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Topic: How Many Unemployment Extensions
willing2's photo
Thu 05/15/14 02:19 PM
The original unemployment check. Yoohoo! I'm on vacation.

Time passes, job searches supplied and duplicated, knowing they aren't being followed up on.

Years pass and extensions are granted.

How long should one be allowed to float on UI Extensions?

willing2's photo
Thu 05/15/14 02:23 PM
Anyone with any lick of sense will know politicians are self preserving wankers who keep extending. Knowing full well many are refusing to take jobs available.

msharmony's photo
Thu 05/15/14 02:35 PM
I think just as long as a person produces for someone they should be compensated

I think that just as long as someone is seeking to be productive (this includes 'volunteer' positions, and work searching, that are just as much a productive activity as any other) they should have some assistance


willing2's photo
Thu 05/15/14 03:35 PM

I think just as long as a person produces for someone they should be compensated

I think that just as long as someone is seeking to be productive (this includes 'volunteer' positions, and work searching, that are just as much a productive activity as any other) they should have some assistance



Job searches are part of the requirements for UI and extensions.

The rest of your statement has what to do with UI?

Dodo_David's photo
Thu 05/15/14 03:45 PM
There was a time in American history when people were willing and able to pack their belongings and move to wherever the jobs were.

Nowadays, unemployed Americans - as a rule - expect to obtain employment without having to relocate.

msharmony's photo
Thu 05/15/14 04:35 PM


I think just as long as a person produces for someone they should be compensated

I think that just as long as someone is seeking to be productive (this includes 'volunteer' positions, and work searching, that are just as much a productive activity as any other) they should have some assistance



Job searches are part of the requirements for UI and extensions.

The rest of your statement has what to do with UI?



relevance to the original question

How long should one be allowed to float on UI Extensions?


the relevant answer began with 'I think that just as long as,,,,,'


the question was not asked 'what are the requirements for UI .....?

,,,clearer now?



msharmony's photo
Thu 05/15/14 04:39 PM

There was a time in American history when people were willing and able to pack their belongings and move to wherever the jobs were.

Nowadays, unemployed Americans - as a rule - expect to obtain employment without having to relocate.



I really don't think its that simplistic

people weren't nearly as likely to be living only paycheck to paycheck as they are now, and employers had more allegiance to their employees in term of family assistance programs and resources


'picking up and moving' requires breaking a lease or mortgage, it requires first and last rent for the new place, it requires the gas or airfare or whatever to make the transportation, the money to keep up ongoing auto insurance or family groceries,, etc

doing all that for a job that may last a day or a year, is not nearly as feasible as it was for jobs that had more security once upon a time,,,

willing2's photo
Thu 05/15/14 07:56 PM


There was a time in American history when people were willing and able to pack their belongings and move to wherever the jobs were.

Nowadays, unemployed Americans - as a rule - expect to obtain employment without having to relocate.



I really don't think its that simplistic

people weren't nearly as likely to be living only paycheck to paycheck as they are now, and employers had more allegiance to their employees in term of family assistance programs and resources


'picking up and moving' requires breaking a lease or mortgage, it requires first and last rent for the new place, it requires the gas or airfare or whatever to make the transportation, the money to keep up ongoing auto insurance or family groceries,, etc

doing all that for a job that may last a day or a year, is not nearly as feasible as it was for jobs that had more security once upon a time,,,
Alas, more liberal excuses for remaining in the slave zone.

no photo
Thu 05/15/14 08:30 PM

I think just as long as a person produces for someone they should be compensated

I think that just as long as someone is seeking to be productive (this includes 'volunteer' positions, and work searching, that are just as much a productive activity as any other) they should have some assistance




That would be analogous to some man wanting to be a parent having some distorted right to rape as many women as it takes to accomplish a family, with impunity.

Unemployment insurance, another coercive technique to punish those capable of providing substance for another. It is another of those little entitlement endeavors of punishment for something that may happen in the future.

no photo
Thu 05/15/14 08:34 PM

There was a time in American history when people were willing and able to pack their belongings and move to wherever the jobs were.

Nowadays, unemployed Americans - as a rule - expect to obtain employment without having to relocate.


