Topic: Why the States Should Be Out of Marriage. (Or Legalize All M
Conrad_73's photo
Thu 03/28/13 11:31 AM

i don't trust anything the famous singers/actors/athletes have to say about gay marriage, because if they say they don't agree with it, the media shuns them. they can't afford to have a personal opinion, if they wanna keep doing what they are doing...
I doubt Willie Nelson ever really gives a Crap about Public Opinion!laugh

boredinaz06's photo
Thu 03/28/13 11:36 AM



I think its ridiculous that this is getting so much attention when Obama just into law H.R. 933 which includes section 755 which is the Monsanto Protection Act.

We have drones flying over us spying us.

Our employees are continuously making backroom closed door deals without letting us know about them.

The NDAA is still in effect.

DHS is buying up all the ammo.

DHS just purchased over 2000 light armored tanks.

The gulf coast is still in shambles because of BP, BUT gay marriage is getting all the attention. Merica, get your priorities straight.

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Thu 03/28/13 11:42 AM




I think its ridiculous that this is getting so much attention when Obama just into law H.R. 933 which includes section 755 which is the Monsanto Protection Act.

We have drones flying over us spying us.

Our employees are continuously making backroom closed door deals without letting us know about them.

The NDAA is still in effect.

DHS is buying up all the ammo.

DHS just purchased over 2000 light armored tanks.

The gulf coast is still in shambles because of BP, BUT gay marriage is getting all the attention. Merica, get your priorities straight.


Whining about how these topics aren't getting enough coverage in a thread they have nothing to do with isn't going to do anything.

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 03/28/13 11:44 AM




I think its ridiculous that this is getting so much attention when Obama just into law H.R. 933 which includes section 755 which is the Monsanto Protection Act.

We have drones flying over us spying us.

Our employees are continuously making backroom closed door deals without letting us know about them.

The NDAA is still in effect.

DHS is buying up all the ammo.

DHS just purchased over 2000 light armored tanks.

The gulf coast is still in shambles because of BP, BUT gay marriage is getting all the attention. Merica, get your priorities straight.


http://www.ibtimes.com/monsanto-protection-act-5-terrifying-things-know-about-hr-933-provision-1156079

and all that happened when the Nation was busy whining about Same-Sex-Marriage!

Classic Wizard of Oz Syndrome!
"Don't pay no Mind to the Man Behind the Curtain"!
Obama gracefully signed the Law,knowing very well what was in it!


The "Monsanto Protection Act" is the name opponents of the Farmer Assurance Provision have given to this terrifying piece of policy, and it's a fitting moniker given its shocking content.

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Monsanto
REUTERS
A maize seedling is seen in the corn greenhouse at the Monsanto Research facility in Chesterfield, Missouri October 9, 2009.

Sponsorship Link

President Barack Obama signed a spending bill, HR 933, into law on Tuesday that includes language that has food and consumer advocates and organic farmers up in arms over their contention that the so-called "Monsanto Protection Act" is a giveaway to corporations that was passed under the cover of darkness.

There's a lot being said about it, but here are five terrifying facts about the Farmer Assurance Provision -- Section 735 of the spending bill -- to get you acquainted with the reasons behind the ongoing uproar:

1.) The "Monsanto Protection Act" effectively bars federal courts from being able to halt the sale or planting of controversial genetically modified (aka GMO) or genetically engineered (GE) seeds, no matter what health issues may arise concerning GMOs in the future. The advent of genetically modified seeds -- which has been driven by the massive Monsanto Company -- and their exploding use in farms across America came on fast and has proved a huge boon for Monsanto's profits.

But many anti-GMO folks argue there have not been enough studies into the potential health risks of this new class of crop. Well, now it appears that even if those studies are completed and they end up revealing severe adverse health effects related to the consumption of genetically modified foods, the courts will have no ability to stop the spread of the seeds and the crops they bear.

2.) The provision's language was apparently written in collusion with Monsanto. Lawmakers and companies working together to craft legislation is by no means a rare occurrence in this day and age. But the fact that Sen. Roy Blunt, Republican of Missouri, actually worked with Monsanto on a provision that in effect allows them to keep selling seeds, which can then go on to be planted, even if it is found to be harmful to consumers, is stunning. It's just another example of corporations bending Congress to their will, and it's one that could have dire risks for public health in America.

