No, but between unlabeled GMOs, fluoridation, codex alimentarius restricting vitamins and a few similar things, it is not much of a stretch to say that the government is making it "illegal" to be healthy.

don't forget banning of raw milk sales in some states, and the lack of control on chemicals/preservatives in foods......you really cannot give them an inch of leeway on this because once you do that you open the door to them controlling more and more and more. That's not conspiracy, or paranoia, that's fact, one honest look at the handling of the food supply, what they allow and what they ban tells you that. Left unchecked they WILL control it all and they are damn near close to that now.

These "guidelines" are meant to serve THEIR interests, to make them money, to keep us sick and dependent on them, to kill us off.....they are not meant to serve any of ours. If you disagree with that, you best look a hell of a lot closer, because you are very misinformed.

yep, misinformed about how to know the intentions of EVERY person involved in making guidelines for food and drugs,,,,

Look at the fruits! Are there people involved in the industry that may have good intentions? Sure, but that doesn't matter, what matters is what is HAPPENING, and what is happening is we are being ****ing poisoned, and the FDA is allowing it! That is fact! Have you LOOKED at the garbage allowed in our packaged foods? Seriously looked??!!

How can you sit there with a straight face and actually trust them when they allow all that crap absolute CRAP that has no damn business in our food supply, and is making us sick in any number of ways? Tell me how! Are you really that damn naive?? Seriously??? Wake the hell up!!!

If they truly cared, all that **** would be off the shelves, it would NEVER have hit the market, THAT is what they'd be targeting, not REAL food PROVEN to have health benefits.

And that's not even TOUCHING what they allow in our meats, and to be sprayed on our fruits and vegetables! Why is it that in order to be certified organic you have to pay up the *** for it, but you can spray all the chemicals you want for nothing? Why?? Who is driving this to be this way? And for what reason?

These are questions we MUST be asking! If we aren't, then we deserve to be fed crap, deserve to be told what we can and can't eat, because we don't have the balls to question what they're doing. By being silent we are consenting, period.

The food and drug industry as it stands right now is entirely money and greed driven, good intentions of some people working in it or not. If you can't see that, you either don't want to see it, or you are just completely ignorant to it.

have you traveled beyond american borders?

do you know how much truly 'sicker' we could be if not for some of the oversight and regulations we have,,,?

its a choice,, the choice to see the devesatation possible of the choice to see the 'restriction' imposed

I happen to understand and feel blessed that we have the oversights we have, I dont expect them to be perfect or even defensible 100% of the time,, but the odds are still good enough for me not to feel like its doom and gloom,,,

I see how doom and gloom has happened elsewhere,,,when there was no oversight

and I understnad there are occasions when people are poisoned by some of the choices,, there is legal recourse for those instances

but they are not the rule by any means,,,

Legal recourse??? Are you KIDDING ME??!! Where???! Where is the recourse in these big companies being allowed to put in again CRAP by the truckload in our foods and not get any punishment for it? Where is the recourse in companies allowed to treat their animals like ****, and injecting them with hormones to make them fatter, and then maybe getting a slap on the wrist if caught MAYBE. Where is the recourse in again being allowed to spray chemical after chemical on crops again with NO punishment? Even drug companies can release a drug and only AFTER the fact that it kills or harms do they get punished, but AGAIN it is barely a slap on the wrist at that. You tell me where the justice is in allowing all that WILLFULLY, and yet going after the little guys time and again, shutting them down entirely for the smallest damn violation, if there even is one at all?!

If that's what you call justice you got a hell of a way of defining it! I call it hypocrisy and double standard. The playing field is NOT level I don't care how much you wanna believe it is, you're still wrong, it's as far from level as it could possibly be in favor of the elite.

This is not a CHOICE of seeing devestation it is FACT, and anyone with even half a damn brain could tell you that. Go back 40-50 years, were we EVER this sick back then? Hell no we weren't! Where did it change? When processed and convenience foods came into play, coincidence???? Give me a god damn break!

Please I beg of you think and educate yourself before you speak, please. Speaking at the mouth on things you are totally clueless about is just making you look dumber and dumber.

continuing to assume that my disagreeing with you has anything to do with my brain being any less capable or more 'clueless' than yours, is making you look more and more pompous and stubborn,,,,

my brain uses LOGIC and REALITY,, which both have taught me in my forty plus years that no man, no government, and no system will ever be PERFECT or beyond improvement

my character keeps me from obsessing and whinging constantly over any imperfection I find,,,

Imperfection and flaws are one thing, but this system goes so far beyond that it's ridiculous, even a small child could see that!! This is NOT a matter of one or two little things that have no effect, this is a matter of a lot of BIG things that are effecting every aspect of our lives. Period.

THAT is reality, you are living in one that is not even CLOSE to the real world. You're NOT thinking logically, I don't care what you say, when you can see all that and just dismiss it as "imperfections" this is much bigger than that.

