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"So maybe he touched the children. It's Michael Jackson! Michael Jackson!!!" -South Park lol, ur so silly,,, |
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"it has one,, someone got away with hunting down and murdering a child,,, not nearly as heinous but jury was just as capable this week of getting it wrong as they were then,,,," George Zimmerman didn't "hunt down and murder" Treyvon Martin. Have you even been paying attention to the details of Zimmerman's self defense and the testimony tapes? Treyvon Martin was not an innocent little angel in this. He attacked George Zimmerman while he was on his way back to his car to wait for the police and beat him down to the point where George Zimmerman had that reasonable fear of imminent bodily harm or death and shot Treyvon Martin in self defense. Treyvon Martin is not alive to tell his side of the story so you have to go based on George Zimmerman's testimony as well as other witnesses and the evidence which by the way supports George Zimmerman's self defense. People keep trying to paint George Zimmerman as this evil murderer when the facts do not support it.  Amen I wonder if Martin were white would the black community even care??? Treyvon jumped him....he had other choices that he did not use. dude jumps me I'll do him some serious harm if I have to in order to save my self - don;t care what color he is...and if he's black and the naacp and the local baptist church go all racist on me...I would have to say w/e - it weren;t ur life on the line - dude's not innocent just cuz he's black and I aint sure as shootin' there's a bucket load of reverse racism in this protest of the trial likewise, if dude follows me around in the dark in his car and THEN ON FOOT< and grabs me,,, Im gonna try to do him harm too until recently it would be my right,, but now,, so long as he is a coward who screams when I fight back, ,he will have the right to kill me,,,, dudes not innocent because he is black, he is innocent because the testimony and evidence don't back up Zs bs story,,,,, George Zimmerman didn't grab Treyvon Martin.  Stick to the facts of the case and not wild speculation. Otherwise you will look like a fool. If you have 0 evidence to support a theory then why speculate? I can just as easily try to pass opinions/theories off as facts but that doesn't make them any more true. No one will Know exactly what happened that night other than George Zimmerman. The evidence factually supports George Zimmerman's self defense case. There is little to no evidence to suggest that Treyvon Martin was assaulted. Yet people will continue trying to wrongly claim that George Zimmerman is this evil racist murderer. Get over your hurt feelings people and take a hard look at the facts of the case as well as Florida's laws at the time and understand them. u don't believe he grabbed treyvon,, perhaps you believe this kid came to the neighborhood , went out his way to get rid of a stranger tailing him at night and then after being SUCCESSFUL decided to get in a fight instead but , his phone witness heard him saying get off me, zs own witness saw them tussling UPRIGHT before he saw them horizontal I believe this indicates ZImmerman grabbed him trying to detain him,,as he has grabbed others in impulsive reaction before,,, and the evidence also suggests Zimmerman suffered a whopping fractured nose and two scratche son his head, from this 'thugs' brutal attack,,, but , everyone will take the parts of that trial that they choose to to form their conclusion,,,no skin off my nose,,, |
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lol,, ok I just hope you are never in a situation where someone follows you,, (First in a car and then on foot) while you are walking alone at night,,,let alone has the gall to question YOu about your behavior before attempting to grab you,,,, if treyvon had killed Zimmerman, he could have gotten off with self defense too as long as z still got a shot off after all, who WOULDNT fight an armed stalker who had confronted him? then his 'being on top' would be irrelevant, and proving beyond a doubt what initiated the fight would be all about whatever treyvon claimed,,,,, which would align with the evidence of z himself admitting to following him , being heard calling him a fing punk , and being irritated that he might get away, and then having a BULLET HOLE in martin,,, Im sure the evidence could easily back up treyvon when he said he was fighting in 'self defense',,,,, He did have a functioning Cellphone after al! why didn't the grown man and watch 'captain' follow someone at night...? both against neighborhood watch policy and instructed by police not to perhaps the boy didnt think anyone would respond to someone 'following' him as illegal or an emergency,,,,apparently he was right,,,, this so called boy has a has