3.) Many members of Congress were apparently unaware that the "Monsanto Protection Act" even existed within the bill they were voting on. HR 933 was a spending bill aimed at averting a government shutdown and ensuring that the federal government would continue to be able to pay its bills. But the Center for Food Safety maintains that many Democrats in Congress were not even aware that the provision was in the legislation:

“In this hidden backroom deal, Sen. [Barbara] Mikulski turned her back on consumer, environmental and farmer protection in favor of corporate welfare for biotech companies such as Monsanto,” Andrew Kimbrell, executive director of the Center for Food Safety, said in a statement. “This abuse of power is not the kind of leadership the public has come to expect from Sen. Mikulski or the Democrat Majority in the Senate.”

4.) The President did nothing to stop it, either. On Tuesday, Obama signed HR 933 while the rest of the nation was fixated on gay marriage, as the U.S. Supreme Court heard oral argument concerning California's Proposition 8. But just because most of the nation and the media were paying attention to gay marriage doesn't mean that others were not doing their best to express their opposition to the "Monsanto Protection Act." In fact, more than 250,000 voters signed a petition opposing the provision. And Food Democracy Now protesters even took their fight straight to Obama, protesting in front of the White House against Section 735 of the bill. He signed it anyway.

5.) It sets a terrible precedent. Though it will only remain in effect for six months until the government finds another way to fund its operations, the message it sends is that corporations can get around consumer safety protections if they get Congress on their side. Furthermore, it sets a precedent that suggests that court challenges are a privilege, not a right.

“I think any time you tweak with the ability of the public to seek redress from the courts, you create a huge risk,” Seattle attorney Bill Marler -- who has represented victims of foodborne illness in successful lawsuits against corporations -- told the New York Daily News.


boredinaz06's photo
Thu 03/28/13 11:45 AM





I think its ridiculous that this is getting so much attention when Obama just into law H.R. 933 which includes section 755 which is the Monsanto Protection Act.

We have drones flying over us spying us.

Our employees are continuously making backroom closed door deals without letting us know about them.

The NDAA is still in effect.

DHS is buying up all the ammo.

DHS just purchased over 2000 light armored tanks.

The gulf coast is still in shambles because of BP, BUT gay marriage is getting all the attention. Merica, get your priorities straight.


Whining about how these topics aren't getting enough coverage in a thread they have nothing to do with isn't going to do anything.


I'm not whining, just pointing out that we have far more important things to worry about than two men marrying. Gays wanting to get married benefits gays, what I posted would a great benefit to us all to do something about or grave decision to focus on distractions which is what this is.

boredinaz06's photo
Thu 03/28/13 11:47 AM





I think its ridiculous that this is getting so much attention when Obama just into law H.R. 933 which includes section 755 which is the Monsanto Protection Act.

We have drones flying over us spying us.

Our employees are continuously making backroom closed door deals without letting us know about them.

The NDAA is still in effect.

DHS is buying up all the ammo.

DHS just purchased over 2000 light armored tanks.

The gulf coast is still in shambles because of BP, BUT gay marriage is getting all the attention. Merica, get your priorities straight.


http://www.ibtimes.com/monsanto-protection-act-5-terrifying-things-know-about-hr-933-provision-1156079

and all that happened when the Nation was busy whining about Same-Sex-Marriage!

Classic Wizard of Oz Syndrome!
"Don't pay no Mind to the Man Behind the Curtain"!
Obama gracefully signed the Law,knowing very well what was in it!


The "Monsanto Protection Act" is the name opponents of the Farmer Assurance Provision have given to this terrifying piece of policy, and it's a fitting moniker given its shocking content.

*
Monsanto
REUTERS
A maize seedling is seen in the corn greenhouse at the Monsanto Research facility in Chesterfield, Missouri October 9, 2009.

Sponsorship Link

President Barack Obama signed a spending bill, HR 933, into law on Tuesday that includes language that has food and consumer advocates and organic farmers up in arms over their contention that the so-called "Monsanto Protection Act" is a giveaway to corporations that was passed under the cover of darkness.

There's a lot being said about it, but here are five terrifying facts about the Farmer Assurance Provision -- Section 735 of the spending bill -- to get you acquainted with the reasons behind the ongoing uproar:

1.) The "Monsanto Protection Act" effectively bars federal courts from being able to halt the sale or planting of controversial genetically modified (aka GMO) or genetically engineered (GE) seeds, no matter what health issues may arise concerning GMOs in the future. The advent of genetically modified seeds -- which has been driven by the massive Monsanto Company -- and their exploding use in farms across America came on fast and has proved a huge boon for Monsanto's profits.

