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Topic: How to be the jerk women love.
Mortica7's photo
Mon 04/22/13 09:53 PM
Oh my goodness,

Reading this thread is depressing, because if this is how men feel they should approach women I'm going to be single a LONG time.


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Mon 04/22/13 10:02 PM
I was just being sarcastic, m'dear :)

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Mon 04/22/13 10:11 PM
You typed it, Then she copied what you typed. Then asked "Are you as hot and bothered by this bunch?" Shouldn't she be upset at you? Whats with the bunch?

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Mon 04/22/13 10:21 PM
Just curious if this was going to turn into a "Man Hating" thread

ridewytepony's photo
Mon 04/22/13 11:13 PM

Just curious if this was going to turn into a "Man Hating" thread





Sorry buddy , had to vacate for a while , dosent seem like u needed suport.. still got that one hand tied behind ur back ? Hard txtn that way ehh..

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Mon 04/22/13 11:20 PM
Ah not too bad, The girls when on a rant about men being jerks. Funny stuff.

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Mon 04/22/13 11:36 PM







You don't have to be a jerk all the time, just at the right time.



Yes definitely!!! You need to have a bit of a "chip", swagger, " backbone" dont be a right fighter, pick the
Fights, allways strive for that 60/40 40/60 balance.
You will not hold a woman's attention long if you "roll over for them" they will find you unchallenging and
will quickly loose respect. After all there's only one thing a woman wants & that what she CAN'T have!!

& boys only play with other boys toys...... SAME THING SO RELAX ..LOL...


What it sounds like you're trying to say is men should have confidence. This is very true. However, confidence isn't being a jerk.







Not caving to her demands having that chip attitude often requires playing the jerk, so with some
Ramey,headstrong weman in my past , I've found the best defence in always a good offence ..so the point was also in there ... just got to think like a guy...this is easy stuff... lol.. does anyone no any Ramey headstrong gals, I'm singal by chance & I sure hope it wasn't something I said


Now it sounds like you're talking more about being arrogant. I can't speak for others, but an arrogant guy with that "chip attitude" who plays a jerk is definitely a turn off. Now, I'm not into guys who let people walk all over them, either. I'm all for confident men. Arrogance, though? No thanks.

I also have no idea what ramey means.



Ramey
To impose ones will on another, aggressive behavior, pushy; right out of my Vancouver Island dictionary
Derives from a big big horny sheep.....aahhaaaahaa , sorry i'm just funin ya Sis

Think big horned Ram, with head down charging ..and no I dont want any people in my life like that, cheers



Sis? Are you confused about who you're responding to?

You're saying you don't like headstrong women, but you're advocating for men to act that way. Interesting.

ridewytepony's photo
Mon 04/22/13 11:50 PM

Ah not too bad, The girls when on a rant about men being jerks. Funny stuff.




Ya I got to read most, are they having any fun? Even if its heated , lets not forget to enjoy are selves a long
The way... like if u r going to scrutinize that one word then dont forget to smell the flowers aswell, there's
Humor ...but who notices that.

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Tue 04/23/13 12:52 AM
Edited by Charles1962150 on Tue 04/23/13 01:03 AM
I haven't read this whole thread. I couldn't. It was to painful. Their has been a lot of opening mouth and inserting foot on this thread. Anyway,

There is a difference in being a man,and being a jerk. A man, He knows how to talk to a woman. He knows how to carry himself around women. He doesn't talk to her with words like,Baby,Darling and such as that on the first date or the first time he meets her. He is a gentleman with her. He actually knows how to respect her right from the start. He doesn't go out with just because he is horny and wants a piece of a$$ and any woman will do.

He pursues her not just because he is looking to put another notch in his bed post. He pursues her because he sees something greater in her besides what's between her legs.

I'm not going to go into the whole two and ten here. This is the "gist" of it. Grown women are not attracted to jerks. They may be something that they see in the jerk that they like. I can guarantee you,It isn't the jerk side of him they like.

The great majority of women are attracted to men that act and do like a man. Real men know how to treat a woman the right way. They are attracted to men who can make decisions. They are attracted to men who are not whiny. They are attracted to men that refuse to be any ones doormat. Have a back bone. They are attracted to a man they can talk to about anything. Someone they can share their feelings with. Someone who understands them. Or at least tries.Someone she can feel connected to is very important to her.