filled with violence and drugs if he would have been charged had the police shown up in time to stop martins attack he would have been on trial as an adult if martain would no have wanted to be confrontational and just went were he was going none of his would have happened zimmerman had more drugs in his system the trayvon... lol,,,so true,, and drugs that have side affects that could make him anxious,,,,,but they were 'legal', so I guess they don't matter,,, If he had any "mind altering" chemicals in his system, legal or not, Zimmerman's conceal carry permit becomes null and void, which would have lost him this case. What are the substances your are speaking of? (If you don't mind my asking...) glucosamine, omeprazole, temazapam read the medical report from HIS doctors office the week of the fight ,,here: http://media.miamiherald.com/smedia/2012/07/03/15/01/2uxIe.So.56.pdf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glucosamine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omeprazole http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temazepam Nothing unusual! Now lets look at Martin's Toxicology-Report http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebu6Yvzs4Ls&feature=youtu.be now look up LEAN http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=lean lol, that's not a toxicology report, that's an autopsy,, yellow discoloration also comes from drinking and smoking weed zimmermans best friend admitted he had been a heavy drinker when he was younger as well,,, show where there was any robitussin in this boys system,, because an acquaintance/friend mentions it doesn't mean its what Treyvon was doing,,,, and none of that would be relevant to Zimmermans actions as an ADULT that night against this minor,,,, |
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Now, show us, if you can, the court document stating Zimbob was intoxicated. MR Z entered a plea of not guilty by reason of self defense. Show us where, when he was found not guilty, the judge or jury changed the conditions of his plea. |
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Edited by
Conrad_73
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Wed 07/24/13 08:02 AM
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lol,, ok I just hope you are never in a situation where someone follows you,, (First in a car and then on foot) while you are walking alone at night,,,let alone has the gall to question YOu about your behavior before attempting to grab you,,,, if treyvon had killed Zimmerman, he could have gotten off with self defense too as long as z still got a shot off after all, who WOULDNT fight an armed stalker who had confronted him? then his 'being on top' would be irrelevant, and proving beyond a doubt what initiated the fight would be all about whatever treyvon claimed,,,,, which would align with the evidence of z himself admitting to following him , being heard calling him a fing punk , and being irritated that he might get away, and then having a BULLET HOLE in martin,,, Im sure the evidence could easily back up treyvon when he said he was fighting in 'self defense',,,,, He did have a functioning Cellphone after al! why didn't the grown man and watch 'captain' follow someone at night...? both against neighborhood watch policy and instructed by police not to perhaps the boy didnt think anyone would respond to someone 'following' him as illegal or an emergency,,,,apparently he was right,,,, this so called boy has a has filled with violence and drugs if he would have been charged had the police shown up in time to stop martins attack he would have been on trial as an adult if martain would no have wanted to be confrontational and just went were he was going none of his would have happened zimmerman had more drugs in his system the trayvon... lol,,,so true,, and drugs that have side affects that could make him anxious,,,,,but they were 'legal', so I guess they don't matter,,, If he had any "mind altering" chemicals in his system, legal or not, Zimmerman's conceal carry permit becomes null and void, which would have lost him this case. What are the substances your are speaking of? (If you don't mind my asking...) glucosamine, omeprazole, temazapam read the medical report from HIS doctors office the week of the fight ,,here: http://media.miamiherald.com/smedia/2012/07/03/15/01/2uxIe.So.56.pdf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glucosamine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omeprazole http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temazepam Nothing unusual! Now lets look at Martin's Toxicology-Report http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebu6Yvzs4Ls&feature=youtu.be now look up LEAN http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=lean lol, that's not a toxicology report, that's an autopsy,, yellow discoloration also comes from drinking and smoking weed zimmermans best friend admitted he had been a heavy drinker when he was younger as well,,, show where there was any robitussin in this boys system,, because an acquaintance/friend mentions it doesn't mean its what Treyvon was doing,,,, and none of that would be relevant to Zimmermans actions as an ADULT that night against this minor,,,, http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/07/22/why-did-trayvon-martins-funeral-director-lie-more-lies-and-agendas-exposed/ |
