG RANGE Weapon,,,,


I think its sad that people wish to have these guns around children at all, even behind a mask of wanting to protect them

but it makes much more sense to me , if thats the case, that they dont have SNIPER type weapons to do so,,,,but rather the weapons that are more for close proximity shooting,,,


Again! "They are trained with their weapons."... so that makes it ok to you. So why would you wish people to fear an object, keep proper education in using and respecting it out of the public conversation, knowing they are NOT going away!

That's like saying let's just lock up everyone we think might be crazy because we don't want to expose our children to them! It's a violation of the same rights to a persons freedoms granted in our constitution.

You advocate drug and sex education but not guns... that is hypocracy!


first

it makes it ok if people are well trained in the harm and use of weapons for them to have them,, YES,, one reason why Switzerland works well

TRAINING along with a check of mental capacity BEFORE weapons are issued and then a reasonable limit to the types of weapons and ammo available

YES,, thats what I support, such training and crime/mental history check should be MANDATORY Before owning ANY gun,,,,




second , yes we should FEAR certain objects in the wrong hands, such as bombs, poison, grenades, ,, to name but a few

if you wouldnt put them in a babies hands they shouldnt be in an UNTRAINED persons hands or the hands of a mentally ill/criminal person


Third, I advocate optional education (not requisite) about the harms of drugs, or guns, and about the potential consequences of sex

I advocate requisite education about where babies come from, being we were all once babies, I feel thats a relevant lesson to learn,,,,


are saying they would have killed less people if they had gun training? as far as being crazy, the adam guy couldn't by a gun, but he got them anyway... your plan seems a bit flawed

navygirl's photo
Tue 12/25/12 01:19 PM
Nice Thread MsHarmony. Most sensible one I have seen in days. :thumbsup:

no photo
Fri 12/28/12 10:47 AM
We need to refine those limits in the wake of what happened in Newtown.
Why is this necessarily true?

If we cannot show that previous refinements have had a positive impact, why would we believe future refinements which are almost exactly like the previous ones will have any different effect?

Doing something just to do something is not the same as doing something effective.

willowdraga's photo
Fri 12/28/12 10:54 AM

I believe there's a word for people who think they need pseudo assault
rifles, and multiple large capacity magazines, to "protect
their families".


Agreed. Which it is more likely to do is kill one of the members of the family. By accident or mental unwellness.

no photo
Fri 12/28/12 12:30 PM


I believe there's a word for people who think they need pseudo assault
rifles, and multiple large capacity magazines, to "protect
their families".


Agreed. Which it is more likely to do is kill one of the members of the family. By accident or mental unwellness.
Apparently Ad hom is the soup de jour!

no photo
Sat 12/29/12 12:29 PM


I believe there's a word for people who think they need pseudo assault
rifles, and multiple large capacity magazines, to "protect
their families".


Agreed. Which it is more likely to do is kill one of the members of the family. By accident or mental unwellness.



Jessie Ventura on gun control says it is not about hunting or even about protecting yourself in your home. It is to protect and defend our freedom against a dictator. This is really what it is about

Damn I love Jessie Ventura...

On gun control..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_FJSqYBLVE

JustDukkyMkII's photo
Sat 12/29/12 04:03 PM



I believe there's a word for people who think they need pseudo assault
rifles, and multiple large capacity magazines, to "protect
their families".


Agreed. Which it is more likely to do is kill one of the members of the family. By accident or mental unwellness.



Jessie Ventura on gun control says it is not about hunting or even about protecting yourself in your home. It is to protect and defend our freedom against a dictator. This is really what it is about

Damn I love Jessie Ventura...

On gun control..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_FJSqYBLVE



I love ol' Jesse too.

The sad thing is that the people of a (once-great) nation would need an ex pro wrestler to tell them what should have been carved into their breasts from birth. I hate to say it, (because the courageous and innocent among you are going to pay in blood for the sins of their decadent fellows) but in general, the people of the US are soon going to find that their just dessert has the taste of bitter almonds.

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