Topic: What is the true way and what is the false way
Gregory855's photo
Tue 07/22/14 08:32 PM
In my studies ive disproved every major christian holiday that is celebrated today. Easter is easy, the Bible says Jesus would be in the grave far 3 days, how can you figure 3 days from the time he was killed supposely on friday and the time he rose supposely on sunday.

bastet126's photo
Tue 07/22/14 08:40 PM

In my studies ive disproved every major christian holiday that is celebrated today. Easter is easy, the Bible says Jesus would be in the grave far 3 days, how can you figure 3 days from the time he was killed supposely on friday and the time he rose supposely on sunday.


friday day, saturday day, sunday day, three days. simple math.
why do people have to spend so much time with arguing the true way, the wrong way, the left way, the right way
just let people have their way and work on yourself to be the best person you can be. you'll never convince, disprove all you want. it's a big fat waste of time.

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Wed 07/23/14 06:50 PM
3 days is a total of 72 hours, there is no way there are 72 hours between friday and sunday

CowboyGH's photo
Thu 07/24/14 05:07 AM

3 days is a total of 72 hours, there is no way there are 72 hours between friday and sunday


Friday - 24 hours
Saturday - 24 hours
Sunday - 24 hours


Now add up the hours...

CowboyGH's photo
Thu 07/24/14 05:14 AM

In my studies ive disproved every major christian holiday that is celebrated today. Easter is easy, the Bible says Jesus would be in the grave far 3 days, how can you figure 3 days from the time he was killed supposely on friday and the time he rose supposely on sunday.


There was a guard at Jesus' tomb.

msharmony's photo
Thu 07/24/14 05:23 AM

3 days is a total of 72 hours, there is no way there are 72 hours between friday and sunday



so I wonder why there is nom ention of '72 hours'?

friday, saturday, and sunday are three days on the calendar

but of minimal consequence to the point of how and why he died and was reborn,,,

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Thu 07/24/14 09:37 AM
The Bible says Jesus would be in his tomb for 3 days, which means from the day he died would be 3 days or 72 hours , now if he died at say 2 o clock on a friday afternoon , then 24 hours would be saturday afternoon , 48 hours would be sunday afternoon and 72 hours would be monday afternoon , 3 days , 3 full days is no less than 72 hours

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 07/24/14 10:26 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Thu 07/24/14 10:33 AM

In my studies ive disproved every major christian holiday that is celebrated today. Easter is easy, the Bible says Jesus would be in the grave far 3 days, how can you figure 3 days from the time he was killed supposely on friday and the time he rose supposely on sunday.


doesn't it say:"And on the Third Day He Rose"?

1 Corinthians 15:4


And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

- King James Bible "Authorized Version", Cambridge Edition


sheesh,pretty sad when a "Heathen" has to teach you all the Scriptures!:laughing:

CowboyGH's photo
Thu 07/24/14 11:04 AM

The Bible says Jesus would be in his tomb for 3 days, which means from the day he died would be 3 days or 72 hours , now if he died at say 2 o clock on a friday afternoon , then 24 hours would be saturday afternoon , 48 hours would be sunday afternoon and 72 hours would be monday afternoon , 3 days , 3 full days is no less than 72 hours


Sort of. Nothing ever said Jesus would raise from the grave in 72 hours. It said 3 days. It's not like he was buried at exactly 8pm on Friday so his resurrection happened at specifically 8pm 3 days later.

TBRich's photo
Thu 07/24/14 11:36 AM
Of course Xian holidays have been fudged in order to match up with the older Pagan holidays. However, if you can avoid being pendantic, we read in the Pagan philosopher, Sallustius:

The story of Attis represents an eternal cosmic process, not an isolated event in the past. As the story is intimately related to the ordered universe, we reproduce it ritually to gain order in ourselves. We, like Attis, have fallen from heaven; we die mystically with him and are reborn as infants.

It is not an "isolated event in the past", but points toward the perpetual possibility os spiritual rebirth, here and now.- Frekes


CowboyGH's photo
Thu 07/24/14 11:52 AM

Of course Xian holidays have been fudged in order to match up with the older Pagan holidays. However, if you can avoid being pendantic, we read in the Pagan philosopher, Sallustius:

The story of Attis represents an eternal cosmic process, not an isolated event in the past. As the story is intimately related to the ordered universe, we reproduce it ritually to gain order in ourselves. We, like Attis, have fallen from heaven; we die mystically with him and are reborn as infants.