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"it has one,, someone got away with hunting down and murdering a child,,, not nearly as heinous but jury was just as capable this week of getting it wrong as they were then,,,," George Zimmerman didn't "hunt down and murder" Treyvon Martin. Have you even been paying attention to the details of Zimmerman's self defense and the testimony tapes? Treyvon Martin was not an innocent little angel in this. He attacked George Zimmerman while he was on his way back to his car to wait for the police and beat him down to the point where George Zimmerman had that reasonable fear of imminent bodily harm or death and shot Treyvon Martin in self defense. Treyvon Martin is not alive to tell his side of the story so you have to go based on George Zimmerman's testimony as well as other witnesses and the evidence which by the way supports George Zimmerman's self defense. People keep trying to paint George Zimmerman as this evil murderer when the facts do not support it. Amen I wonder if Martin were white would the black community even care??? Treyvon jumped him....he had other choices that he did not use. dude jumps me I'll do him some serious harm if I have to in order to save my self - don;t care what color he is...and if he's black and the naacp and the local baptist church go all racist on me...I would have to say w/e - it weren;t ur life on the line - dude's not innocent just cuz he's black and I aint sure as shootin' there's a bucket load of reverse racism in this protest of the trial likewise, if dude follows me around in the dark in his car and THEN ON FOOT< and grabs me,,, Im gonna try to do him harm too until recently it would be my right,, but now,, so long as he is a coward who screams when I fight back, ,he will have the right to kill me,,,, dudes not innocent because he is black, he is innocent because the testimony and evidence don't back up Zs bs story,,,,, George Zimmerman didn't grab Treyvon Martin. Stick to the facts of the case and not wild speculation. Otherwise you will look like a fool. If you have 0 evidence to support a theory then why speculate? I can just as easily try to pass opinions/theories off as facts but that doesn't make them any more true. No one will Know exactly what happened that night other than George Zimmerman. The evidence factually supports George Zimmerman's self defense case. There is little to no evidence to suggest that Treyvon Martin was assaulted. Yet people will continue trying to wrongly claim that George Zimmerman is this evil racist murderer. Get over your hurt feelings people and take a hard look at the facts of the case as well as Florida's laws at the time and understand them. u don't believe he grabbed treyvon,, perhaps you believe this kid came to the neighborhood , went out his way to get rid of a stranger tailing him at night and then after being SUCCESSFUL decided to get in a fight instead but , his phone witness heard him saying get off me, zs own witness saw them tussling UPRIGHT before he saw them horizontal I believe this indicates ZImmerman grabbed him trying to detain him,,as he has grabbed others in impulsive reaction before,,, and the evidence also suggests Zimmerman suffered a whopping fractured nose and two scratche son his head, from this 'thugs' brutal attack,,, but , everyone will take the parts of that trial that they choose to to form their conclusion,,,no skin off my nose,,, Treyvon Martin did decide to confront George Zimmerman. George Zimmerman did not grab Treyvon Martin. There would have been evidence of it. Marks and/or bruising. Treyvon Martin didn't have any marks or injuries on him other than on his knuckles. Where is the evidence that George Zimmerman ever grabbed anyone else? Are you pulling that out of Wonderland as well? As for Rachel Jeantel. (Not sure if it's spelled correctly) She's been caught in lies trying to help the prosecution's case. Therefore voiding her credibility. You mean people like you will take parts of the trial and ignore the rest of the facts and laws to fit your own agenda. |
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Now, show us, if you can, the court document stating Zimbob was intoxicated. MR Z entered a plea of not guilty by reason of self defense. Show us where, when he was found not guilty, the judge or jury changed the conditions of his plea. Still waiting! 