But many anti-GMO folks argue there have not been enough studies into the potential health risks of this new class of crop. Well, now it appears that even if those studies are completed and they end up revealing severe adverse health effects related to the consumption of genetically modified foods, the courts will have no ability to stop the spread of the seeds and the crops they bear.

2.) The provision's language was apparently written in collusion with Monsanto. Lawmakers and companies working together to craft legislation is by no means a rare occurrence in this day and age. But the fact that Sen. Roy Blunt, Republican of Missouri, actually worked with Monsanto on a provision that in effect allows them to keep selling seeds, which can then go on to be planted, even if it is found to be harmful to consumers, is stunning. It's just another example of corporations bending Congress to their will, and it's one that could have dire risks for public health in America.

3.) Many members of Congress were apparently unaware that the "Monsanto Protection Act" even existed within the bill they were voting on. HR 933 was a spending bill aimed at averting a government shutdown and ensuring that the federal government would continue to be able to pay its bills. But the Center for Food Safety maintains that many Democrats in Congress were not even aware that the provision was in the legislation:

“In this hidden backroom deal, Sen. [Barbara] Mikulski turned her back on consumer, environmental and farmer protection in favor of corporate welfare for biotech companies such as Monsanto,” Andrew Kimbrell, executive director of the Center for Food Safety, said in a statement. “This abuse of power is not the kind of leadership the public has come to expect from Sen. Mikulski or the Democrat Majority in the Senate.”

4.) The President did nothing to stop it, either. On Tuesday, Obama signed HR 933 while the rest of the nation was fixated on gay marriage, as the U.S. Supreme Court heard oral argument concerning California's Proposition 8. But just because most of the nation and the media were paying attention to gay marriage doesn't mean that others were not doing their best to express their opposition to the "Monsanto Protection Act." In fact, more than 250,000 voters signed a petition opposing the provision. And Food Democracy Now protesters even took their fight straight to Obama, protesting in front of the White House against Section 735 of the bill. He signed it anyway.

5.) It sets a terrible precedent. Though it will only remain in effect for six months until the government finds another way to fund its operations, the message it sends is that corporations can get around consumer safety protections if they get Congress on their side. Furthermore, it sets a precedent that suggests that court challenges are a privilege, not a right.

“I think any time you tweak with the ability of the public to seek redress from the courts, you create a huge risk,” Seattle attorney Bill Marler -- who has represented victims of foodborne illness in successful lawsuits against corporations -- told the New York Daily News.




:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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Thu 03/28/13 11:55 AM






I think its ridiculous that this is getting so much attention when Obama just into law H.R. 933 which includes section 755 which is the Monsanto Protection Act.

We have drones flying over us spying us.

Our employees are continuously making backroom closed door deals without letting us know about them.

The NDAA is still in effect.

DHS is buying up all the ammo.

DHS just purchased over 2000 light armored tanks.

The gulf coast is still in shambles because of BP, BUT gay marriage is getting all the attention. Merica, get your priorities straight.


Whining about how these topics aren't getting enough coverage in a thread they have nothing to do with isn't going to do anything.


I'm not whining, just pointing out that we have far more important things to worry about than two men marrying. Gays wanting to get married benefits gays, what I posted would a great benefit to us all to do something about or grave decision to focus on distractions which is what this is.


It is the classic distraction tactic. They do it all the time.


no photo
Thu 03/28/13 12:04 PM






I think its ridiculous that this is getting so much attention when Obama just into law H.R. 933 which includes section 755 which is the Monsanto Protection Act.

We have drones flying over us spying us.

Our employees are continuously making backroom closed door deals without letting us know about them.

The NDAA is still in effect.

DHS is buying up all the ammo.

DHS just purchased over 2000 light armored tanks.

The gulf coast is still in shambles because of BP, BUT gay marriage is getting all the attention. Merica, get your priorities straight.


Whining about how these topics aren't getting enough coverage in a thread they have nothing to do with isn't going to do anything.


I'm not whining, just pointing out that we have far more important things to worry about than two men marrying. Gays wanting to get married benefits gays, what I posted would a great benefit to us all to do something about or grave decision to focus on distractions which is what this is.