Also, They are attracted to men who have enough confidence in themselves to know they can get another woman to. Some women don't like to admit that. But, It's the truth. And I'm not talking about the cocky,arrogant type of confidence either.

I'm talking about how you carry yourself. A woman can tell by how a man carries himself that he has what it takes to get another woman. You're good to her. You treat her right. You're not the type to play around on her. You go home to her every night. No other woman interest you.She knows she can trust you with her heart.

But at the same time,You take no s.h.i.t either. She knows that as long as she loves him and treats him right he will never do her wrong. But, At the same time,She knows that if she doesn't return the love and respect he gives her,He will not hesitate to tell her not to let the door knob hit her in the a.s.s on the way out.

Women like men that act and do like a man. Not some Lilly livered,whiny door mat. If you can be the man that she feels a real connection to, Even if you are a little bit of a jerk sometimes. She will look over it. Might even refuse to see it. Because she has a heart to heart connection with you that she's never had with anyone else.

It's complicated. It's not about knowing when to be a jerk. That's not it. It's about the connection. Not just the sexual connection either.It's the mind, soul and heart connection that matters to her. You want to win a woman? Give her that. She will be yours forever. But, The hard part is,Finding the right one to give it to.

ridewytepony's photo
Tue 04/23/13 01:06 AM








You don't have to be a jerk all the time, just at the right time.



Yes definitely!!! You need to have a bit of a "chip", swagger, " backbone" dont be a right fighter, pick the
Fights, allways strive for that 60/40 40/60 balance.
You will not hold a woman's attention long if you "roll over for them" they will find you unchallenging and
will quickly loose respect. After all there's only one thing a woman wants & that what she CAN'T have!!

& boys only play with other boys toys...... SAME THING SO RELAX ..LOL...


What it sounds like you're trying to say is men should have confidence. This is very true. However, confidence isn't being a jerk.







Not caving to her demands having that chip attitude often requires playing the jerk, so with some
Ramey,headstrong weman in my past , I've found the best defence in always a good offence ..so the point was also in there ... just got to think like a guy...this is easy stuff... lol.. does anyone no any Ramey headstrong gals, I'm singal by chance & I sure hope it wasn't something I said


Now it sounds like you're talking more about being arrogant. I can't speak for others, but an arrogant guy with that "chip attitude" who plays a jerk is definitely a turn off. Now, I'm not into guys who let people walk all over them, either. I'm all for confident men. Arrogance, though? No thanks.

I also have no idea what ramey means.



Ramey
To impose ones will on another, aggressive behavior, pushy; right out of my Vancouver Island dictionary
Derives from a big big horny sheep.....aahhaaaahaa , sorry i'm just funin ya Sis

Think big horned Ram, with head down charging ..and no I dont want any people in my life like that, cheers



Sis? Are you confused about who you're responding to?

You're saying you don't like headstrong women, but you're advocating for men to act that way. Interesting.




Just funin ya sis ) ..just an expression , like Bro and what's that other one I like..oh ya "bustin her chops"
Don't make me pull out the red neck dictionary again, "Sis" ..there is that better, even got u a big S & quotations on each side, so we good now?

So I clearly said I don't want Ramey people in my life , nothing said about headstrong woman.
I would take a strong self-assured woman that knows that she wants and not afraid to go after it way before some jjfjjdjriixjjndjdn#*&#**'& ran over by the bus 5 time's n still had a rig sticking out of her neck
anyday!!... oh come on lighten up or i'll keep bustin ur chops.
U no what I bet , every woman here said they have a great sense of humor on their profile and their fun
& playful

ridewytepony's photo
Tue 04/23/13 01:24 AM








You don't have to be a jerk all the time, just at the right time.



Yes definitely!!! You need to have a bit of a "chip", swagger, " backbone" dont be a right fighter, pick the
Fights, allways strive for that 60/40 40/60 balance.
You will not hold a woman's attention long if you "roll over for them" they will find you unchallenging and
will quickly loose respect. After all there's only one thing a woman wants & that what she CAN'T have!!

& boys only play with other boys toys...... SAME THING SO RELAX ..LOL...


What it sounds like you're trying to say is men should have confidence. This is very true. However, confidence isn't being a jerk.







