I don't generally do cut and paste posts here but I think this warrants an exception. Unfortunately most will not get the message until we are attacked again with more devestating results. Then those that did nothing will be the ones to shout the loudest "Why didn't someone do something?"

When WWIII Started****1979

This is not very long, but very informative You have to read the catalogue of events in this brief piece. Then, ask yourself how anyone can take the position that all we have to do is bring our troops home from Iraq, sit back, reset the snooze alarm, go back to sleep, and no one will ever bother us again. In case you missed it, World War III began in November 1979... that alarm has been ringing for years

US Navy Captain Ouimette is the Executive Officer at Naval Air Station, Pensacola, Florida. Here is a copy of the speech he gave last month It is an accurate account of why we are in so much trouble today and why this action is so necessary.

AMERICA NEEDS TO WAKE UP!

That's what we think we heard on the 11th of September 2001
(When more than 3,000 Americans were killed -AD) and maybe it was, but I think it should have been "Get Out of Bed!" In fact, I think the alarm clock has been buzzing since 1979 and we have continued to hit the snooze button and roll over for a few more minutes of peaceful sleep since then.

It was a cool fall day in November 1979 in a country going
through a religious and political upheaval when a group of Iranian students attacked and seized the American Embassy in Tehran. This seizure was an outright attack on American soil; it was an attack that held the world's most powerful country hostage and paralyzed a Presidency. The attack on this sovereign U. S. embassy set the stage for events to follow
for the next 25 years.

America was still reeling from the aftermath of the Vietnam
experience and had a serious threat from the Soviet Union when then, President Carter, had to do something. He chose to conduct a clandestine raid in the desert. The ill-fated mission ended in ruin, but stood as a symbol of America's inability to deal with terrorism.

America's military had been decimated and down sized/right
sized since the end of the Vietnam War. A poorly trained, poorly equipped and poorly organized military was called on to execute a complex mission that was doomed from the start.

Shortly after the Tehran experience, Americans began to be
kidnapped and killed throughout the Middle East. America could do little to protect her citizens living and working abroad The attacks against US soil continued!

In April of 1983 a large vehicle packed with high explosives
was driven into the US Embassy compound in Beirut. When it explodes, it kills 63 people. The alarm went off again and America hit the Snooze Button once more.

Then just six short months later in 1983 a large truck heavily laden down with over 2500 pounds of TNT smashed through the main gate of the US Marine Corps headquarters in Beirut and 241 US servicemen are killed. America mourns her dead and hit the Snooze Button once more.

Two months later in December 1983, another truck loaded with
explosives is driven into the US Embassy in Kuwait, and America continues her slumber.

The following year, in September 1984, another van was driven
into the gate of the US Embassy in Beirut and America slept.

Soon the terrorism spreads to Europe. In April 1985 a bomb
explodes in a restaurant frequented by US soldiers in Madrid.

Then in August 1985 a Volkswagen loaded with explosives is
driven into the main gate of the US Air Force Base at Rhein-Main, 22 are killed and the snooze alarm is buzzing louder and louder as US interests are continually attacked.

Fifty-nine days later in 1985 a cruise ship, the Achille Lauro is hijacked and we watched as an American in a wheelchair is singled out of the passenger list and executed.

The terrorists then shift their tactics to bombing civilian
airliners when they bomb TWA Flight 840 in April of 1986 that killed 4 and the most tragic bombing, Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland in 1988, killing 259.

Clinton treated these terrorist acts as crimes; in fact we are still trying to bring these people to trial. These are acts of war

The wake up alarm is getting louder and louder.

The terrorists decide to bring the fight to America. In January 1993, two CIA agents are shot and killed as they enter CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia.

The following month, February 1993, a group of terrorists are
arrested after a rented van packed with explosives is driven into the underground parking garage of the World Trade Center in New York City. Six people are killed and over 1000 are injured. Still, this is a crime and not an act of war? The Snooze alarm is depressed again.

Then in November 1995 a car bomb explodes at a US military
complex in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia killing seven service men and women.

A few months later in June of 1996, another truck bomb explodes only 35 yards from the US military compound in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia. It destroys the Khobar Towers, a US Air Force barracks, killing 19 and injuring over 500. The terrorists are getting braver and smarter as they
see that America does not respond decisively.

They move to coordinate their attacks in a simultaneous attack on two US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. These attacks were planned with precision. They kill 224. America responds with cruise missile attacks and goes back to sleep.

The USS Cole was docked in the port of Aden, Yemen for
refueling on 12 October 2000, when a small craft pulled along side the ship and exploded killing 17 US Navy Sailors. Attacking a US War Ship is an act of war, but we sent the FBI to investigate the crime and went back to sleep.

And of course you know the events of 11 September 2001. Most
Americans think this was the first attack against US soil or in America. How wrong they are. America has been under a constant attack since 1979 and we chose to hit the snooze alarm and roll over and go back to sleep!!!

In the news lately we have seen lots of finger pointing from
every high official in government over what they knew and what they didn't know. But if you've read the papers and paid a little attention I think you can see exactly what they knew. You don't have t o be in the FBI or CIA or on the National Security Council to see the pattern that has been
developing since 1979.

3861 Killed scores injured

I think we have been in a war for the past 25 years and it will continue until we as a people decide enough is enough! America needs to "Get out of Bed" and act decisively now. America has been changed forever. We have to be ready to pay the price and make the sacrifice to ensure our way of life continues. We cannot afford to keep hitting the snooze button
again and again and roll over and go back to sleep.

After the attack on Pearl Harbor, Admiral Yamamoto said "... it seems all we have done is awakened a sleeping giant." This is the message we need to disseminate to terrorists around the world.