Do something about it, then, and stop worrying about gay marriage. Complaining about those things in this thread will do nothing except get the thread off topic.

mightymoe's photo
Thu 03/28/13 12:13 PM




i don't trust anything the famous singers/actors/athletes have to say about gay marriage, because if they say they don't agree with it, the media shuns them. they can't afford to have a personal opinion, if they wanna keep doing what they are doing...


I disagree, because even if they speak out for gay marriage, those fans who are against it could shun them. So, I respect them for speaking out against something they feel is important at the risk of losing fans.


really? name one thats been shunned by speaking for gay marriage...


I was just thinking back when singers have spoken out against what their fans think. The gay marriage thing is pretty recent, so we'll have to see if that actually happens. I don't have an example for you right now.

I mean, we see things happening like when Ellen Degeneres was named spokesperson for JC Penny and people got completely outraged over that. Imagine what could happen if celebrities started speaking out for gay marriage?


ellen's a nice person, i can't see why anyone would be outraged by her... elton john has been pro gay as long as i can remember, he never shunned...

and i guess you forgot about chic fillet, all they did was voice there opinion, and look what happened..

Tim Tebow, he'll never play in the NFL...
Kurt Cameron, he'll never act again...
Tracey Morgan, not sure about his acting ability to begin with...
Michelle Shocked... i'm sure San Fransisco won't ask her back...http://music.yahoo.com/blogs/stop-the-presses/folk-legend-incites-mass-walkout-anti-gay-speech-195312874.html
Louie Giglio, he cannot have an opinion, obama fired him for his opinions... http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/01/10/louie-giglio-pulls-out-of-inaugural-over-anti-gay-comments/
A Floridian "teacher of the year" fired for not agreeing with gay marriage... again, he's not allowed an opinion...http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/08/19/florida-teacher-suspended-for-anti-gay-marriage-post-on-personal-facebook/

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/12/top-rick-perry-staffer-called-campaigns-anti-gay-ad-nuts.php

can you show me any famous people getting shunned for their pro gay stance?

Kleisto's photo
Thu 03/28/13 01:52 PM







I think its ridiculous that this is getting so much attention when Obama just into law H.R. 933 which includes section 755 which is the Monsanto Protection Act.

We have drones flying over us spying us.

Our employees are continuously making backroom closed door deals without letting us know about them.

The NDAA is still in effect.

DHS is buying up all the ammo.

DHS just purchased over 2000 light armored tanks.

The gulf coast is still in shambles because of BP, BUT gay marriage is getting all the attention. Merica, get your priorities straight.


Whining about how these topics aren't getting enough coverage in a thread they have nothing to do with isn't going to do anything.


I'm not whining, just pointing out that we have far more important things to worry about than two men marrying. Gays wanting to get married benefits gays, what I posted would a great benefit to us all to do something about or grave decision to focus on distractions which is what this is.


Do something about it, then, and stop worrying about gay marriage. Complaining about those things in this thread will do nothing except get the thread off topic.


I don't think he is worrying about gay marriage at all, that's kinda the point of his statement. We're worrying about the wrong things, and I agree with that, this should be a non issue. If gays wanna marry they should be able to do so, there's bigger things to worry about than that happening.

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Thu 03/28/13 01:54 PM


Marriage is a religious practice and government should not be in it. Government wants to be involved so they can tax certain things involve with marriage.

Now if something comes up for a vote by the people, then it is law and not even the courts has a right to over turn the will of the people. When the people vote, not politicians, which is the highest authority in the land. Are highest rules, like the Constitution and Bill of Rights can only be change by the people. Sure it has to pass congress first but only when 2/3, if I remember correctly, votes one way then that way becomes law.

Marriage is not a right in our country but a privilege. I don’t recall marriage being in the Constitution.



If marriage was solely a religious practice, why are non-religious people allowed to marry?

Marriage is a religious practice that our government took up, much like how they pray in congress.

Kleisto's photo
Thu 03/28/13 01:55 PM
Edited by Kleisto on Thu 03/28/13 01:56 PM



Marriage is a religious practice and government should not be in it. Government wants to be involved so they can tax certain things involve with marriage.

Now if something comes up for a vote by the people, then it is law and not even the courts has a right to over turn the will of the people. When the people vote, not politicians, which is the highest authority in the land. Are highest rules, like the Constitution and Bill of Rights can only be change by the people. Sure it has to pass congress first but only when 2/3, if I remember correctly, votes one way then that way becomes law.