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Edited by
Drivinmenutz
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Wed 07/24/13 11:22 AM
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lol,, ok I just hope you are never in a situation where someone follows you,, (First in a car and then on foot) while you are walking alone at night,,,let alone has the gall to question YOu about your behavior before attempting to grab you,,,, if treyvon had killed Zimmerman, he could have gotten off with self defense too as long as z still got a shot off after all, who WOULDNT fight an armed stalker who had confronted him? then his 'being on top' would be irrelevant, and proving beyond a doubt what initiated the fight would be all about whatever treyvon claimed,,,,, which would align with the evidence of z himself admitting to following him , being heard calling him a fing punk , and being irritated that he might get away, and then having a BULLET HOLE in martin,,, Im sure the evidence could easily back up treyvon when he said he was fighting in 'self defense',,,,, He did have a functioning Cellphone after al! why didn't the grown man and watch 'captain' follow someone at night...? both against neighborhood watch policy and instructed by police not to perhaps the boy didnt think anyone would respond to someone 'following' him as illegal or an emergency,,,,apparently he was right,,,, this so called boy has a has filled with violence and drugs if he would have been charged had the police shown up in time to stop martins attack he would have been on trial as an adult if martain would no have wanted to be confrontational and just went were he was going none of his would have happened zimmerman had more drugs in his system the trayvon... lol,,,so true,, and drugs that have side affects that could make him anxious,,,,,but they were 'legal', so I guess they don't matter,,, If he had any "mind altering" chemicals in his system, legal or not, Zimmerman's conceal carry permit becomes null and void, which would have lost him this case. What are the substances your are speaking of? (If you don't mind my asking...) glucosamine, omeprazole, temazapam read the medical report from HIS doctors office the week of the fight ,,here: http://media.miamiherald.com/smedia/2012/07/03/15/01/2uxIe.So.56.pdf Glucosamine is a dietary supplement given for joint health, omeprazole, off the top of my head, is a "proton pump inhibitor", meaning it reduces stomach acid. Neither of these are of any concern. Temazepam is a benzodiazepine commonly used for insomnia (similar to Valium). Benzo's are, in fact, a mind altering substance. It shouldn't cause anxiety. It would cause drowsiness though. Admittedly maybe even some disorientation. I will have to look up the half-life of this drug as i can't remember off the top of my head as this is a medication you are supposed to take right before bed. If Z had enough in his system, I believe that would discredit his concealed carry permit... Thanks for the update, i will have to read the report. |
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"So maybe he touched the children. It's Michael Jackson! Michael Jackson!!!" -South Park lol, ur so silly,,, Glad I made someone laugh in this thread. That gag from that South Park episode cracked me up. Especially the way the guy said it. |
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Edited by
Conrad_73
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Wed 07/24/13 11:27 AM
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lol,, ok I just hope you are never in a situation where someone follows you,, (First in a car and then on foot) while you are walking alone at night,,,let alone has the gall to question YOu about your behavior before attempting to grab you,,,, if treyvon had killed Zimmerman, he could have gotten off with self defense too as long as z still got a shot off after all, who WOULDNT fight an armed stalker who had confronted him? then his 'being on top' would be irrelevant, and proving beyond a doubt what initiated the fight would be all about whatever treyvon claimed,,,,, which would align with the evidence of z himself admitting to following him , being heard calling him a fing punk , and being irritated that he might get away, and then having a BULLET HOLE in martin,,, Im sure the evidence could easily back up treyvon when he said he was fighting in 'self defense',,,,, He did have a functioning Cellphone after al! why didn't the grown man and watch 'captain' follow someone at night...? both against neighborhood watch policy and instructed by police not to perhaps the boy didnt think anyone would respond to someone 'following' him as illegal or an emergency,,,,apparently he was right,,,, this so called boy has a has filled with violence and drugs if he would have been charged had the police shown up in time to stop martins attack he would have been on trial as an adult if martain would no have wanted to be confrontational and just went were he was going none of his would have happened zimmerman had more drugs in his system the trayvon... lol,,,so