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Topic: Senate Rejects Expanded Background Checks For Gun Sales
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Wed 04/17/13 03:30 PM

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A bipartisan compromise that would have expanded federal background checks for firearms purchases has been rejected by the Senate.

The defeat of the measure by a 54-46 vote — six votes shy of the number needed to clear the Senate — marks a major setback for gun-control advocates, many of whom had hoped that Congress would act to curb gun violence in the wake of December's Newtown elementary school massacre, where 20 students and six adults were killed.

The National Rifle Association fought the expansion of background checks, saying criminals would simply ignore them, The Associated Press reports.

The expanded background checks were aimed at closing loopholes and keeping criminals and the seriously mentally ill from getting firearms. Currently, the checks only apply to purchases handled by licensed firearms dealers.

In a last-ditch appeal on Wednesday, White House press secretary Jay Carney urged senators to "consider who they're representing," and pointed out that "90 percent of the American people support expanded background checks. If you are opposed to this legislation, you should obviously explain why you are against what 90 percent of the people are for."

But a recent Associated Press-GfK poll shows waning public support for tighter gun laws. According to the AP: Overall "49 percent said gun laws should be made stricter while 38 percent said they should stay the same," according to the survey of 1,004 randomly chosen adults conducted from April 11-15.

Reuters says: "Other measures backed by [President Obama] — including a proposal to ban rapid-firing 'assault' weapons like the one used in Connecticut and a limit on ammunition magazines — also are expected to fail as the Senate conducts nine consecutive votes on gun-control legislation."


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Wed 04/17/13 04:18 PM
Great news.

Screw those libs.
They want to live in a Gun Free Zone, they can move to Chicago and feel really safe.

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Wed 04/17/13 04:24 PM
All the bill did was expand background checks to gun shows and internet sales. I do not feel that infringes on the second amendment, sorry.

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Wed 04/17/13 06:13 PM

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Wed 04/17/13 07:00 PM

All the bill did was expand background checks to gun shows and internet sales. I do not feel that infringes on the second amendment, sorry.



They also mentioned something about people with "mental disorders."

That could open a huge can of worms giving the government the right to have people's medical records and any confidential psychiatrist records, what kind of anti-depressants people are taking etc.

It can also lead to giving them the right to pick people up and toss them into a mental facility for a 30 day evaluation if they suspect they are "a danger" due to their mental attitude.

I don't feel comfortable giving the government that much power.

Also, it would basically end gun shows altogether.

Anyway, we already have hundreds of gun regulations that are simply NEVER ENFORCED ANYWAY.

I celebrate the senate's decision.:banana: :banana:

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Wed 04/17/13 08:17 PM


Not only that but Feinsteins assault weapons ban FAILED
The magazine ban FAILED


Makes me happier than a weasel in a chicken coophappy :banana: happy :banana:

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Wed 04/17/13 08:25 PM
Can bet it's not over though, Lord Obama and company will find ways to get a revote.....it's how government works. If at first you don't succeed, keep ramming it down throats till you do, will of the people be damned.

Watch for another shooting perhaps to try and increase the pressure.......wouldn't surprise me.

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Wed 04/17/13 08:31 PM
The fools! Why aren't they banning pressure cookers? It is proven they are weapons of mass destruction!!!

My mother once painted the ceiling of the kitchen with a chicken! (true story)

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Wed 04/17/13 08:46 PM

The fools! Why aren't they banning pressure cookers? It is proven they are weapons of mass destruction!!!

My mother once painted the ceiling of the kitchen with a chicken! (true story)


Don't give em ideas......I thought of this when I heard about the cookers lol.

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Thu 04/18/13 12:23 AM
Great news!
Hope our Idiots here take heed!
Bet our Libtards won't say,"Even in America................:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

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Thu 04/18/13 12:26 AM

The fools! Why aren't they banning pressure cookers? It is proven they are weapons of mass destruction!!!

My mother once painted the ceiling of the kitchen with a chicken! (true story)
Maybe not Pressure Cooker,but look for restrictions on the possession and sale of Gunpowder for Cartridge-reloading

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Thu 04/18/13 01:29 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Thu 04/18/13 01:35 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22194299

17 April 2013 Last updated at 23:25 GMT


Obama attacks senators who rejected gun sale checks

President Obama: "All in all this was a pretty shameful day for Washington"

President Barack Obama has lashed out at senators who blocked a bipartisan plan to support expanded background checks on firearms.