Not caving to her demands having that chip attitude often requires playing the jerk, so with some
Ramey,headstrong weman in my past , I've found the best defence in always a good offence ..so the point was also in there ... just got to think like a guy...this is easy stuff... lol.. does anyone no any Ramey headstrong gals, I'm singal by chance & I sure hope it wasn't something I said


Now it sounds like you're talking more about being arrogant. I can't speak for others, but an arrogant guy with that "chip attitude" who plays a jerk is definitely a turn off. Now, I'm not into guys who let people walk all over them, either. I'm all for confident men. Arrogance, though? No thanks.

I also have no idea what ramey means.



Ramey
To impose ones will on another, aggressive behavior, pushy; right out of my Vancouver Island dictionary
Derives from a big big horny sheep.....aahhaaaahaa , sorry i'm just funin ya Sis

Think big horned Ram, with head down charging ..and no I dont want any people in my life like that, cheers



Sis? Are you confused about who you're responding to?

You're saying you don't like headstrong women, but you're advocating for men to act that way. Interesting.




Just funin ya sis ) ..just an expression , like Bro and what's that other one I like..oh ya "bustin her chops"
Don't make me pull out the red neck dictionary again, "Sis" ..there is that better, even got u a big S & quotations on each side, so we good now?

So I clearly said I don't want Ramey people in my life , nothing said about headstrong woman.
I would take a strong self-assured woman that knows that she wants and not afraid to go after it way before some jjfjjdjriixjjndjdn#*&#**'& ran over by the bus 5 time's n still had a rig sticking out of her neck
anyday!!... oh come on lighten up or i'll keep bustin ur chops.
U no what I bet , every woman here said they have a great sense of humor on their profile and their fun
& playfull... am I right.. because I'm not feeling that from some! have a good debate but dont forget to
Enjoy some

ridewytepony's photo
Tue 04/23/13 02:36 AM
@singmesweet Re: advocating for men,

All I was talking about is having a give in take relationship, to a 50/50 balance and in this scenario, described and methods I may use are person specific, & is certainly not a rule of thumd for any of my
Relationships nor in anyway suggested for any other man beast or logger.
I would ask u in future if your going to guote me please guote me acutely.
Also you mite want to look at some more positive things to say like mabee
There's somthing funny to comment on opposed to surmising and/or splitting
hairs. Lets all take the higher road in futre.

dmckinnon's photo
Tue 04/23/13 02:43 AM

Just curious if this was going to turn into a "Man Hating" thread


Don't they all?

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Tue 04/23/13 04:16 AM
Edited by dmckinnon on Tue 04/23/13 04:21 AM
I never would have bought this statement before, but now after all the relationships I've had I can see that it's probably true. I have been decent, loving and attentive with all the women in my life, and yet this did not make any difference. Obviously giving women what they claim they want doesn't work, so I'm thinking the OP is on to something. Holding things back and not giving of myself so freely—even if it means being a bit of jerk in the process—might not be a bad idea.

ridewytepony's photo
Tue 04/23/13 05:29 AM

I never would have bought this statement before, but now after all the relationships I've had I can see that it's probably true. I have been decent, loving and attentive with all the women in my life, and yet this did not make any difference. Obviously giving women what they claim they want doesn't work, so I'm thinking the OP is on to something. Holding things back and not giving of myself so freely—even if it means being a bit of jerk in the process—might not be a bad idea.


Thats Excellent news, a real breakthrough! ! Good for u! Now youred talked the talk
Its time to walk the walk. Fake it to u make it man,
Goodbye to nice guy

ViaMusica's photo
Tue 04/23/13 07:00 AM
Edited by ViaMusica on Tue 04/23/13 07:04 AM
Sorry, but most of us DO want a nice guy. If a guy acts like a jerk to a woman and she complains about it, then he's going to complain about that... and possibly never realize he brought it on himself.

Guys, just BE YOURSELVES. If you're naturally a jerk, we want to know that as soon as possible so we can avoid you. If you're naturally a nice guy, don't pretend to be a jerk and then wonder why you can't get a good woman.

And if you only want the kind of dysfunctional relationship that comes from one or both parties playing headgames, please do us all a favor and don't inflict yourselves on women, becaause YOU are the problem that gives men a bad name. So for the sake of your better brothers, please stop. Just because you can't get where you want to be with women, that doesn't mean you need to ruin it for the rest of the guys.