Marriage is not a right in our country but a privilege. I don’t recall marriage being in the Constitution.



i'm not for gay marriage by any means, but technically, i think that gay marriage could be considered in the constitution, under the pursuit of happiness clause...


pursuit of happiness is the declaration of independence, not the constitution,,,


but , I agree, that and a pandoras box of other activities could easily slide into the category of 'pursuit of happiness',,,,




Heaven forbid people are allowed to pursue their own path to personal happiness.......

I swear some of you people need to get over yourselves, you act as if everything revolves around you and what you want and how you wish people to act. Doesn't work that way.

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Thu 03/28/13 01:58 PM
loving someone, having consentual sex with someone is a HUMAN RIGHT

having the state validate, certify, encourage, promote, reward your choice of love or sex is not a HUMAN RIGHT<,,

Human right is meaningless in the court of law. Human right is not a legal right and is just someone’s opinion and many are tied to entitlements in which we are not really entitled too.

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Thu 03/28/13 02:06 PM



Marriage is a religious practice and government should not be in it. Government wants to be involved so they can tax certain things involve with marriage.

Now if something comes up for a vote by the people, then it is law and not even the courts has a right to over turn the will of the people. When the people vote, not politicians, which is the highest authority in the land. Are highest rules, like the Constitution and Bill of Rights can only be change by the people. Sure it has to pass congress first but only when 2/3, if I remember correctly, votes one way then that way becomes law.

Marriage is not a right in our country but a privilege. I don’t recall marriage being in the Constitution.



i'm not for gay marriage by any means, but technically, i think that gay marriage could be considered in the constitution, under the pursuit of happiness clause...


Its not in the constitution its in the declaration of independence.

Marriage is NOT a right. It is a legal designation that must be met by certain criteria.

The license is issued by the states. Not the federal government.

The 10th amendment clearly states:

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."



Which is why some wanted to make an amendment to the constitution to defined marriage between one man and one woman so no state can pass a law saying other wise and no court would have the power to over turn it.

Although if we do allow states to decide and let gays marry, then can Utah return back to polygamy. After all, one requirement we had for them to join the union is they have to ban polygamy and accept monogamy.

I have no problem with states deciding what they want to define as marriage but I do not think it would be right to get married in one state and moved to anther that by their laws do not accept your marriage and force them to by a court order. After all, if some has multiple wives and moves to my state, they should not be able to force the state to accept their marriage after the people of my state voted to defined marriage as between one man and one women. And if say like Washington state was to pass that only gay marriage is aloud and none other, a heterosexual couple should not be able to go their and have a court overturn it if the people voted the law in.

no photo
Thu 03/28/13 02:17 PM
May I ask what does being “Married,” mean in our country? The problem is not being aloud to marry but wither the government will acknowledge you being married. The marriage license does what? Change a person last name? A default will of inheritance to property? A legal right to certain things like social security checks in a relationship with another person? Wanting the government to recognize the union you have with another so they can put you in a hire tax bracket? Or simple to have access to your partners Social security check?

With the exception of a few government things, marriage license is just of the government to recognize a type of contract between to people. We say marriage is a bond but it is a contract between two people by the legal view.

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Thu 03/28/13 05:28 PM
My point is that the State Should Get Out of Marriage all together; if not we need to Kick it Out of the Wedding Chappel.

Traumer's photo
Thu 03/28/13 05:54 PM

Marriage is a religious practice and government should not be in it. Government wants to be involved so they can tax certain things involve with marriage.

Now if something comes up for a vote by the people, then it is law and not even the courts has a right to over turn the will of the people. When the people vote, not politicians, which is the highest authority in the land. Are highest rules, like the Constitution and Bill of Rights can only be change by the people. Sure it has to pass congress first but only when 2/3, if I remember correctly, votes one way then that way becomes law.

Marriage is not a right in our country but a privilege. I don’t recall marriage being in the Constitution.



Neither are the assorted mental disturbances that afflict people and hookers aren't either which many would term one of the many pursuits of happiness...can hookers and mental conditions be regarded as privileges...laugh

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Thu 03/28/13 06:20 PM








I think its ridiculous that this is getting so much attention when Obama just into law H.R. 933 which includes section 755 which is the Monsanto Protection Act.

We have drones flying over us spying us.