"This was a pretty shameful day for Washington," Mr Obama said at the White House. "But this effort is not over."

The plan was blocked on a 54-46 vote, six votes short of the 60-vote hurdle needed to clear the chamber.

Gun rights groups hailed the defeat of the measure, arguing it would violate the right to bear arms.

The proposal, put forward as an amendment to a broader gun bill, sought to widen the current checks to include online and unlicensed gun show dealers.

President Barack Obama is campaigning for tighter gun laws after 26 people died in a school shooting in Connecticut in December.
Dropping support

In remarks at the White House with a family that lost a son in the Newtown massacre by his side, Mr Obama vowed to continue efforts on tighter gun restrictions.

"If this Congress refuses to listen to the American people... then the real impact is going to have to come from the voters," Mr Obama said, calling on those who supported the plan to let their senators know how disappointed they were.

Mr Obama argued those who voted against the Manchin-Toomey plan had been led only by politics.

"Most of these senators could not offer any good reason why we wouldn't want to make it harder for criminals and those with severe mental illnesses to buy a gun."

The expanded system of background checks, which had been the centrepiece of the president's agenda, was blocked by most Senate Republicans and some Democrats.
file photo of handguns on display at the table of David Petronis of Mechanicville, New York 26 January 2013 The plan sought to expand checks at private and online sales

Plans for a ban on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines have already been removed from the gun-control bill, amid lack of political support. Similar measures failed as amendments on Wednesday.

A recent poll by CNN/ORC suggests that 86% of Americans support expanded background checks, but recent AP opinion surveys show support for generally stricter gun laws has dipped from a high of 58% in January to 48%.

Patricia Maisch, a survivor of the 2011 Arizona shooting that killed six people and severely injured former Representative Gabby Giffords, shouted "Shame on you!" from the Senate gallery as the bill was blocked.

The plan was considered as an amendment to a larger gun-violence bill in the Senate. The bipartisan deal was first brokered by Democratic Senator Joe Manchin and Republican Senator Pat Toomey.
'A lie'

On Wednesday, Sen Manchin said allegations by America's top gun lobby group, the National Rifle Association, that the proposal would require checks for sales and gifts between family and friends and lead to a national registry as "a lie".

He said: "Where I come from in West Virginia, I don't know how to put the words any plainer than this: That is a lie. That is simply a lie and anybody who can read knows that is not factual."

Mr Obama also said the gun lobby had "wilfully lied about the bill" and that a vocal minority of gun owners had "intimidated" senators into voting against the plan.

The proposal had exempted transfers between family and friends, and had explicitly banned the justice department from setting up a national gun registry.

In a statement, the NRA hailed the defeat of the amendment.

"As we have noted previously, expanding background checks, at gun shows or elsewhere, will not reduce violent crime or keep our kids safe in their schools," said the statement.

Three other Republicans joined Sen Toomey in backing the plan - Arizona's John McCain, Maine's Susan Collins and Mark Kirk of Illinois.

Democratic Senators Mark Begich of Alaska, Max Baucus of Montana, Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota and Mark Pryor of Arkansas voted against the measure. Senators Begich, Baucus and Pryor are all seeking re-election next year.

small little man,taking advantage of Victims of Newtown!


In remarks at the White House with a family that lost a son in the Newtown massacre by his side, Mr Obama vowed to continue efforts on tighter gun restrictions.

Can't he see that the Majority do not want his Ideas on Gun-Policy?

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Thu 04/18/13 07:45 AM
It's DC soaps as usual.
They are playing the scene where it looks like 'We The People' won.
We didn't. They still passed many restrictions and will continue until they obtain their goal.
Be it during Hussein Aba fer Life or some other Pre-Paid President.

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Thu 04/18/13 07:51 AM
Cat is out the Bag!

http://www.unitedliberty.org/articles/13358-harry-reid-refers-to-his-gun-control-bill-as-anti-gun

Harry Reid Refers to His Gun Control Bill as “Anti-Gun”

During yesterday’s proceedings in the Senate, Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV), who is ushering the gun control bill through the chamber, referred to the proposed measures as “anti-gun legislation.”

“Mr. President, on the anti-gun legislation in the Senate, we’re making good progress in the effort to schedule a series of votes on Amendments to the anti-gun violence legislation before the Senate,” Reid said during the morning session. He went on to note that votes will be held on the amendments today.

While Reid likely misread his remarks, some may feel like this is a description of the true intent and motives behind the legislation being pushed by Reid and President Barack Obama.

