Topic: Oh, No, Not Peace!
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Sat 09/28/13 02:00 PM
ll of a sudden, peace has broken out, and the neocons couldn’t be more upset.

Charles Krauthammer of The Washington Post is practically apoplectic.

William Kristol of the Weekly Standard compares President Obama to Neville Chamberlain.

You know when they wheel out their hackneyed Hitler analogies, they’re getting desperate.

And what, exactly, is the problem?

It’s far preferable that the United States and the United Nations have prevailed on Syria to destroy its chemical weapons than for the U.S. to have launched missiles into Syria, which would have widened the civil war there in dangerous directions and strengthened Al Qaeda’s hand.

And it’s far preferable that the United States is talking with Iran about ending any nuclear weapons program instead of scheming with Israel to bomb Iran. A U.S. or Israeli attack would have only delayed such a program by a year or two and would have provoked retaliation by Iran and Hezbollah against Israel and threatened the flow of oil through the Persian Gulf, rattling the world economy.

For too long, the United States has relied on war-making and coup-making to get its way in the world, and under the regime of Bush and Cheney, war was the most overused tool in the shed, while diplomacy rusted.

Obama has now brought diplomacy back, and it’s about time.
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/09/28-6

Only Issue I have with this article is that our whored out media and Obama and Kerry all pulled to go into Syria, it was the universal disgust by just about every American to keep us out of another crappy no win war.

Mortman's photo
Sat 09/28/13 09:19 PM

Only Issue I have with this article is that our whored out media and Obama and Kerry all pulled to go into Syria, it was the universal disgust by just about every American to keep us out of another crappy no win war.

I don't believe President Obama or Secretary Kerry really wanted to go to war, but they had to be ready to in order to compel Syria to quit their chemical weapons. Up until the G20 summit, Syria said they didn't have chemical weapons and didn't use them, but Obama threatens to bomb military targets in Syria, so Russia steps in with a plan to take and control Syria's chems, and now, not only do they have them, Assad agrees to the plan. Crisis averted, and Obama doesn't get us into a war, and all he had to do was send a carrier group in the general direction and rattle the old saber a bit.

metalwing's photo
Sun 09/29/13 02:45 AM
Yes, the brilliance of Obama's actions concerning the Syria crisis was recognized worldwide.whoa

Mortman's photo
Sun 09/29/13 09:00 AM

Yes, the brilliance of Obama's actions concerning the Syria crisis was recognized worldwide.whoa

They probably won't. Russians think Putin did it all by himself (as their state-run media tells them) and the rest of the world will carry on thinking what they do. Probably forget it, soon enough. The important thing is that not a single US bomb dropped and UN inspectors were allowed to do their job, for a change.

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Sun 09/29/13 09:48 AM


Yes, the brilliance of Obama's actions concerning the Syria crisis was recognized worldwide.whoa

They probably won't. Russians think Putin did it all by himself (as their state-run media tells them) and the rest of the world will carry on thinking what they do. Probably forget it, soon enough. The important thing is that not a single US bomb dropped and UN inspectors were allowed to do their job, for a change.
no thanks to Obama and his snarling Doves!laugh

Traumer's photo
Sun 09/29/13 10:06 AM


Yes, the brilliance of Obama's actions concerning the Syria crisis was recognized worldwide.whoa

They probably won't. Russians think Putin did it all by himself (as their state-run media tells them) and the rest of the world will carry on thinking what they do. Probably forget it, soon enough. The important thing is that not a single US bomb dropped and UN inspectors were allowed to do their job, for a change.



Putin did it all or not is totally irrelevant; if anything it was the ability of the Russian Navy that arrived and presented a committed block to US missiles going into a non US controlled country. After all, the Russians are still the only lethal force in the world that could match the US in an all out confrontation. They simply withdrew from trying to publicly dominate the entire planet or even half of it. If anything they realized that it was a price they no longer wished to pay for such a transitory episode in their history. (Perhaps the US will last half as long as Russia and actually learn something about the futility of being the conqueror and enslaver of the world, and if not, no one will miss it when it goes under.)
What I'm delighted in are the events in Syria has led to the developments of what will soon be the full exposure of Iran's nuclear developments which hasn't included any nuclear bombs as the US and it's Zionist ally have claimed to eventually justify an all out attack on another non US dominated country.
I was delighted to hear Iran's President state categorically that the very concept of a nuclear weapon goes against all Islamic teachings and principles. Finally it was stated in public for the world to hear and select on it. No real Muslim would disagree with that concept. Back in the time of the development of the Neutron Bomb, there was talk by the US of 'an Islamic bomb'; a nuclear bomb; I recall that Mohamar Kadahfy laughed at the idea and said Islam would never allow for either type of weapon, Neutron or Nuclear...he (correctly) stated that those ideas are strictly American Christian concepts and weapons. Never met a Muslim that ever disagreed with that assessment...not including that bizarre extremist sect that the Saudis follow; the Wahhabi sect. Members of which you surely recall as the 9/11 Terrorists. Most of the Al Qaeda leadership has been also of that peculiar sect, so I would not be surprised that they would resort to using nuclear weapons. Most Muslims I have known do not regard that sect as 'true' Muslim but regard them as extremists and renegades. The Wahhabis reject both Sufi and Shia teachings of Islam and are basically a threat to all Muslims. I'm not at all surprised that they are allies of the US, if only publicly identified by the Saudi Royal family...by the US press and always hides their connections to terrorism in the Middle East..

Bestinshow's photo
Sun 09/29/13 12:38 PM
So now we need to be honest and fair and just and demand Israel also destroy its chemical and nuclear weapons or appear to be foolish and biased as to who can have them and who cant.

Bestinshow's photo
Mon 09/30/13 01:55 PM

So now we need to be honest and fair and just and demand Israel also destroy its chemical and nuclear weapons or appear to be foolish and biased as to who can have them and who cant.
So what are we a country of integrity or a country full of rubes who do not practice what we preach?

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Mon 09/30/13 02:32 PM

Yes, the brilliance of Obama's actions concerning the Syria crisis was recognized worldwide.whoa


Blame it on Obama...gets Old.