Worse than that, most want employment with having to work. The entitlement, keep the job but send the check. Every entitlement being is of the opinion that someone owes them a job and the government believes that one should be punished for doing so just in case the employer should not maintain the right to provide that job.

no photo
Thu 05/15/14 08:35 PM
Edited by alnewman on Thu 05/15/14 08:45 PM



I think just as long as a person produces for someone they should be compensated

I think that just as long as someone is seeking to be productive (this includes 'volunteer' positions, and work searching, that are just as much a productive activity as any other) they should have some assistance



Job searches are part of the requirements for UI and extensions.

The rest of your statement has what to do with UI?



relevance to the original question

How long should one be allowed to float on UI Extensions?


the relevant answer began with 'I think that just as long as,,,,,'


the question was not asked 'what are the requirements for UI .....?

,,,clearer now?



Absolutely not, just as irrelevant as before, actually now more so. Just what does producing for someone have to do with anything, they're unemployed, you know, not working much less producing.

And just what does "volunteering" have to do with unemployment? Is this a new entitlement scam? Productive, no, theft! This whole problem could be solved with employee contributed unemployment insurance, you pay, you play. For those choosing not to pay, I guess they would be motivated to find a job, any job.

no photo
Thu 05/15/14 08:47 PM


There was a time in American history when people were willing and able to pack their belongings and move to wherever the jobs were.

Nowadays, unemployed Americans - as a rule - expect to obtain employment without having to relocate.



I really don't think its that simplistic

people weren't nearly as likely to be living only paycheck to paycheck as they are now, and employers had more allegiance to their employees in term of family assistance programs and resources


'picking up and moving' requires breaking a lease or mortgage, it requires first and last rent for the new place, it requires the gas or airfare or whatever to make the transportation, the money to keep up ongoing auto insurance or family groceries,, etc

doing all that for a job that may last a day or a year, is not nearly as feasible as it was for jobs that had more security once upon a time,,,


All excuses not to do something, entitlements, lack of responsibility. Someone else should be forced to pay until something better than my freebies are given to me.


no photo
Thu 05/15/14 08:48 PM



There was a time in American history when people were willing and able to pack their belongings and move to wherever the jobs were.

Nowadays, unemployed Americans - as a rule - expect to obtain employment without having to relocate.



I really don't think its that simplistic

people weren't nearly as likely to be living only paycheck to paycheck as they are now, and employers had more allegiance to their employees in term of family assistance programs and resources


'picking up and moving' requires breaking a lease or mortgage, it requires first and last rent for the new place, it requires the gas or airfare or whatever to make the transportation, the money to keep up ongoing auto insurance or family groceries,, etc

doing all that for a job that may last a day or a year, is not nearly as feasible as it was for jobs that had more security once upon a time,,,
Alas, more liberal excuses for remaining in the slave zone.


No, a slave works this would be freeloading, no work.

Chazster's photo
Thu 05/15/14 08:57 PM



There was a time in American history when people were willing and able to pack their belongings and move to wherever the jobs were.

Nowadays, unemployed Americans - as a rule - expect to obtain employment without having to relocate.



I really don't think its that simplistic

people weren't nearly as likely to be living only paycheck to paycheck as they are now, and employers had more allegiance to their employees in term of family assistance programs and resources


'picking up and moving' requires breaking a lease or mortgage, it requires first and last rent for the new place, it requires the gas or airfare or whatever to make the transportation, the money to keep up ongoing auto insurance or family groceries,, etc

doing all that for a job that may last a day or a year, is not nearly as feasible as it was for jobs that had more security once upon a time,,,
Alas, more liberal excuses for remaining in the slave zone.


Yea it is pretty much that simplistic. I didn't have a job so I got one in moved. I ended up not liking that job so I found a new one and moved. Then I ended up getting married but there were no jobs for my wife so I suggested she look in Dallas where I knew there were jobs for both of us. She found one and moved. I found one a few months later and moved.

msharmony's photo
Thu 05/15/14 11:06 PM


I think just as long as a person produces for someone they should be compensated

I think that just as long as someone is seeking to be productive (this includes 'volunteer' positions, and work searching, that are just as much a productive activity as any other) they should have some assistance




That would be analogous to some man wanting to be a parent having some distorted right to rape as many women as it takes to accomplish a family, with impunity.

Unemployment insurance, another coercive technique to punish those capable of providing substance for another. It is another of those little entitlement endeavors of punishment for something that may happen in the future.


maybe the day man will DIE without being able to rape

that analogy will make more sense,,,

msharmony's photo
Thu 05/15/14 11:09 PM




I think just as long as a person produces for someone they should be compensated

I think that just as long as someone is seeking to be productive (this includes 'volunteer' positions, and work searching, that are just as much a productive activity as any other) they should have some assistance



Job searches are part of the requirements for UI and extensions.