This is not a political thing to be hashed over in an election year this is an AMERICAN thing. This is about our Freedom and the Freedom of our children in years to come.

Thankyou for posting this...
Yes Americians need to wake up!

the real question is

when did ww2 end

never

it just changed tactics

and were losing

why do americans need to wake up???? it doesnt affect me, i am on my own trying to keep food on my table and roof over my head, and protect the children, my vote doesnt count anymore so why do it and why not worry about my own city!!!! john q. public

well that is what the 1930 german said

i still wanna invade canada and take their wimmums

Forge:

You listed several attacks that happened during the 80s.

Yet you say Clinton treated them as crimes, not acts of war.

Excuse me, but wasn't Reagan President then?

What did Ronnie do?

Why must people like you blame every thing that happened during our lifetimes on Clinton?

If you want to dispute this, maybe you should re-read your post.

Feel free to blame things that happened on Clinton's watch on Clinton. But, if you do that, you'd have to blame those 80s attacks on Reagan, and 9/11 on Bush.

Forge, you simply can't have it both ways.

the question isn't really when but why......now scratch your head...

Now 'forge',

Knowing your ruthless stand for facts when others are involved, I trust more more is coming on this topic. More facts that is!!! Facts that would help everyone balance out the retaliation ping-pong game of attacks!!!

Surely, you're working on the acts and attacks the US have directly or indirectly participated in against each of those other countries involved in your chronological list.

I know you're working on these US attacks and interfering action in the affairs of these other nations, because you wouldn't want to leave people with the impression that the US nation is a poor victim of RANDOM, senseless and undeserved acts of violence simply because others are jealous of the US way of life!!!

So if you don't mind, I'll wait for the rest of your comprehensive (I'm sure) research and fact list before responding here.

WW3 has not started yet. I disagree that the cold war was the start of WW3 and I disagree that Iran takeover by the fanatics was the start of WW3.

I do agree that Iran was mismanaged by Carter, but then he had other things on his mind, including Salt talks with Russia.

Didn't somebody once say that whatever weapons WW3 is fought with WW4 would be fought with stones and spears? Well we didn't get to that point.

Regional conflicts and terrorist acts are not world wars.

"the real question is

when did ww2 end

never

it just changed tactics

and were losing "

/applaud

Hitlers Muslim allies were allowed to return to the Middle East unmolested. They have spent the past 50+ years rearming, training and preparing to carry out Mohammad's goal of world domination and the eradication of the Jews. When Bill Clinton said "I feel your pain", people actually took him seriously. When Islamists say "We will destroy America, kill the Jews and Islam will rule the world", it's excused, ignored or laughed off. Unbelievable.

"Feel free to blame things that happened on Clinton's watch on Clinton. But, if you do that, you'd have to blame those 80s attacks on Reagan, and 9/11 on Bush. "

You are right, Reagan should have reacted. I guess we can give Reagan a little slack, because the world didn't understand the enemy we faced at the time. But you can't blame 9/11 on Bush. Gardenforge wasn't blaming the attacks on Carter/Clinton, he was accusing them of not responding appropriately. Bush has responded, I think appropriately, but the history books will eventually make that call.

Knox nowhere in that post does it try to place any blame on Bill Clinton. The post lists all the terror acts that have happened since 1979 and one paragraph states "Clinton treated these terrorist acts as crimes; in fact we are still trying to bring these people to trial. These are acts of war"

voileazur your socialistic anti American stance is well known. Everything in the world is our fault. According to you we apoligize to the world, roll over on our backs like a cocker spaniel puppy and become the dormat for the world. Then we could live in the socialistic eutopia that exists only in your imaginatiion.

The fact is everything listed there has happened and we have done little or nothing about it. The other fact is that if we continue to do nothing it will get worse not better. My suggestion is learn Farsi that way you can communicate better with your new masters. Also expect to live a short miserable life on your knees that can be ended at the whim of your masters.

Hello Gardenforge and ALl,

I agree with Gardenforge, again. I am on the side of freedom and support all who are responsible for it...

I am AMERICAN.

Take a few minutes and listen intently...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBflQLa75C8

If you don't - it's your loss.

And to those who want to place blame for every world occurrance - get a clue.

For every action, there is a re-action.
(It is human nature.)

As AMERICANS (and as beings on this planet) we have a RIGHT to re-act.

Thanks Garden!

Verb

9/11 the big picture....
we lost three buildings and a field. i wouldent call that a war on our soil. wait till whole cities dissolve and get back to me.

.... of course instead of waiting for our cities to dissolve, Bush took the fight to thier doorstep. whats the smarter play here? waiting? dont think so.

What no Fantanomics today??

Hey, Einstein (yeah, you gardenforge) - WE invaded THEM in 1953
when we assasinated Iran's DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED leader, because
he wanted to nationalise Iranian oil. We put the shah in his place.
What did you THINK would happen?

Forge:

You never answered my question. Your opening posts puts the responsibility of several 80s attacks squarely at the feet of Bill Clinton. How? And mainly, you never stated what Reagan did about them, considering they happened during his watch. Don't forget, there was another administration sandwitched between Reagan and Clinton.

Spidercmb:

I wasn't blaming 9/11 on Bush. I merely stated if people are going to blame a sitting president for something that happens during his term, you can't be selective with it. The 9/11 analogy was more of an example of the point I was making, that being, you can't have it both ways.

I'm really glad you are such an expert on Iran CBX, so you can put us all straight. Whatever you like to say about The Shah being a US puppet, he supported the US while he was in power. The US in turn supported his government. His government was much better than the one that followed it. Did you happen to know the previous leader personally so you can tell us something about how he was superior to the shah? Because I'm thinking, maybe you just like to shout out loud that the US is evil. And what do you THINK would happen if you supported the governments that supported your own government?