true,, and drugs that have side affects that could make him anxious,,,,,but they were 'legal', so I guess they don't matter,,, If he had any "mind altering" chemicals in his system, legal or not, Zimmerman's conceal carry permit becomes null and void, which would have lost him this case. What are the substances your are speaking of? (If you don't mind my asking...) glucosamine, omeprazole, temazapam read the medical report from HIS doctors office the week of the fight ,,here: http://media.miamiherald.com/smedia/2012/07/03/15/01/2uxIe.So.56.pdf Glucosamine is a dietary supplement given for joint health, omeprazole, off the top of my head, is a "proton pump inhibitor", meaning it reduces stomach acid. Neither of these are of any concern. Temazepam is a benzodiazepine commonly used for insomnia (similar to Valium). Benzo's are, in fact, a mind altering substance. It shouldn't cause anxiety. It would cause drowsiness though. Admittedly maybe even some disorientation. I will have to look up the half-life of this drug as i can't remember off the top of my head. If Z had enough in his system, I believe that would discredit his concealed carry permit... Thanks for the update, i will have to read the report. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temazepam Temazepam (brand names Restoril - 15 mg/30 mg and Normison, among others) is an intermediate-acting 3-hydroxy hypnotic of the benzodiazepine class of psychoactive drugs. Temazepam is approved for the short-term treatment of insomnia. In addition, temazepam has anxiolytic (anti-anxiety), anticonvulsant, and skeletal muscle relaxant properties.[1][2][3] Pharmacokinetic data Bioavailability 96% Metabolism Hepatic Half-life 8–20 hours Excretion Renal |
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lol,, ok I just hope you are never in a situation where someone follows you,, (First in a car and then on foot) while you are walking alone at night,,,let alone has the gall to question YOu about your behavior before attempting to grab you,,,, if treyvon had killed Zimmerman, he could have gotten off with self defense too as long as z still got a shot off after all, who WOULDNT fight an armed stalker who had confronted him? then his 'being on top' would be irrelevant, and proving beyond a doubt what initiated the fight would be all about whatever treyvon claimed,,,,, which would align with the evidence of z himself admitting to following him , being heard calling him a fing punk , and being irritated that he might get away, and then having a BULLET HOLE in martin,,, Im sure the evidence could easily back up treyvon when he said he was fighting in 'self defense',,,,, He did have a functioning Cellphone after al! why didn't the grown man and watch 'captain' follow someone at night...? both against neighborhood watch policy and instructed by police not to perhaps the boy didnt think anyone would respond to someone 'following' him as illegal or an emergency,,,,apparently he was right,,,, this so called boy has a has filled with violence and drugs if he would have been charged had the police shown up in time to stop martins attack he would have been on trial as an adult if martain would no have wanted to be confrontational and just went were he was going none of his would have happened zimmerman had more drugs in his system the trayvon... lol,,,so true,, and drugs that have side affects that could make him anxious,,,,,but they were 'legal', so I guess they don't matter,,, If he had any "mind altering" chemicals in his system, legal or not, Zimmerman's conceal carry permit becomes null and void, which would have lost him this case. What are the substances your are speaking of? (If you don't mind my asking...) glucosamine, omeprazole, temazapam read the medical report from HIS doctors office the week of the fight ,,here: http://media.miamiherald.com/smedia/2012/07/03/15/01/2uxIe.So.56.pdf The link above was a medical history, not a toxicology report (FYI). He has a prescription for two substances that could alter his mind, that is Adderall, which is commonly prescribe to ADHD, and temazepam, which is commonly prescribed for insomnia (most likely caused by adderall). This MAY indicate that the adderall was producing anxiety as it is a powerful stimulant. However, without a toxicology report we can't tell if he was even compliant with his medications. If he was prescribe Adderall, and has a documented diagnosis of ADHD, and no reported side effects, then ADHD is not considered "mind altering". But again, if he had taken temazepam prior to this encounter, it would still render his conceal carry null and void. Side note: if he had taken his temazepam prior to this encounter, and it effected him, i am sure police would have noticed signs (similar to being drunk). Again, my two cents. |