It is not an "isolated event in the past", but points toward the perpetual possibility os spiritual rebirth, here and now.- Frekes





we die mystically with him and are reborn as infants.


That would mean the worlds population would never change and or that the world's population will always continue to grow in size non-stop. You know what happens when you try to put 3 liters of water in a sealed 2 liter ball?

TBRich's photo
Thu 07/24/14 11:57 AM


Of course Xian holidays have been fudged in order to match up with the older Pagan holidays. However, if you can avoid being pendantic, we read in the Pagan philosopher, Sallustius:

The story of Attis represents an eternal cosmic process, not an isolated event in the past. As the story is intimately related to the ordered universe, we reproduce it ritually to gain order in ourselves. We, like Attis, have fallen from heaven; we die mystically with him and are reborn as infants.

It is not an "isolated event in the past", but points toward the perpetual possibility os spiritual rebirth, here and now.- Frekes





we die mystically with him and are reborn as infants.


That would mean the worlds population would never change and or that the world's population will always continue to grow in size non-stop. You know what happens when you try to put 3 liters of water in a sealed 2 liter ball?


Mystically, not literally

CowboyGH's photo
Thu 07/24/14 12:00 PM
Edited by CowboyGH on Thu 07/24/14 12:04 PM



Of course Xian holidays have been fudged in order to match up with the older Pagan holidays. However, if you can avoid being pendantic, we read in the Pagan philosopher, Sallustius:

The story of Attis represents an eternal cosmic process, not an isolated event in the past. As the story is intimately related to the ordered universe, we reproduce it ritually to gain order in ourselves. We, like Attis, have fallen from heaven; we die mystically with him and are reborn as infants.

It is not an "isolated event in the past", but points toward the perpetual possibility os spiritual rebirth, here and now.- Frekes





we die mystically with him and are reborn as infants.


That would mean the worlds population would never change and or that the world's population will always continue to grow in size non-stop. You know what happens when you try to put 3 liters of water in a sealed 2 liter ball?


Mystically, not literally


Oh ok But not quite the same as Christian baptism. Christian baptism is representing Jesus' burial and resurrection. Thus the dunking in the water, the burial, and being lifted back up, the resurrection.

TBRich's photo
Thu 07/24/14 01:03 PM




Of course Xian holidays have been fudged in order to match up with the older Pagan holidays. However, if you can avoid being pendantic, we read in the Pagan philosopher, Sallustius:

The story of Attis represents an eternal cosmic process, not an isolated event in the past. As the story is intimately related to the ordered universe, we reproduce it ritually to gain order in ourselves. We, like Attis, have fallen from heaven; we die mystically with him and are reborn as infants.

It is not an "isolated event in the past", but points toward the perpetual possibility os spiritual rebirth, here and now.- Frekes





we die mystically with him and are reborn as infants.


That would mean the worlds population would never change and or that the world's population will always continue to grow in size non-stop. You know what happens when you try to put 3 liters of water in a sealed 2 liter ball?


Mystically, not literally


Oh ok But not quite the same as Christian baptism. Christian baptism is representing Jesus' burial and resurrection. Thus the dunking in the water, the burial, and being lifted back up, the resurrection.


As opposed to the baptisms of John?

CowboyGH's photo
Thu 07/24/14 03:28 PM





Of course Xian holidays have been fudged in order to match up with the older Pagan holidays. However, if you can avoid being pendantic, we read in the Pagan philosopher, Sallustius:

The story of Attis represents an eternal cosmic process, not an isolated event in the past. As the story is intimately related to the ordered universe, we reproduce it ritually to gain order in ourselves. We, like Attis, have fallen from heaven; we die mystically with him and are reborn as infants.

It is not an "isolated event in the past", but points toward the perpetual possibility os spiritual rebirth, here and now.- Frekes





we die mystically with him and are reborn as infants.


That would mean the worlds population would never change and or that the world's population will always continue to grow in size non-stop. You know what happens when you try to put 3 liters of water in a sealed 2 liter ball?


Mystically, not literally


Oh ok But not quite the same as Christian baptism. Christian baptism is representing Jesus' burial and resurrection. Thus the dunking in the water, the burial, and being lifted back up, the resurrection.