The rest of your statement has what to do with UI?



relevance to the original question

How long should one be allowed to float on UI Extensions?


the relevant answer began with 'I think that just as long as,,,,,'


the question was not asked 'what are the requirements for UI .....?

,,,clearer now?



Absolutely not, just as irrelevant as before, actually now more so. Just what does producing for someone have to do with anything, they're unemployed, you know, not working much less producing.

And just what does "volunteering" have to do with unemployment? Is this a new entitlement scam? Productive, no, theft! This whole problem could be solved with employee contributed unemployment insurance, you pay, you play. For those choosing not to pay, I guess they would be motivated to find a job, any job.


so if someone does the EXACT same work for 'free' that someone else gets a paycheck for they aren't just as 'productive'

yeah, ok


more of the classist , you are only worth what society/employers/slaveowners will pay for you nonsense,,

msharmony's photo
Thu 05/15/14 11:11 PM




There was a time in American history when people were willing and able to pack their belongings and move to wherever the jobs were.

Nowadays, unemployed Americans - as a rule - expect to obtain employment without having to relocate.



I really don't think its that simplistic

people weren't nearly as likely to be living only paycheck to paycheck as they are now, and employers had more allegiance to their employees in term of family assistance programs and resources


'picking up and moving' requires breaking a lease or mortgage, it requires first and last rent for the new place, it requires the gas or airfare or whatever to make the transportation, the money to keep up ongoing auto insurance or family groceries,, etc

doing all that for a job that may last a day or a year, is not nearly as feasible as it was for jobs that had more security once upon a time,,,
Alas, more liberal excuses for remaining in the slave zone.


Yea it is pretty much that simplistic. I didn't have a job so I got one in moved. I ended up not liking that job so I found a new one and moved. Then I ended up getting married but there were no jobs for my wife so I suggested she look in Dallas where I knew there were jobs for both of us. She found one and moved. I found one a few months later and moved.


and neither of you would be on the 'welfare' stigma because your time and efforts are TOTALLY Free and not tied to anyone elses needs,, LILKE CHILDREN


yeah, childless adults should be able to rent a room for just themselves and work two separate jobs, if they are able,,,

but those with children don't have the same 'freedom' to only think of what they need and achieve it on their own schedule and terms

msharmony's photo
Thu 05/15/14 11:12 PM




I think just as long as a person produces for someone they should be compensated

I think that just as long as someone is seeking to be productive (this includes 'volunteer' positions, and work searching, that are just as much a productive activity as any other) they should have some assistance



Job searches are part of the requirements for UI and extensions.

The rest of your statement has what to do with UI?



relevance to the original question

How long should one be allowed to float on UI Extensions?


the relevant answer began with 'I think that just as long as,,,,,'


the question was not asked 'what are the requirements for UI .....?

,,,clearer now?



Absolutely not, just as irrelevant as before, actually now more so. Just what does producing for someone have to do with anything, they're unemployed, you know, not working much less producing.

And just what does "volunteering" have to do with unemployment? Is this a new entitlement scam? Productive, no, theft! This whole problem could be solved with employee contributed unemployment insurance, you pay, you play. For those choosing not to pay, I guess they would be motivated to find a job, any job.



lol at the pot ,,,,,never mind

not relevant,,,,laugh laugh laugh laugh


the question was asked about a time frame, an answer was given describing a time frame,, if one cant fathom how the answer is RELEVANT to the question


I guess that would be THEIR problem,,,

willing2's photo
Fri 05/16/14 06:30 AM
My topic is about opinion, not what the rules are.

Excessive UI extensions give folks a sense of false security. Makes them believe, they can just sit back and enjoy the ride as long as they wish.

IMO, after 2 years, the will to sincerely search for a job declines.

Every time extensions comes up for renewal, many of us can smell the fear of those who think that Gubament will pull out the tit.

msharmony's photo
Fri 05/16/14 07:48 AM
IMO,, there is no more a number one can place on the search for gainful employment then there is for determining when one has grown up


though , legally, there is a number for when one is considered grown
and , legally, there is a limit to the number of extension one can apply for



the economy is not an absolute formula, it progresses and recesses, and during recesses there is no time limit for how long it may take for things to get back on track,,,,

more than a time limit, I believe work activity/search requirements make more sense than a predetermined limit on how long people can be in need,,,

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