And yes you ARE clueless because you have no idea of the effects all this is having on us all or you are choosing to ignore them. If saying that makes me pompous and stubborn than fine I'm pompous and stubborn I don't give a damn! You're one to talk you're as stubborn as you claim I am because no matter what anyone tells you to the contrary you hold on to your fantasy world for dear life making any excuse for it you can. So you're no better than me.

And regardless of all that, this is not some minor disagreement this a matter of good vs evil, and you're either supporting one side or the other. I don't care how good intentioned you me be, you are on the wrong side and I will not hesitate to say it. If you wanna judge me for it I don't care, I'll still say it because it's the truth.

But whatever, if you wanna be naive and blindly support people who could care less about you, then fine go right ahead. I'm out.

touche,,,,,,

have fun on whatever 'side' you have chosen

,, I will move on through reality ,,,,,

I suggest you do a parity check. I think cosmic rays may have caused a few bits to switch in the CPU...It's probably time to reboot.

yes, in the cosmos that center around what you believe, maybe

but Im fine with the bits I have, and btw, ad hominem is one of the signs of an inability to make an actual argument or give an actual explanation

Hey, I was only trying to be helpful. I know all about ad hominem; for you to imply otherwise was in itself a form of ad hominem innuendo, but hey, who's counting?...We're all on here to have fun eh? Why argue at all?

indeed

adults can agree to disagree and leave it at that,,,

I did not say that "people ONLY oppose same sex marriage because of religious belief". I said that religious beliefs were the main reason.

By the way, the Bible doesn't say not to kill. It says not to murder.

depends upon the translation

its as much an assumption that religion is the MAIN reason as well,,

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/first_amendment

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until such time a non religious argument can be made for or against
marriage any law banning a marriage is a law establishing a religion

as for voting making it law then if it is voted that you should be a slave should you be forced to become a slave

the bill of rights override the peoples wants when those wants
trample the rights of the minority

non religious arguments are made


stealing should be against the law because it is violating someones ownership,, and it is also one of the commandments

murdering is against the law because it is violating someones life, and it is also one of the commandments

adultery isnt against the law, but it can be penalized in cases of divorce,, and it is one of the commandments

marriage is not defined as a right in the constitution, therefore the argument that everyone should have the 'right' is not well founded

if marriage is a 'right' than biology nor age should matter, and incest should not be illegal,,, HOWEVER because of the potential longterm risk of a society of incestuous families,, we dont encourage it,, or promote it, or allow it in the LEGAL DEFINITION of marriage

yet, family members all over the world and america choose to lay down with each other,, so long as its consentual with no complaints, there is not really any penalty there either,,,,but that is a stretch from the government stepping in and supporting that choice through a license

children are shown to do better in general when they are raised by both parents,, since , in general, heterosexual unions produce children,, it is within the best interest of SOCIETY to encourage these heterosexuals to make a legally binding commitment

there is no such societal interest in licensing wht homosexuals choose to do with each other

at best, there could be the argument made for equal 'rights', by way of a 'civil union' which would completely seperate the issue of what sexual relationship there is or is not, and would give all adults the choice to share their life and assets and benefits with whomever they chose,,,,,to have it be documented as such and legally binding,,,

most arguments against gay marriage are along religious lines

adam n eve not adam n steve

it is an abomination for man to lay with man

it says its wrong in the bible

i dont really like the idea but

until i hear a real reason to ban it other than a religious reason
then more power to them

just leave me out of it lol

here are non religious reasons:

Anal sex has a number of health risks. Anal intercourse is the riskiest form of sexual activity for several reasons, including the following:
The anus lacks the natural lubrication the vagina has. Penetration can tear the tissue inside the anus, allowing bacteria and viruses to enter the bloodstream. This can result in the spread of sexually transmitted infections including HIV. Studies have suggested that anal exposure to HIV poses 30 times more risk for the receptive partner than vaginal exposure. Exposure to the human papillomavirus (HPV) may also lead to the development of anal warts and anal cancer. Using lubricants can help some, but doesn't completely prevent tearing.
The tissue inside the anus is not as well protected as the skin outside theanus.Our external tissue has layers of dead cells that serve as a protective barrier against infection. The tissue inside the anus does not have this natural protection, which leaves it vulnerable to tearing and the spread of infection.
The anus was designed to hold in feces. The anus is surrounded with a ring-like muscle, called the anal sphincter, which tightens after we defecate. When the muscle is tight, anal penetration can be painful and difficult. Repetitive anal sex may lead to weakening of the anal sphincter, making it difficult to hold in feces until you can get to the toilet. However, Kegel exercises to strengthen the sphincter may help prevent this problem or correct it.
The anus is full of bacteria. Even if both partners do not have a sexually-transmitted infection or disease, bacteria normally in the anus can potentially infect the giving partner. Practicing vaginal sex after anal sex can also lead to vaginal and urinary tract infections.



so, with the risks of anal sex outweighing any significant impact on society like procreation does


why is it governments business to endorse, promote, encourage or license it?

its enough to let it be a personal and private choice, IM against government licensing and putting its stamp of approval and endorsement on it,,,