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lol,, ok I just hope you are never in a situation where someone follows you,, (First in a car and then on foot) while you are walking alone at night,,,let alone has the gall to question YOu about your behavior before attempting to grab you,,,, if treyvon had killed Zimmerman, he could have gotten off with self defense too as long as z still got a shot off after all, who WOULDNT fight an armed stalker who had confronted him? then his 'being on top' would be irrelevant, and proving beyond a doubt what initiated the fight would be all about whatever treyvon claimed,,,,, which would align with the evidence of z himself admitting to following him , being heard calling him a fing punk , and being irritated that he might get away, and then having a BULLET HOLE in martin,,, Im sure the evidence could easily back up treyvon when he said he was fighting in 'self defense',,,,, He did have a functioning Cellphone after al! why didn't the grown man and watch 'captain' follow someone at night...? both against neighborhood watch policy and instructed by police not to perhaps the boy didnt think anyone would respond to someone 'following' him as illegal or an emergency,,,,apparently he was right,,,, this so called boy has a has filled with violence and drugs if he would have been charged had the police shown up in time to stop martins attack he would have been on trial as an adult if martain would no have wanted to be confrontational and just went were he was going none of his would have happened zimmerman had more drugs in his system the trayvon... lol,,,so true,, and drugs that have side affects that could make him anxious,,,,,but they were 'legal', so I guess they don't matter,,, If he had any "mind altering" chemicals in his system, legal or not, Zimmerman's conceal carry permit becomes null and void, which would have lost him this case. What are the substances your are speaking of? (If you don't mind my asking...) glucosamine, omeprazole, temazapam read the medical report from HIS doctors office the week of the fight ,,here: http://media.miamiherald.com/smedia/2012/07/03/15/01/2uxIe.So.56.pdf The link above was a medical history, not a toxicology report (FYI). He has a prescription for two substances that could alter his mind, that is Adderall, which is commonly prescribe to ADHD, and temazepam, which is commonly prescribed for insomnia (most likely caused by adderall). This MAY indicate that the adderall was producing anxiety as it is a powerful stimulant. However, without a toxicology report we can't tell if he was even compliant with his medications. If he was prescribe Adderall, and has a documented diagnosis of ADHD, and no reported side effects, then ADHD is not considered "mind altering". But again, if he had taken temazepam prior to this encounter, it would still render his conceal carry null and void. Side note: if he had taken his temazepam prior to this encounter, and it effected him, i am sure police would have noticed signs (similar to being drunk). Again, my two cents. |
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Edited by
Drivinmenutz
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Wed 07/24/13 11:53 AM
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If he'd had an unusual amount of that Hypnotic in him,I doubt the Court would have given him the Gun back,even though Holder is holding up on it,practically confiscated it,for reasons only known to him! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temazepam Temazepam (brand names Restoril - 15 mg/30 mg and Normison, among others) is an intermediate-acting 3-hydroxy hypnotic of the benzodiazepine class of psychoactive drugs. Temazepam is approved for the short-term treatment of insomnia. In addition, temazepam has anxiolytic (anti-anxiety), anticonvulsant, and skeletal muscle relaxant properties.[1][2][3] Pharmacokinetic data Bioavailability 96% Metabolism Hepatic Half-life 8–20 hours Excretion Renal Indeed. Police would LIKELY have noticed if he had taken it prior to the encounter as the person taking it shows signs (if they are affected). And benzo's typically have a short half-life. Hence why it's an H.S. or "before bed" medication. It acts fast, hits hard, and should be mostly out of your system by morning. The unfortunate truth behind that, is the medical history passing him off as alert and oriented means nothing in relation to the night prior (the night of the incident). |
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Edited by
Drivinmenutz
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Wed 07/24/13 11:47 AM
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that's what I thought,and the Report describes him as alert,definitely doesn't describes him as Drunk or Impaired! The report also explains that his wounds had been cleaned. Perhaps this is why he didn't look as roughed up as people expected him to look? |
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that's what I thought,and the Report describes him as alert,definitely doesn't describes him as Drunk or Impaired! The report also explains that his wounds had been cleaned. Perhaps this is why he didn't look as roughed up as people expected him to look? |