It’s worth nothing that the Congressional Record has been revised. Instead of the above comment, Reid’s comments now read, “Mr. President, on the anti-gun violence legislation before the Senate, we are making good progress in the effort to schedule a series of votes on amendments.”


What a lying cheating Gang of Thugs!

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Thu 04/18/13 07:55 AM


Priceless!
A Pout to put NK Dear Leader's to shame!

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Thu 04/18/13 08:06 AM


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A bipartisan compromise that would have expanded federal background checks for firearms purchases has been rejected by the Senate.

The defeat of the measure by a 54-46 vote — six votes shy of the number needed to clear the Senate — marks a major setback for gun-control advocates, many of whom had hoped that Congress would act to curb gun violence in the wake of December's Newtown elementary school massacre, where 20 students and six adults were killed.

The National Rifle Association fought the expansion of background checks, saying criminals would simply ignore them, The Associated Press reports.

The expanded background checks were aimed at closing loopholes and keeping criminals and the seriously mentally ill from getting firearms. Currently, the checks only apply to purchases handled by licensed firearms dealers.

In a last-ditch appeal on Wednesday, White House press secretary Jay Carney urged senators to "consider who they're representing," and pointed out that "90 percent of the American people support expanded background checks. If you are opposed to this legislation, you should obviously explain why you are against what 90 percent of the people are for."

But a recent Associated Press-GfK poll shows waning public support for tighter gun laws. According to the AP: Overall "49 percent said gun laws should be made stricter while 38 percent said they should stay the same," according to the survey of 1,004 randomly chosen adults conducted from April 11-15.

Reuters says: "Other measures backed by [President Obama] — including a proposal to ban rapid-firing 'assault' weapons like the one used in Connecticut and a limit on ammunition magazines — also are expected to fail as the Senate conducts nine consecutive votes on gun-control legislation."


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obama says he will bypass the senate if he has to... huh

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Thu 04/18/13 08:30 AM



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A bipartisan compromise that would have expanded federal background checks for firearms purchases has been rejected by the Senate.

The defeat of the measure by a 54-46 vote — six votes shy of the number needed to clear the Senate — marks a major setback for gun-control advocates, many of whom had hoped that Congress would act to curb gun violence in the wake of December's Newtown elementary school massacre, where 20 students and six adults were killed.

The National Rifle Association fought the expansion of background checks, saying criminals would simply ignore them, The Associated Press reports.

The expanded background checks were aimed at closing loopholes and keeping criminals and the seriously mentally ill from getting firearms. Currently, the checks only apply to purchases handled by licensed firearms dealers.

In a last-ditch appeal on Wednesday, White House press secretary Jay Carney urged senators to "consider who they're representing," and pointed out that "90 percent of the American people support expanded background checks. If you are opposed to this legislation, you should obviously explain why you are against what 90 percent of the people are for."

But a recent Associated Press-GfK poll shows waning public support for tighter gun laws. According to the AP: Overall "49 percent said gun laws should be made stricter while 38 percent said they should stay the same," according to the survey of 1,004 randomly chosen adults conducted from April 11-15.

Reuters says: "Other measures backed by [President Obama] — including a proposal to ban rapid-firing 'assault' weapons like the one used in Connecticut and a limit on ammunition magazines — also are expected to fail as the Senate conducts nine consecutive votes on gun-control legislation."


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obama says he will bypass the senate if he has to... huh
Hope he knows how to spell IMPEACHMENT!

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Thu 04/18/13 09:09 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 04/18/13 09:11 AM
Obama is a sore looser. I don't believe the LIE he said about 90% of the nation wanted this legislation passed.

WHEN DID WE VOTE?

He is such a liar.

They practically threatened the people who voted against it by saying "..they will pay." I would like to know what the hell they meant by that!

sore loosers.

If Obama by passes this vote, then WHAT KIND OF GOVERNMENT DO WE HAVE.

A DICTATORSHIP.!!


THEY WILL NOT TAKE OUR GUNS. A HOLES.


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Thu 04/18/13 09:48 AM
laugh To gun owners and their false sense of security laugh

live by the gun, die by the gun! Simple waving

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Thu 04/18/13 09:53 AM

laugh To gun owners and their false sense of security laugh

live by the gun, die by the gun! Simple waving
Bull!
Come for my Gun,or mess with Mine and my Family,you will Die by the Gun!
SIMPLE!!!!!!!!!

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