As opposed to the baptisms of John?


No, not apposed to the baptisms of John.... what's that got to do with anything? Who mentioned John? The baptism in general symbolizes as mentioned, reason behind the baptism in the first place.

TBRich's photo
Thu 07/24/14 06:09 PM






Of course Xian holidays have been fudged in order to match up with the older Pagan holidays. However, if you can avoid being pendantic, we read in the Pagan philosopher, Sallustius:

The story of Attis represents an eternal cosmic process, not an isolated event in the past. As the story is intimately related to the ordered universe, we reproduce it ritually to gain order in ourselves. We, like Attis, have fallen from heaven; we die mystically with him and are reborn as infants.

It is not an "isolated event in the past", but points toward the perpetual possibility os spiritual rebirth, here and now.- Frekes





we die mystically with him and are reborn as infants.


That would mean the worlds population would never change and or that the world's population will always continue to grow in size non-stop. You know what happens when you try to put 3 liters of water in a sealed 2 liter ball?


Mystically, not literally


Oh ok But not quite the same as Christian baptism. Christian baptism is representing Jesus' burial and resurrection. Thus the dunking in the water, the burial, and being lifted back up, the resurrection.


As opposed to the baptisms of John?


No, not apposed to the baptisms of John.... what's that got to do with anything? Who mentioned John? The baptism in general symbolizes as mentioned, reason behind the baptism in the first place.


You mentioned symbolism for events which occurred after John and therefore could not possibly be part of his symbolism. The assumption is then a different kind of baptism

CowboyGH's photo
Thu 07/24/14 07:57 PM







Of course Xian holidays have been fudged in order to match up with the older Pagan holidays. However, if you can avoid being pendantic, we read in the Pagan philosopher, Sallustius:

The story of Attis represents an eternal cosmic process, not an isolated event in the past. As the story is intimately related to the ordered universe, we reproduce it ritually to gain order in ourselves. We, like Attis, have fallen from heaven; we die mystically with him and are reborn as infants.

It is not an "isolated event in the past", but points toward the perpetual possibility os spiritual rebirth, here and now.- Frekes





we die mystically with him and are reborn as infants.


That would mean the worlds population would never change and or that the world's population will always continue to grow in size non-stop. You know what happens when you try to put 3 liters of water in a sealed 2 liter ball?


Mystically, not literally


Oh ok But not quite the same as Christian baptism. Christian baptism is representing Jesus' burial and resurrection. Thus the dunking in the water, the burial, and being lifted back up, the resurrection.


As opposed to the baptisms of John?


No, not apposed to the baptisms of John.... what's that got to do with anything? Who mentioned John? The baptism in general symbolizes as mentioned, reason behind the baptism in the first place.


You mentioned symbolism for events which occurred after John and therefore could not possibly be part of his symbolism. The assumption is then a different kind of baptism


You lost me there... the baptism in the context of the Christian faith is about Jesus' crucifixion and resurrection. Outside of that, I have absolutely no idea what you speak of with symbolism. And I assume nothing. And still haven't the foggiest idea what you ment with the mention of John. You do realize John was present in the New Testament right? He's the one that baptized Jesus. And back to the original point of what the baptism represents and why you'll not find baptism practiced in the old testament. It's about being crucified/buried for your sins and resurrected a new being in Christ. Jesus took our transgressions for our sins already, thus we out of celebration simulate it through as you mention "symbolism" in a baptism.


TBRich's photo
Fri 07/25/14 06:56 PM
At its very core the story of Easter has nothing to do with angelic announcements or empty tombs. It has nothing to do with time periods, whether three days, forty days, or fifty days. It has nothing to do with resuscitated bodies that appear and disappear or that finally exit this world in a heavenly ascension. [Bishop John Shelby Spong, Resurrection: Myth or Reality? (San Fransisco: HarperCollins, 1994), p. 12.]

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Wed 07/30/14 05:49 AM
Yahshua said the only sign he would give was the sign of Jonah he was the Messiah.

He said he would be in the Heart of the earth for 3 days and 3 nights. He also said are their not 12 hours in a day?

noway do you get 3 days and 3 nights from Friday evening to sunday morning. Simple math.

Choose who you follow. It is that simple