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"it has one,, someone got away with hunting down and murdering a child,,, not nearly as heinous but jury was just as capable this week of getting it wrong as they were then,,,," George Zimmerman didn't "hunt down and murder" Treyvon Martin. Have you even been paying attention to the details of Zimmerman's self defense and the testimony tapes? Treyvon Martin was not an innocent little angel in this. He attacked George Zimmerman while he was on his way back to his car to wait for the police and beat him down to the point where George Zimmerman had that reasonable fear of imminent bodily harm or death and shot Treyvon Martin in self defense. Treyvon Martin is not alive to tell his side of the story so you have to go based on George Zimmerman's testimony as well as other witnesses and the evidence which by the way supports George Zimmerman's self defense. People keep trying to paint George Zimmerman as this evil murderer when the facts do not support it. Amen I wonder if Martin were white would the black community even care??? Treyvon jumped him....he had other choices that he did not use. dude jumps me I'll do him some serious harm if I have to in order to save my self - don;t care what color he is...and if he's black and the naacp and the local baptist church go all racist on me...I would have to say w/e - it weren;t ur life on the line - dude's not innocent just cuz he's black and I aint sure as shootin' there's a bucket load of reverse racism in this protest of the trial likewise, if dude follows me around in the dark in his car and THEN ON FOOT< and grabs me,,, Im gonna try to do him harm too until recently it would be my right,, but now,, so long as he is a coward who screams when I fight back, ,he will have the right to kill me,,,, dudes not innocent because he is black, he is innocent because the testimony and evidence don't back up Zs bs story,,,,, George Zimmerman didn't grab Treyvon Martin. Stick to the facts of the case and not wild speculation. Otherwise you will look like a fool. If you have 0 evidence to support a theory then why speculate? I can just as easily try to pass opinions/theories off as facts but that doesn't make them any more true. No one will Know exactly what happened that night other than George Zimmerman. The evidence factually supports George Zimmerman's self defense case. There is little to no evidence to suggest that Treyvon Martin was assaulted. Yet people will continue trying to wrongly claim that George Zimmerman is this evil racist murderer. Get over your hurt feelings people and take a hard look at the facts of the case as well as Florida's laws at the time and understand them. u don't believe he grabbed treyvon,, perhaps you believe this kid came to the neighborhood , went out his way to get rid of a stranger tailing him at night and then after being SUCCESSFUL decided to get in a fight instead but , his phone witness heard him saying get off me, zs own witness saw them tussling UPRIGHT before he saw them horizontal I believe this indicates ZImmerman grabbed him trying to detain him,,as he has grabbed others in impulsive reaction before,,, and the evidence also suggests Zimmerman suffered a whopping fractured nose and two scratche son his head, from this 'thugs' brutal attack,,, but , everyone will take the parts of that trial that they choose to to form their conclusion,,,no skin off my nose,,, Treyvon Martin did decide to confront George Zimmerman. George Zimmerman did not grab Treyvon Martin. There would have been evidence of it. Marks and/or bruising. Treyvon Martin didn't have any marks or injuries on him other than on his knuckles. Where is the evidence that George Zimmerman ever grabbed anyone else? Are you pulling that out of Wonderland as well? As for Rachel Jeantel. (Not sure if it's spelled correctly) She's been caught in lies trying to help the prosecution's case. Therefore voiding her credibility. You mean people like you will take parts of the trial and ignore the rest of the facts and laws to fit your own agenda. there would not be marks left from being grabbed,, why do you assume that?,,,,look up Zimmermans record,,,if you consider that wonderland so be it,,lol what lie was rachel caught in exactly? other than lying about her age to avoid ANY participation in this fiasco? her credibility was no more voided than ZImmermans 'lies' discredited him,, and he had quite a few more of them than that witness did i mean EVERYONE is taking the parts of the trial that fit their perception,,,and leaving out the rest.....the witnesses, the reports, ,,just taking what fits and dis'crediting' the rest, ,,,, but, Zs past behaviors, his mood on the phone, his actions all as the ADULT in this situation, his carrying the gun that caused the death,, all lead in the opinion of many, who were unfortunately no ton the jury, to him being legally accountable for that minors death,,, |
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"So maybe he touched the children. It's Michael Jackson! Michael Jackson!!!" -South Park lol, ur so silly,,, Glad I made someone laugh in this thread. That gag from that South Park episode cracked me up. Especially the way the guy said it. those characters are insane, not my cup of tea,,but I do get the joke,,lol |
