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Topic: Rebuking Eric Holder
Dodo_David's photo
Thu 07/17/14 06:27 PM
Edited by Dodo_David on Thu 07/17/14 07:10 PM


In an open letter published by the Daily Beast, African-American author Ron Christie rebukes U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder for wrongfully playing the race card.

Here are excerpts:

What you don't understand, Mr. Holder, is that there are many of us who are trying to take our country back - back from a group of politicians who seem intent on our destruction as a pillar of strength and liberty in the world. Many of your fellow citizens are dismayed by your conduct, and our anger has nothing to do with the color of your skin.

You are the first attorney general in the history of the United States to be held in contempt of Congress. This had nothing to do with your skin color, and everything to do with your failure to explain how the United States government provided guns to Mexican drug cartels that were eventually used to kill Border Patrol agent Brian Terry in 2010.


And our outrage here has nothing to do with "racial animus." This is about personal accountability, and your failure to provide us with answers.


Just after you assumed office, Mr. Holder, you said America was a "nation of cowards" on matters of race. What is cowardly is the manner in which you, the president, and other officials of this administration have stoked up the racial animus you claim to deplore. America's first black president was expected to usher in a new era of racial equality. Instead, we have watched the bonds that hold Americans together become more frayed.

We are now more polarized and more divided along racial lines than the day you took office. By recklessly accusing your opponents of racism, you have turned back the clock on race relations in this country. We are all worse off as a result, and weaker as a country.

Your use of the race card to explain away genuine political opposition to President Obama's policies upsets many people, particularly black conservatives like myself.


To summarize, Attorney General Holder and President Obama are being judged by the content of their character, not by the color of their skin, and that judgement is negative.

That judgement does not please people who have placed the Democratic Party on a pedestal, because that judgement contradicts their belief that Democrat politicians are superior to Republican politicians.

So, when a Democrat politician who happens to be black is judged as having a poor character, the race card is played in attempt to defend that politician.

To add to the problem, some Democrats are in denial about the race card's existence and frequent use by Democrats. Such denial is their way of trying to keep the Democratic Party up on that pedestal.

For the record, I am not a Republican, and I have no love for the Republican Party. Republican politicians have made plenty of their own mistakes, but playing the race card in attempt to prevent debate isn't one of them.



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Note: The second image in this post is a mash-up of different images copied from the Internet. The image of the donkey holding a sign is an altered version of an image created by Ron Leishman.

msharmony's photo
Thu 07/17/14 07:31 PM
Edited by msharmony on Thu 07/17/14 07:35 PM
I am always curious how people become so defensive about something as true as the FACT that there is racial animus towards the POTUS

that is not a statement that claims ALL opposition to him is racially based


...comprehension,,


or possibly a matter of " I think race card accusers protest too much'


go figure,,,

no photo
Thu 07/17/14 07:56 PM
well there will always be an "element" that will not like others not of their race, agreed. we can just ignore them.

but there is also serious opposition to the current administration tht has nothing to do with race. it is genuine and should be given serious consideration withOUT tryna insert the race card as a distraction.

quite honestly I did not realize that the President played the race card. my impression is that he has mostly avoided that. If someone does or refers to something maybe once or twice in 6 years, I would not consider it worth worrying about....

msharmony's photo
Thu 07/17/14 08:13 PM
I really place responsibility on media and the laziness of people to research on their own

it has been my consistent finding, when reviewing such media, that the president nor holder have played a 'card' at all, but that when someone (usually an interviewer) has introduced a question about race and they HAVE ANSWERED the question

it becomes construed as them playing a race card,, which is one unfortunate reason honest discussions on race relations will be next to impossible to implement on any large or mainstream scale,,,,

no photo
Thu 07/17/14 08:27 PM
I am not sure why mainstream discussions on race relations are needed.

I have come to the conclusion that those who are tolerant will be so, and those who are less tolerant are probably not going to change, but they will obey the laws (usually) regarding discrimination as far as employment & housing....if that's mainly because they fear the consequences of not doing so, then so be it.

I can't make all people of color love me cuz I am white. I would not want them to love me for THAT reason.

I think we need to get AWAY from mainstream discussions about race and have mainstream discussions about our shared humanity

but then, I was raised in a very diverse community and raised to be pretty much colorblind...60s and all that yanno...lol

Dodo_David's photo
Thu 07/17/14 08:39 PM
Edited by Dodo_David on Thu 07/17/14 08:40 PM


See no race card. Hear no race card. :tongue:

msharmony's photo
Thu 07/17/14 08:58 PM

I am not sure why mainstream discussions on race relations are needed.

I have come to the conclusion that those who are tolerant will be so, and those who are less tolerant are probably not going to change, but they will obey the laws (usually) regarding discrimination as far as employment & housing....if that's mainly because they fear the consequences of not doing so, then so be it.

I can't make all people of color love me cuz I am white. I would not want them to love me for THAT reason.