Our employees are continuously making backroom closed door deals without letting us know about them.

The NDAA is still in effect.

DHS is buying up all the ammo.

DHS just purchased over 2000 light armored tanks.

The gulf coast is still in shambles because of BP, BUT gay marriage is getting all the attention. Merica, get your priorities straight.


Whining about how these topics aren't getting enough coverage in a thread they have nothing to do with isn't going to do anything.


I'm not whining, just pointing out that we have far more important things to worry about than two men marrying. Gays wanting to get married benefits gays, what I posted would a great benefit to us all to do something about or grave decision to focus on distractions which is what this is.


Do something about it, then, and stop worrying about gay marriage. Complaining about those things in this thread will do nothing except get the thread off topic.


I don't think he is worrying about gay marriage at all, that's kinda the point of his statement. We're worrying about the wrong things, and I agree with that, this should be a non issue. If gays wanna marry they should be able to do so, there's bigger things to worry about than that happening.


its a false logic which ASSUMES that people are or are not worrying on one thing based upon their voicing an opinion about something else

we are capable of ' worrying' about many things at once

but conversations are best if they center around one topic at a time,,,

Kleisto's photo
Thu 03/28/13 07:16 PM
Edited by Kleisto on Thu 03/28/13 07:18 PM


I don't think he is worrying about gay marriage at all, that's kinda the point of his statement. We're worrying about the wrong things, and I agree with that, this should be a non issue. If gays wanna marry they should be able to do so, there's bigger things to worry about than that happening.


its a false logic which ASSUMES that people are or are not worrying on one thing based upon their voicing an opinion about something else

we are capable of ' worrying' about many things at once

but conversations are best if they center around one topic at a time,,,


When you look at our world and what we are turning a blind eye to while focusing on insignificant ****.......yeah it's not so false.......

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Thu 03/28/13 07:28 PM





i don't trust anything the famous singers/actors/athletes have to say about gay marriage, because if they say they don't agree with it, the media shuns them. they can't afford to have a personal opinion, if they wanna keep doing what they are doing...


I disagree, because even if they speak out for gay marriage, those fans who are against it could shun them. So, I respect them for speaking out against something they feel is important at the risk of losing fans.


really? name one thats been shunned by speaking for gay marriage...


I was just thinking back when singers have spoken out against what their fans think. The gay marriage thing is pretty recent, so we'll have to see if that actually happens. I don't have an example for you right now.

I mean, we see things happening like when Ellen Degeneres was named spokesperson for JC Penny and people got completely outraged over that. Imagine what could happen if celebrities started speaking out for gay marriage?


ellen's a nice person, i can't see why anyone would be outraged by her... elton john has been pro gay as long as i can remember, he never shunned...

and i guess you forgot about chic fillet, all they did was voice there opinion, and look what happened..

Tim Tebow, he'll never play in the NFL...
Kurt Cameron, he'll never act again...
Tracey Morgan, not sure about his acting ability to begin with...
Michelle Shocked... i'm sure San Fransisco won't ask her back...http://music.yahoo.com/blogs/stop-the-presses/folk-legend-incites-mass-walkout-anti-gay-speech-195312874.html
Louie Giglio, he cannot have an opinion, obama fired him for his opinions... http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/01/10/louie-giglio-pulls-out-of-inaugural-over-anti-gay-comments/
A Floridian "teacher of the year" fired for not agreeing with gay marriage... again, he's not allowed an opinion...http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/08/19/florida-teacher-suspended-for-anti-gay-marriage-post-on-personal-facebook/

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/12/top-rick-perry-staffer-called-campaigns-anti-gay-ad-nuts.php

can you show me any famous people getting shunned for their pro gay stance?


I already answered your question in the previous post.

But, if we're talking about companies, several have been boycotted by the anti-gay crowd for speaking out in favor of homosexuality including JC Penny, General Mills and Oreo just to name a few.

As for your examples, Tim Tebow has played in the NFL and I didn't realize Kirk Cameron was still relevant today. Not sure who Michelle Shocked is, I can see why they wouldn't want Louie Giglio in the inauguration after making homophobic comments and I'm sure the teacher went beyond having an opinion to saying something in public. If he violated the code of ethics, he should take responsibility for what he said. Your article says he was suspended, not fired.

If you want to talk about teachers - there was one suspended for playing a song called "same love" in a class, because there was a pro-gay message.