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Tue 04/23/13 07:02 AM

I haven't read this whole thread. I couldn't. It was to painful. Their has been a lot of opening mouth and inserting foot on this thread. Anyway,

There is a difference in being a man,and being a jerk. A man, He knows how to talk to a woman. He knows how to carry himself around women. He doesn't talk to her with words like,Baby,Darling and such as that on the first date or the first time he meets her. He is a gentleman with her. He actually knows how to respect her right from the start. He doesn't go out with just because he is horny and wants a piece of a$$ and any woman will do.

He pursues her not just because he is looking to put another notch in his bed post. He pursues her because he sees something greater in her besides what's between her legs.

I'm not going to go into the whole two and ten here. This is the "gist" of it. Grown women are not attracted to jerks. They may be something that they see in the jerk that they like. I can guarantee you,It isn't the jerk side of him they like.

The great majority of women are attracted to men that act and do like a man. Real men know how to treat a woman the right way. They are attracted to men who can make decisions. They are attracted to men who are not whiny. They are attracted to men that refuse to be any ones doormat. Have a back bone. They are attracted to a man they can talk to about anything. Someone they can share their feelings with. Someone who understands them. Or at least tries.Someone she can feel connected to is very important to her.

Also, They are attracted to men who have enough confidence in themselves to know they can get another woman to. Some women don't like to admit that. But, It's the truth. And I'm not talking about the cocky,arrogant type of confidence either.

I'm talking about how you carry yourself. A woman can tell by how a man carries himself that he has what it takes to get another woman. You're good to her. You treat her right. You're not the type to play around on her. You go home to her every night. No other woman interest you.She knows she can trust you with her heart.

But at the same time,You take no s.h.i.t either. She knows that as long as she loves him and treats him right he will never do her wrong. But, At the same time,She knows that if she doesn't return the love and respect he gives her,He will not hesitate to tell her not to let the door knob hit her in the a.s.s on the way out.

Women like men that act and do like a man. Not some Lilly livered,whiny door mat. If you can be the man that she feels a real connection to, Even if you are a little bit of a jerk sometimes. She will look over it. Might even refuse to see it. Because she has a heart to heart connection with you that she's never had with anyone else.

It's complicated. It's not about knowing when to be a jerk. That's not it. It's about the connection. Not just the sexual connection either.It's the mind, soul and heart connection that matters to her. You want to win a woman? Give her that. She will be yours forever. But, The hard part is,Finding the right one to give it to.


thank you. he gets it - this thread can end now/

oh, and I hope you find the right one

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Tue 04/23/13 07:04 AM





I'm thinking some guys just aren't entirely comfortable in the 21st century. And there are those who've barely made it into the 20th.


and there are those who have NO PHOTO who are quite brave from behind a computer

Like you, with a photo of a tree?


ah young careless one. you must be new

young dumm and too quick to come is it? lol

I don't know about all that. However I do know, If you're not showing your face. It could be several reasons like.. You don't like your appearance, or your married etc..



again showing how little you know

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 04/23/13 07:59 AM
something like him?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANph32LoXR4

Steve Martin:The Jerk (1979) Trailer

:laughing: rofl

TawtStrat's photo
Tue 04/23/13 08:18 AM
Edited by TawtStrat on Tue 04/23/13 08:20 AM

Sorry, but most of us DO want a nice guy. If a guy acts like a jerk to a woman and she complains about it, then he's going to complain about that... and possibly never realize he brought it on himself.

Guys, just BE YOURSELVES. If you're naturally a jerk, we want to know that as soon as possible so we can avoid you. If you're naturally a nice guy, don't pretend to be a jerk and then wonder why you can't get a good woman.

And if you only want the kind of dysfunctional relationship that comes from one or both parties playing headgames, please do us all a favor and don't inflict yourselves on women, becaause YOU are the problem that gives men a bad name. So for the sake of your better brothers, please stop. Just because you can't get where you want to be with women, that doesn't mean you need to ruin it for the rest of the guys.


That doesn't really make any sense. What these guys here are saying is that just being a nice guy doesn't work and not just being a nice guy does.

Why do you always fall back on the "you men are just bitter" argument?

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