I think we need to get AWAY from mainstream discussions about race and have mainstream discussions about our shared humanity

but then, I was raised in a very diverse community and raised to be pretty much colorblind...60s and all that yanno...lol



I understand, but when racism is an element that contributes to injustice and inequality and it is as big a part of our history and American culture, I think discussions about it are an important part in continuing to make sure we don't regress backwards,,,

Dodo_David's photo
Thu 07/17/14 09:07 PM
In a recent column of his, African-American columnist Larry Elder asks, "Will Eric Holder Ever Run Out of Race Cards?"

msharmony's photo
Thu 07/17/14 09:19 PM
the race card card is a money maker for pundits like elder

he writes:Attorney General Eric Holder, in a recent interview, reiterates the theme heard from the very beginning of President Barack Obama's administration: opposition to Obama's agenda equals racism. "There's a certain level of vehemence, it seems to me, that's directed at me (and) directed at the president."

notice, there is no mention about the QUESTION the statement was in response to,, as if this is just some out of the blue excuse or point that holder is obsessed with repeating or making,,lol

shame,, elder protests too much too,,,

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 07/18/14 01:38 AM

the race card card is a money maker for pundits like elder

he writes:Attorney General Eric Holder, in a recent interview, reiterates the theme heard from the very beginning of President Barack Obama's administration: opposition to Obama's agenda equals racism. "There's a certain level of vehemence, it seems to me, that's directed at me (and) directed at the president."

notice, there is no mention about the QUESTION the statement was in response to,, as if this is just some out of the blue excuse or point that holder is obsessed with repeating or making,,lol

shame,, elder protests too much too,,,

Holder would be a POS even if he were Blue?laugh

BTW,what about the Millions extorted from Corporations while playing the Race-card by Jackson and Sharpton?laugh

msharmony's photo
Fri 07/18/14 01:46 AM
Im not aware of any extortion, and sharpton and jackson

(although a favorite scapegoat/distraction to repeatedly refer to in racial debate)

are not eric holder

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Fri 07/18/14 06:26 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Fri 07/18/14 06:34 AM

Is it not obvious that this whole admin is so inept and divisive they must resort to their own "racial animus", accusing others of it when their failed policies or political inaction to deal with or simply dismiss/ignore matters of importance are subjected to the light of public or investigative scrutiny?

A lying CIC and his lawless AG.... but we're all racist to complain!

Dodo_David's photo
Fri 07/18/14 10:47 AM
It didn't take long for someone to prove this statement in my OP to be correct:

To add to the problem, some Democrats are in denial about the race card's existence and frequent use by Democrats. Such denial is their way of trying to keep the Democratic Party up on that pedestal.




The Democratic Party is looking wobbly on its pedestal. :tongue:

msharmony's photo
Fri 07/18/14 11:50 AM
and some people have the luxury of screaming 'race card' whenever some unpleasant opinion on race relations is uttered,, particularly by a black person,,


but , I digress

this thread wasnt about 'some people' it was about eric holder, the op is a false perception being that the words spoken were not used as a 'card' but as a direct response to a question regarding race,,,,

Dodo_David's photo
Fri 07/18/14 12:03 PM
An April 20, 2014 commentary by African-American columnist Clarence Page is titled "Why Democrats are playing the race card".

In a January 21, 2014 commentary titled "Obama Plays the Race Card", African-American journalist Jason Riley states the following:

The president is playing the race card to divert attention away from his failed policies and assorted scandals. Economic growth is slow. Job creation is slower. ObamaCare has been a disaster. The administration lied about Benghazi. No one is being held accountable for IRS snooping. And that's the short list.

Mr. Obama's polices aren't working and he's losing the trust of voters. His job-approval numbers reflect this reality. His race is not the issue. To paraphrase the president, he was black before he was re-elected, too.


So, one African-American commentator after another is discussing the race card as it is being played by Democrat politicians.

msharmony's photo
Fri 07/18/14 12:07 PM
and?

lol

african americans make lots of money from establishment/viewership/sponsors by joining the mainstream fervor over alleged 'race cards',,,,


Dodo_David's photo
Fri 07/18/14 05:01 PM
African-Americans make lots of money from establishment/viewership/sponsors by joining the mainstream fervor over alleged 'racism' of Republicans,,,,



metalwing's photo
Sat 07/19/14 01:20 AM
It's a game of percentages. It's called "where there is smoke, there is fire!" In other words, if Democrats scream "racism", where racism does not exist, there is a percentage of the population that will believe it an vote Democratic.

That card is played here a lot. It gets very tiresome.

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Sat 07/19/14 02:11 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 07/19/14 02:33 AM

African-Americans make lots of money from establishment/viewership/sponsors by joining the mainstream fervor over alleged 'racism' of Republicans,,,,





african americans such as? and please dont use the old go to of sharpton or jackson,, they have not been active for decades eXCEPT amongst the black community


to quote someome on another forum


falsely accusing others of playing the race card, in and of itself, is PLAYING THE RACE CARD! Please understand that I am not saying the people of color(dems) never cry ��racism�� falsely. I am only saying that whites(repubs) do it just as often. All of us need to learn to take our fingers off the trigger a little in discussions of race.


this comment is a relevant criticism of the OP


and this is relevant of most of the 'race card' claims I read in these forums,,,


http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/14/opinion/brown-holder-racial-animus-comment/


He said: "There's a certain racial component to this for some people. I don't think this is the thing that is a main driver, but for some, there's a racial animus."

Let's review: He said "I don't think this is the thing that is a main driver," but it is as if when certain whites hear the word race (or a derivative) as the explanation for any part of an event, they go situationally deaf.

msharmony's photo
Sat 07/19/14 02:13 AM

It's a game of percentages. It's called "where there is smoke, there is fire!" In other words, if Democrats scream "racism", where racism does not exist, there is a percentage of the population that will believe it an vote Democratic.

That card is played here a lot. It gets very tiresome.


I think the FAARC card is much more overused and tiresom

Falsely
Accusing
About
Race
Cards


lol

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