Topic: Thousands flee the United States.
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Sat 07/26/14 12:45 AM
Thousands flee the United States. According to the web site EscapingAmerica.org, each year thousands of Americans leave the U.S. for a new home aboard. According to the main contributors of the site, there are many reason for this, including economical issue such as wages continuing to decline. Also crime is on the rise. The cost of health care in the US is a big problem, too. Americans pay more for health care than any other country, yet America ranks only 38th in the world in terms of health care. Lastly, education in the U.S. is extremely expensive. And getting in to a college can be very difficult even if you can afford it. [Name] is a 30 year resident of the U.S.. He moved his family back to Japan due to the cost of health care and education. Health care in Japan is free and the education is extremely high quality. Why should this concern us? He took his high income and his company back to Japan. Meanwhile, America continues to allow many immigrants in to the country, and most are primarily poor. When Americans leave they take their social security, their retirement benefits and IRAs with them. And many times the company jobs.

Education: Each year thousands of students travel abroad for education. Again this is a case of U.S. dollars flowing out of the country. One such student we talked with told us he was not able to get into medical school here, even with a 4.0 GPA and an IQ of 185. But he was able to get student loans totaling $250,000 and he qualified for medical school in the Dominican Republic. That's more money flowing out of the U.S.. More and more Americans now travel abroad for education. Each year thousands of doctors come from India because America cannot educate doctors fast enough for the growing demand of an ailing society. The U.S. allows roughly 70,000 work visas for highly educated foreigners to come and work in the country. These companies insist that they cannot find skilled labor here, and that Americans just do not have the education needed to fill these jobs.

Health Care: Statistics show that for every one person coming to the U.S. for medical care, more than 12 travel outside the U.S. to countries like Thailand that average over 5,000 foreigners each day for medical care. Think about that: 35,000 patients each week travel to Thailand for medical care, while the U.S. averages only about 60,000 foreign patients per year who come for medical treatment. Most of the 60,000 come from poor countries with little or no medical care, while over 700,000 leave to get medical treatment in foreign countries.

Standard of living: The cost of living in many countries is a fraction of the cost needed to live in the U.S.. One expatriate, James, tells us, "Because many counties have such great transportation system there is no need to own a car. This saves me about $750 a month alone, with no need for gas, no car payment and no need for insurance. I can now afford a maid. I can afford a massage several times each week. I eat at restaurants every day. I wasn't able to do any of those things in the U.S.. Medical care is so inexpensive for me now, I can just pay as I go and there is no wait. I can see doctors, same day, without an a appointment."

The Editor of Escaping America states that by the year 2025 there will be more people leaving the U.S. than coming to it.


Conrad_73's photo
Sat 07/26/14 12:59 AM
got a link to that?

Dodo_David's photo
Sat 07/26/14 11:28 AM
Health care in Japan is free ...


Uh, no, it isn't. It is paid for one way or another.

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Sat 07/26/14 11:43 AM
laugh he's not from the US, if he wants to move home that is fine. In fact, those who are not happy with US can well stay elsewhere I guess. Public education in America is free to all citizens and legal residents(and it should only be accessible to those who are here legally}.

University education in a public college is very affordable in most states and the education can be quite good.

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Sat 07/26/14 01:07 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 07/26/14 01:10 PM
global competition is a beyotch

people can travel, and they can look around for the most affordable prices and living,,,,

america can be competitive in some areas and not so competitive in others,, I imagine that wont change,,,

its a factor in border hopping, when you can make the pay in an hour that it takes you a week to make at home and then send it home to where its worth MUCH MORE and buys MUCH MORE,,,,,kind of a no brainer

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Mon 07/28/14 06:12 PM

Health care in Japan is free ...


Uh, no, it isn't. It is paid for one way or another.

I lived in Japan and its not free. If you work full time you pay half and your employer pays half. The fee is based off your salary. At the equivalent of 36k expect to pay at least 200/month. Then you pay 30% copay on everything. If your meds retail for $600/month then you will pay $180. Facilities are much worse too. Expect people to be right outside the sliding door and can hear every word you tell your doctor.

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Tue 07/29/14 04:57 AM
sure love my Swiss Healthcare!laugh

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Tue 07/29/14 08:14 AM


here is something i have been wondering since corp. have become people

if you or i as an american citizen must pay income tax to the u s if
move to another country why is it that corporations do not have to pay
income tax when they move out of the country and still do business here

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Sat 08/02/14 02:00 AM
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One interesting number they missed is the number of men marrying and moving overseas. A recent article regarding international marriage agencies says that they have seen a major shift from men marrying foreign women and bringing them to the USA, and are now moving to the countries where the women reside. Kenneth Agee, Marketing Director of A Foreign Affair - an international dating company that takes groups of men to foreign countries to meet foreign women - says, "More and more men are now moving to her country, where before women wanted to come to the USA. With the standard of living greatly increasing in other countries and the internet making work from any location possible, men are happy to move abroad. Many men now marry foreign women and then retire to her country. In China, where Chinese men will not marry women who make more money than them, hundreds of thousands of extremely rich and beautiful single females are available for courtship. So the old idea that these women are just marrying for a green card is debunked. For the guys moving from the USA to counties like Shanghai and Shenzhen, it is a big move up. These are huge, very modern and upscale cities."

A Foreign Affair (AFA) which helps thousands of men each year find foreign brides a estimates that they will soon see more men leaving to marry aboard and live then bringing them back to the USA.

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Sat 08/02/14 06:02 AM



here is something i have been wondering since corp. have become people

if you or i as an american citizen must pay income tax to the u s if
move to another country why is it that corporations do not have to pay
income tax when they move out of the country and still do business here


Complicated question. Most countries have lower corporate tax rates than the US to entice businesses to come there. If you move to another country it matters how long you are there as to whether or not you pay US income tax.

Some companies have fake "home Offices" like the Cayman Islands to avoid US taxation. The US tax code is so complicated, the ability to find a loophole is endless.

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Sat 08/02/14 07:09 AM
As Bill and his old man Hitlary how those Cayman accounts work.

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Sat 08/02/14 07:29 AM

As Bill and his old man Hitlary how those Cayman accounts work.


Which one? They have several. laugh

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Sat 08/02/14 09:59 PM




here is something i have been wondering since corp. have become people

if you or i as an american citizen must pay income tax to the u s if
move to another country why is it that corporations do not have to pay
income tax when they move out of the country and still do business here


Complicated question. Most countries have lower corporate tax rates than the US to entice businesses to come there. If you move to another country it matters how long you are there as to whether or not you pay US income tax.

Some companies have fake "home Offices" like the Cayman Islands to avoid US taxation. The US tax code is so complicated, the ability to find a loophole is endless.


Ditto! Someone who gets it! In addition, I don't know why anyone would flee the US because in Europe or Asia, it is a mess economically as the US. In fact, no one place is better in this day age globally.