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Now, show us, if you can, the court document stating Zimbob was intoxicated. MR Z entered a plea of not guilty by reason of self defense. Show us where, when he was found not guilty, the judge or jury changed the conditions of his plea. Still waiting! show me where the jury found him not guilty 'on the grounds of ,,,' they only found him 'not guilty', no other condition stipulated, regardless of his plea,,, |
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lol,, ok I just hope you are never in a situation where someone follows you,, (First in a car and then on foot) while you are walking alone at night,,,let alone has the gall to question YOu about your behavior before attempting to grab you,,,, if treyvon had killed Zimmerman, he could have gotten off with self defense too as long as z still got a shot off after all, who WOULDNT fight an armed stalker who had confronted him? then his 'being on top' would be irrelevant, and proving beyond a doubt what initiated the fight would be all about whatever treyvon claimed,,,,, which would align with the evidence of z himself admitting to following him , being heard calling him a fing punk , and being irritated that he might get away, and then having a BULLET HOLE in martin,,, Im sure the evidence could easily back up treyvon when he said he was fighting in 'self defense',,,,, He did have a functioning Cellphone after al! why didn't the grown man and watch 'captain' follow someone at night...? both against neighborhood watch policy and instructed by police not to perhaps the boy didnt think anyone would respond to someone 'following' him as illegal or an emergency,,,,apparently he was right,,,, this so called boy has a has filled with violence and drugs if he would have been charged had the police shown up in time to stop martins attack he would have been on trial as an adult if martain would no have wanted to be confrontational and just went were he was going none of his would have happened zimmerman had more drugs in his system the trayvon... lol,,,so true,, and drugs that have side affects that could make him anxious,,,,,but they were 'legal', so I guess they don't matter,,, If he had any "mind altering" chemicals in his system, legal or not, Zimmerman's conceal carry permit becomes null and void, which would have lost him this case. What are the substances your are speaking of? (If you don't mind my asking...) glucosamine, omeprazole, temazapam read the medical report from HIS doctors office the week of the fight ,,here: http://media.miamiherald.com/smedia/2012/07/03/15/01/2uxIe.So.56.pdf The link above was a medical history, not a toxicology report (FYI). He has a prescription for two substances that could alter his mind, that is Adderall, which is commonly prescribe to ADHD, and temazepam, which is commonly prescribed for insomnia (most likely caused by adderall). This MAY indicate that the adderall was producing anxiety as it is a powerful stimulant. However, without a toxicology report we can't tell if he was even compliant with his medications. If he was prescribe Adderall, and has a documented diagnosis of ADHD, and no reported side effects, then ADHD is not considered "mind altering". But again, if he had taken temazepam prior to this encounter, it would still render his conceal carry null and void. Side note: if he had taken his temazepam prior to this encounter, and it effected him, i am sure police would have noticed signs (similar to being drunk). Again, my two cents. like the 'signs' of repeated slamming of the head against a concrete sidewalk,,,??? yeah, doubt they did see any signs,,,, and his criminal classes paid off enough for him to refuse any immediate exam, and they allowed him to walk without a tox lab done,,, so, to his credit, we wont ever have the PROOF of what he had that night or what damage he sufered THAT night beyond the broken nose and the two scratches on his head. |
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like the 'signs' of repeated slamming of the head against a concrete sidewalk,,,??? yeah, doubt they did see any signs,,,, and his criminal classes paid off enough for him to refuse any immediate exam, and they allowed him to walk without a tox lab done,,, so, to his credit, we wont ever have the PROOF of what he had that night or what damage he sufered THAT night beyond the broken nose and the two scratches on his head. Either sign of disorientation would have been documented whether they were from a concussion, which there was no report of, or intoxication. (in theory). That's all i'm saying. Perhaps he had an "in" with the police. Perhaps he knew just what to say and do to get him acquitted. Maybe he WAS intoxicated. Perhaps he had started the confrontation by grabbing Martin. Not saying any of that is impossible, there was just no substantial evidence supporting any of these claims. The majority of the case is base on speculation. (Hence, its controversy.) |
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